Deadline Day: Bring Out The Transfer Gimp!

homerjay2005 · 29-04-2012 02:47PM

Turtyturd wrote: »

Without disrespecting Everton fans, wouldn't Fulham to Everton be a sideways step for Dempsey, surely if he moves it will be to a bigger club?

everton is a much bigger club than fulham ffs.

CSF · 29-04-2012 02:52PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

everton is a much bigger club than fulham ffs.

So are Leeds, doesn't make them an upwards move.

Turtyturd · 29-04-2012 02:53PM

shadowcomplex wrote: »

That rules Liverpool out too

Well done you *slow clap*. :rolleyes:

Hank Scorpio · 29-04-2012 02:55PM

Seen an interview with Bale saying he can't guarentee his future at Spurs if they miss out on the CL this season, will be interestin to see if himself and Modric hang about if they miss out on it

Turtyturd · 29-04-2012 02:55PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

everton is a much bigger club than fulham ffs.

Read this ffs, same goes for numerous clubs ffs.

CSF wrote: »

So are Leeds, doesn't make them an upwards move.

Adolf Hipster · 29-04-2012 04:25PM

Turtyturd wrote: »

homerjay2005 wrote: »

everton is a much bigger club than fulham ffs.

Read this ffs, same goes for numerous clubs ffs.

CSF wrote: »

So are Leeds, doesn't make them an upwards move.

How about you read homers post ffs?

He never said it was an upwards move ffs, he said everton are a bigger club than fulham ffs.

homerjay2005 · 29-04-2012 04:35PM

G.K. wrote: »

They solve different problems.

I'd say Martinez is better but there's nothing in it really.

Martinez is a super player and IMO, exactly what United need. Defensive minded, but absolutely gifted on the Ball. i dont think however, united would be an attractive proposition for him.

will he and Munian be in the Spanish squad for the euros? I also really like the look of Iteraspe from Bilbao also...he probably would cost alot less than Martinez.

Nuri Sahin · 29-04-2012 05:13PM

Man.UnitedLad wrote: »

I havent seen much of him tbh, how good/potentially good is he?
Should we believe the hype?

Think I've talked about him a few times already in the United thread, amongst the Bundesliga and Liverpool thread. But to answer your Q here..

I've been pulling the Kagawa bandwagon for 2 seasons now from the gambling forum to here in the soccer forum

He's an excellent, very intelligent footballer and is capable of improving even more. He is far more talented than the good but very much overhyped fellow countryman, Honda at CSKA. I rate him very highly if it wasn't already obvious(!) and the reported fees being brandied about is a steal even if he does have a year left on his contract. I've very little doubts he'll be an valuable player for whatever club he does end up, I just hope it's not United. If I'm honest, if I were a United fan I'd be wanting a Martinez, M'Vila, Belhanda, etc instead of him. An attacking midfielder however good he is, is not what is needed going from what I've seen myself and heard of other United supporters.

homerjay2005 · 29-04-2012 06:00PM

-Ade- wrote: »

Think I've talked about him a few times already in the United thread, amongst the Bundesliga and Liverpool thread. But to answer your Q here..

I've been pulling the Kagawa bandwagon for 2 seasons now from the gambling forum to here in the soccer forum He's an excellent, very intelligent footballer and is capable of improving even more. He is far more talented than the good but very much overhyped fellow countryman, Honda at CSKA. I rate him very highly if it wasn't already obvious(!) and the reported fees being brandied about is a steal even if he does have a year left on his contract. I've very little doubts he'll be an valuable player for whatever club he does end up, I just hope it's not United. If I'm honest, if I were a United fan I'd be wanting a Martinez, M'Vila, Belhanda, etc instead of him. An attacking midfielder however good he is, is not what is needed going from what I've seen myself and heard of other United supporters.

a creative midfielder is first priority. look at the difference scholes has made since he came back for instance, before that united were flat and playhing awful football for 5 months apart from 3 or 4 games.

what do you class scholes as, in relation to Kagawa, are they a similar type of player, or completely different?

to be honest, united need somebody like Martinez AND an attacking midfielder. also, why do you say you hope its not united, do you think he is not good enought?

Nuri Sahin · 29-04-2012 06:18PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

a creative midfielder is first priority. look at the difference scholes has made since he came back for instance, before that united were flat and playhing awful football for 5 months apart from 3 or 4 games.

what do you class scholes as, in relation to Kagawa, are they a similar type of player, or completely different?

to be honest, united need somebody like Martinez AND an attacking midfielder. also, why do you say you hope its not united, do you think he is not good enought?

Kagawa is an attacking midfielder or a support striker at a push if you will depending on the formation. Anywhere else played is wasted IMHO. He could probably do a job out on the wings if need be but his influence is there for all to see when he has a free role from the middle, be it drifting out to either wing, coming short to pick up the ball or even playing as a false No.9 at times.

If Kagawa played CM with a defined role that from what I've seen some in the United thread are guessing he might do, watch him be overrun. He's isn't great defensively and at times is quite lazy ie: letting players drift past him without picking up the run or not bothering with a challenge. That's probably my main flaw regarding him.

Scholes is a CM, pure and simple. But, he can play other roles too if need be even despite the age.

As for the last part, I'am a Liverpool supporter too

Nuri Sahin · 29-04-2012 08:29PM

Vieira is at the PSG - Lille game on at the moment, there watching Hazard.

greendom · 29-04-2012 08:48PM

Hazard's price is going up with every game he plays at the moment. After going a goal behind to PSG he scored the equalising penalty and then set up the second to put Lille 2 -1 in front.

EDIT ;Bit of a show off tbh... ;D

http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/eden-hazard-rabona-cross-sets-up-late-nolan-roux-winner-for-lille-v-psg/

Fromthetrees · 29-04-2012 10:50PM

Liverpool only have 20 million to spend on transfers this summer according to ESPN today so that rules out Grant Holt.

Sappy404 · 30-04-2012 07:32AM

Fromthetrees wrote: »

Liverpool only have 20 million to spend on transfers this summer

That might be the case, but FSG are very prudent and will factor in things like the wages that Maxi, Cole, Aquilani and Kuyt etc. are on if sold. They are all high earners so we're not talking pocket money. They'll look at money saved over the course of those contracts and will likely see fit to invest further this summer if it means saving money long-term.

ShaneU · 30-04-2012 12:14PM

Podolski to Arsenal confirmed http://www.fc-koeln.de/news/detailansicht/?tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=4813&cHash=798324b1a22697bd2852832f171c8384

Fromthetrees · 30-04-2012 12:21PM

Sappy404 wrote: »

That might be the case, but FSG are very prudent and will factor in things like the wages that Maxi, Cole, Aquilani and Kuyt etc. are on if sold. They are all high earners so we're not talking pocket money. They'll look at money saved over the course of those contracts and will likely see fit to invest further this summer if it means saving money long-term.

Yeah and I'd assume whatever money they get from selling on any player during the summer can be reinvested, topping up that 20 million.

Oat23 · 30-04-2012 12:43PM

ShaneU wrote: »

Podolski to Arsenal confirmed http://www.fc-koeln.de/news/detailansicht/?tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=4813&cHash=798324b1a22697bd2852832f171c8384

Why would they do this now? They have a huge game at the weekend and I'm sure their fans feel sh*tty enough as it is. Some stupid people working at that club.

pickarooney · 30-04-2012 01:06PM

Any chance of Lucien Favre getting a big name job?

Turtyturd · 30-04-2012 01:08PM

Oatesy23 wrote: »

Why would they do this now? They have a huge game at the weekend and I'm sure their fans feel sh*tty enough as it is. Some stupid people working at that club.

I dunno how the club are doing but would the announcement take some heat of the club itself?

Would have loved the have seen Podolski at Liverpool, best of luck to him filling Van Persies boots.

That_Guy · 30-04-2012 01:08PM

Appparently we've signed a 22 year old called Romain Amilfitano from Remis who are a Ligue 2 outfit.

Have no clue about him at all. Found this video on YouTube though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E57xyXD4qsQ

iregk · 30-04-2012 01:13PM

-Ade- wrote: »

Kagawa is an attacking midfielder or a support striker at a push if you will depending on the formation. Anywhere else played is wasted IMHO.
If Kagawa played CM with a defined role that from what I've seen some in the United thread are guessing he might do, watch him be overrun. He's isn't great defensively and at times is quite lazy ie:

Fully agree with this. Kagawa is a fantastic player but play him in the middle of a flat 4 midfield and he will be destroyed. He doesn't often track runners, he is lazy when your not moving forward and he can't tackle. On the attack his picks up great positions and is brilliant with the ball at his foot. His passing and through balls are top drawer and he also bags some as well. Best played with 2 defensive players in behind him.

Podolski to Arsenal, well I don't see the problem really with Koln announcing it right away as it was pretty much common knowledge for the past couple of weeks. Simply confirming what everybody knew.

Marin to Chelsea. Could be good. I think the price for him is ok. He is crap at times but has great technique and can be sublime in some games. I think what Chelsea are paying for is the potential to do what he can every week as opposed to sporadicly which it is at present. Could be a savage transfer could be a bad one. Either way he can play in wider positions which I think for Chelsea when your options are Salomon Kalou and Flo Malouda can only be good. What I think is strange is who bought him? Di Matteo? Is he taking the job and he signed him?

Oat23 · 30-04-2012 01:21PM

Hamburg will likely announce the signings of Rene Adler (free) and Arjtoms Rudnevs (Lech Poznan - est. €4m) when the supervisory board meets next Tuesday.

pickarooney wrote: »

Any chance of Lucien Favre getting a big name job?

I expected him to take over at Bayern next summer, but with Heynckes leading them to the final he'll probably sign a new contract. Favre might wait it out because there's no point moving from Gladbach to another club in Germany unless it's Bayern.

Go abroad? Doubt it.

Turtyturd wrote: »

I dunno how the club are doing but would the announcement take some heat of the club itself?

They are 3rd from bottom. If Hertha win this weekend and they do not they are auto relegated. They have to win or hope Hertha don't. Best they can do is stay 3rd bottom and go through the relegation playoff.

I just think it is a mental thing. Announcing the Poldi deal seems silly ahead of a big match, everyone knew of course but I wouldn't have done it until after the season. He is hugely important to them and the city. It could effect the teams morale (but that is probably sh*te anyway).

Mitch Connor · 30-04-2012 01:22PM

United are going to be linked with EVERYONE again this summer.

Seemingly Gaitan, Hazard and Kagawa are towards the top of our lists.

We have also been scouting a lot of left backs so movement there seems very likely.

Would like a more defensive minded CM who is good on the ball (Martinez/Sahin) and a creative midfield threat (Hazard/Gaitan/Kagawa) along with a full back.

I expect a goal keeper, a striker and a right winger.

Mitch Connor · 30-04-2012 01:24PM

iregk wrote: »

What I think is strange is who bought him? Di Matteo? Is he taking the job and he signed him?

The club signed him, RDM didn't, imo.

Same with Lukaku, for example. I don't think he was a AVB signing - Chelsea were always after that kid, regardless of who the manager was at the time.

Redzer7 · 30-04-2012 01:34PM

Turtyturd wrote: »

I dunno how the club are doing but would the announcement take some heat of the club itself?

Would have loved the have seen Podolski at Liverpool, best of luck to him filling Van Persies boots.

Why, where's he going?

The Radiator · 30-04-2012 01:35PM

Redzer7 wrote: »

Why, where's he going?

Out of Arsenal

Redzer7 · 30-04-2012 01:38PM

The Radiator wrote: »

Out of Arsenal

Really? Have you got a link to that? Preferably one that has quotes from Van Persie himself saying he's leaving? No, because it's only speculation. He may actually stay.

Turtyturd · 30-04-2012 01:40PM

Redzer7 wrote: »

Why, where's he going?

The Radiator wrote: »

Out of Arsenal

Or back to form and spend most of the season in the physio room.

The Radiator · 30-04-2012 01:40PM

Redzer7 wrote: »

Really? Have you got a link to that? Preferably one that has quotes from Van Persie himself saying he's leaving? No, because it's only speculation. He may actually stay.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2130931/Robin-van-Persie-visits-Barcelona-team-hotel.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2113364/Robin-van-Persie-Manchester-City-prepare-210-000-week-deal-sign-Arsenal-striker.html

Don't answer your own questions, it makes you come across as overly-stubborn

cson · 30-04-2012 01:43PM

Using the Daily Fail as a source...

Deadline Day: Bring Out The Transfer Gimp!

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