Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 (End of March 2012 onwards)

slingerz · 24-04-2012 01:04PM

think its pretty certain that kenny will step aside in the summer. lots of rumours bout a new DOF and manager. I dont think Rafa liked working with a DOF from his time at Valencia, hard to see how his attitude could have changed. Read a certain ITK on another forum saying that there were 'big, big changes ahead in the summer in terms of DOF, manager and player sales/arrivals'

opr · 24-04-2012 01:04PM

Here is what Tim Vickery had to say about him and the article I posted.

Q) In the English media there are suggestions of interest from Liverpool in Jackson Martinez, a Colombian striker who plays for Jaguares in Mexico. Do you think he's got the necessary attributes both as a professional and as a personality to achieve success in the Premier League or elsewhere in Europe?

A) He's an out-and-out goalscorer, a front-to-goal centre-forward who can finish off both feet, and with excellent spring that makes him a threat in the air. Something of a late developer, he burst into life three years ago when he broke scoring records in Colombia with Medellin, and has since carried that form into Mexican football. The Premier League is a step up, though. His touch and general approach play are not great, and the worry would be that he might not build up a head of steam to feel confident about his game.

Jackson Martínez: Goal Scoring Analysis - http://paisleygates.com/?p=7826

Opr

Leiva · 24-04-2012 01:05PM

amiable wrote: »

Sorry, I thought everyone on here could read Spanish:D

I'm fluent .

sa sa sa sa sa scorchio memorabilia

missingtime · 24-04-2012 01:07PM

amiable wrote: »

Sorry, I thought everyone on here could read Spanish:D

Flashback of us listening to some Spanish radio station trying to hear what player "Liberpool" were going to purchase.

24-04-2012 01:11PM

Liverpool Jaguars.....

Leiva · 24-04-2012 01:14PM

sit back grab a coffee and watch our nemesis Kunty Van Wudwork at his best .

fúcking 29 times and counting :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G-qzdd7M9c

Downing x 4

Kelly x 1

Carroll x 3

Adam x 1

Kuyt x 4

Skittles x 2

Suarez x 9

Jordan x 2

Maxi x 1

Agger x 1

Bellamy x 1

total = 29

mike65 · 24-04-2012 01:16PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Liverpool Jaguars.....

Wouldn't be limping along with that name, that or the mocking would be all the greater.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 24-04-2012 01:18PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Liverpool Jaguars.....

Liverpool Atari...?

Jayob10 · 24-04-2012 01:23PM

mike65 wrote: »

google translates

Porto are also apparently interested, and this is always a decent indicator of good south american talent.

24-04-2012 01:27PM

I'd say Carroll has hit the bar alot more then 3 times this season

Crash Bang Wall · 24-04-2012 01:27PM

Jackson Martínez is Liverpool's newest player

“The European club have paid three million $US for the Colombian striker," and now the "Cha-Cha-Cha" will be danced to an English beat.

Various press outlets in Mexico report that Liverpool have already paid Jaguares a sum of money to secure the signing of Jackson Martínez, who will now be competing in the Premier League in England.

One of Mexico's most credible journalists is Jorge Zambrano, who, in an interview with RCN-Antena 2, revealed the fee negotiated with the English club: "Jackson is a player from another part of the world, and so the Liverpool board have already made a downpayment of 3 of the 9 million dollars," he claimed.

With knowledge of the official version of events, the Mexican commentator states that the transfer of the Colombian forward to Liverpool, known in English as "The Reds" and considered one of the most important in Europe, has already been agreed. "Now I can safely say that Jackson is a Liverpool player." ´

However, he is convinced that the Liverpool board will consider offering him the opportunity to play for another Premier League club: "They will quickly loan him out to another club, which is the way they do things in Europe."
Even still, he is sure that this will be Martínez' final season at Jaguares: "Jackon is certain to leave Mexico this summer."

Martínez will become only the second player currently playing in the prestigious English Premier League after Hugo Rodallega who has been playing for Wigan for some years.

a translation from a different forum

Morzadec · 24-04-2012 01:29PM

Leiva wrote: »

sit back grab a coffee and watch our nemesis Kunty Van Wudwork at his best .

fúcking 29 times and counting :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G-qzdd7M9c

Downing x 4

Kelly x 1

Carroll x 3

Adam x 1

Kuyt x 4

Skittles x 2

Suarez x 9

Jordan x 2

Maxi x 1

Agger x 1

Bellamy x 1

total = 29

Really don't want to watch that!

On Jackson Martinez - I actually read that whole post that OPR linked up the other day and watched a Youtube video - he looks decent, like he knows where the goal is, and fairly complete in terms of finishing off his left, right and head. Not sure how good his general play is, but what we're most lacking is a goalscorer, and he looks like someone who will get in the box and finish the chances we've been creating.

I'd be excited about him as a signing, but a little bit disappointed as well because I think nay hope we had of a marquee signing in that position has gone. I don't see us spending big on a centre forward if we're already spending a bit on Martinez. It could also be an indication that our budget is not huge this summer. Maybe about £20m?

I don't know, it's all speculation but I think that's what this potential signing would indicate

Jesus Wept · 24-04-2012 01:40PM

Noticed this post in the Barca v Chelsea match thread and it reminded me of something I was thinking about a few weeks ago when I couldn't sleep and was trying to get a handle on how awful we have been (especially at home considering... it's our home ground).

Seaneh wrote: »

The pitch in the Camp Nou is around the same size as almost every pitch in the ****ing world, I hate people throwing this rubbish about the pitch being bigger in the camp nou, it's 105 × 68 m compared to 103 x 67 in Stamford Bridge,

Pitch Dimensions for major European Stadia.

San Siro: 105m x 68m
Old Trafford: 105 x 68 m
Juventus Stadium: 105 x 68
Allianz Arena: 105m x 68m
Emirates Stadium: 105 × 68m
Landsdown Road: 106 × 68 m
Estadio Santiago Bernabéu: 107 × 72 m

**** it, Estadio Santiago Bernabéu is actually bigger!
Now, please, never repeat this bull**** theory that the camp nou is somehow massive.

I had thought at the time that our pitch was a couple of meters narrower than Old Trafford/some of the clubs above us.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/rules_and_equipment/4200666.stm

BBC wrote:

The length of a pitch must be between 100 yards (90m) and 130 yards (120m) and the width not less than 50 yards (45m) and not more than 100 yards (90m).

Surprised there is that much scope.

Who decided what the optimal size was? Would the bigger teams be better off widening their pitch? Would we?

Should we consider lengthening it?

City = 105 x 68, (7140)
United = 105 x 68, (7140)
Arsenal = 105 × 68, (7140)
Chelsea = 103 x 67 , (6901)
Liverpool = 101 x 68, (6868)
Newcastle = 101.6 66.8m (6789 rounded)
Spuds = 100 * 67 (6700)

Should any of the newly promoted/relegation battling teams consider narrowing their pitch to just 45m, it certainly would be interesting.

tl;dr, we should increase our pitch size and next year will be our year.

24-04-2012 01:57PM

We should narrow it if anything,until we find decent wingers

5starpool · 24-04-2012 02:02PM

Leiva wrote: »

sit back grab a coffee and watch our nemesis Kunty Van Wudwork at his best .

fúcking 29 times and counting :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G-qzdd7M9c

Downing x 4

Kelly x 1

Carroll x 3

Adam x 1

Kuyt x 4

Skittles x 2

Suarez x 9

Jordan x 2

Maxi x 1

Agger x 1

Bellamy x 1

total = 29

That would was from before the West Brom game, and we added 2 more to the total since.

Nuri Sahin · 24-04-2012 02:05PM

Jen Chang seems very cautious about the news of signing this Martinez lad -
http://gyazo.com/dd51102a248b2b8ee7193af0acdc7b89

According to a reliable Portuguese football journo I follow, apparently his agent has been offering him around to clubs in Portugal. edit - Chang even retweeted him there now.

Jesus Wept · 24-04-2012 02:12PM

Leiva wrote: »

sit back grab a coffee and watch our nemesis Kunty Van Wudwork at his best .

fúcking 29 times and counting :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G-qzdd7M9c

For the purposes of their crossbar challenge game, a second crossbar should be inserted 8-10" below the actual crossbar and the aim is to hit it.

mike65 · 24-04-2012 03:06PM

Borrell shrugs a lot and laments the reserves season (hate to see him if they hadn't finished 2nd in the league and third in Europe!). :pac:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op1eAsOllT8

Chucky the tree · 24-04-2012 03:43PM

mike65 wrote: »

Borrell shrugs a lot and laments the reserves season (hate to see him if they hadn't finished 2nd in the league and third in Europe!). :pac:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op1eAsOllT8

Certainly didn't use the kid gloves on N'goo.

D'Agger · 24-04-2012 04:01PM

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Certainly didn't use the kid gloves on N'goo.

Delighted to see that - young kids like Ngoo can score goals like that and assume they're destined for the PL - Rodolfo obviously likes to keep his players firmly planted on the ground and ensure that they are always working to improve.

missingtime · 24-04-2012 04:51PM

Bit of harmless gossip:

Liverpool are poised to make a move for Benfica midfielder Nolito.

Nolito only joined the Portuguese giants last summer from Barcelona, but could be set for a big-money move at the end of the season.
The 25-year-old has signed a contract until 2015, but Portuguese newspaper Record are claiming Benfica would consider offers in the region of £15million and Liverpool appear to be the strong favourites to clinch his signature.
Kenny Dalglish is determined to see his side challenge for a top four place next season and is set to make a number of signings during the summer.

http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/120423/liverpool-lining-swoop-%C2%A315m-rated-benfica-ace-170462

Liverpool are ready to rekindle their interest in Inter striker Luc Castaignos according to Voetbal International.

Reds boss Kenny Dalglish was keen on the Dutchman during the winter transfer window and a loan switch to Anfield was mooted for the former Feyenoord striker.

Castaignos is even believed to have made a secret visit to Merseyside over the winter, in a clear sign of just how seriously a potential move was taken by both sides.

However, doing business with Inter proved difficult and, as Castaignos told Inside Futbol last month, he was keen to continue to learn his trade with the Nerazzurri.

"Even if I am not a starter, I can learn a lot from training every day with world class footballers like [Wesley] Sneijder, [Diego] Milito, [Esteban] Cambiasso and [Javier] Zanetti", said the 19-year-old.

"This is the main reason why last January I turned down every option I had to move on loan to another club."

Liverpool though look set to test Castaignos’ resolve and are preparing to return to Inter with a solid offer for the Dutchman.

Castaignos is thought to be seen at Anfield as a replacement for countryman Dirk Kuyt, who is edging closer towards a summer exit.

But while the player has experience of operating on the flank, as Kuyt has with the Reds despite being signed as a central striker, it is not something Castaignos would welcome.

"I am a striker, nothing else", said the Inter starlet.

Liverpool then could have to reassure Castaignos that his role would be to spearhead the side’s attack, rather than operate out wide.

http://www.insidefutbol.com/2012/04/23/liverpool-ready-to-rekindle-luc-castaignos-interest/61469/

daithijjj · 24-04-2012 05:14PM

Ben Smith ‏ @BenSmithBBC Close
#LFC will play Roma at Fenway Park on July 25 as part of 100 year celebrations. Also play #THFC in Baltimore on July 28.

El Inho · 24-04-2012 05:37PM

Leiva wrote: »

sit back grab a coffee and watch our nemesis Kunty Van Wudwork at his best .

fúcking 29 times and counting :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G-qzdd7M9c

Downing x 4

Kelly x 1

Carroll x 3

Adam x 1

Kuyt x 4

Skittles x 2

Suarez x 9

Jordan x 2

Maxi x 1

Agger x 1

Bellamy x 1

total = 29

why? just...why?

Coates should be up front...cant hit the cross bar to save his life

5starpool · 24-04-2012 05:52PM

daithijjj wrote: »

Ben Smith ‏ @BenSmithBBC Close
#LFC will play Roma at Fenway Park on July 25 as part of 100 year celebrations. Also play #THFC in Baltimore on July 28.

If we don't win the cup then the Spurs game will only be a few days before the first EL qualifier.

retalivity · 24-04-2012 06:08PM

Nolito left barca last summer on a free.
This summer (gossip) we are gonna shell out 15m on him (/gossip).

if i wasnt thinning on top, i'd be pulling it out

Gerty · 24-04-2012 06:12PM

retalivity wrote: »

Nolito left barca last summer on a free.
This summer (gossip) we are gonna shell out 15m on him.

if i wasnt thinning on top, i'd be pulling it out

That seems par for the course.

Now we'll just have to wait another 14 months until he has been labelled a flop and we can't find a team to buy him and we pay his wages while we loan him Inception-style to 2 different teams within one loan and thrown in a dodgy points system to ensure we are fully getting screwed over.

Nuri Sahin · 24-04-2012 06:12PM

Nolito isn't very good.

Kess73 · 24-04-2012 06:17PM

-Ade- wrote: »

Nolito isn't very good.

Certainly no better than any of our current attacking players anyway. Would reckon ( or at least hope) that it is all agent talk that sees him linked with LFC.

5starpool · 24-04-2012 06:55PM

97% of the players we'll be linked with in the next few months will be either wrong or just totally made up, so I'm not getting too excited about anything unless it's being widely reported as on the cards (which could still go wrong, but far more likely to be accurate).

daithijjj · 24-04-2012 06:57PM

5starpool wrote: »

If we don't win the cup then the Spurs game will only be a few days before the first EL qualifier.

Somehow i get the feeling that we will not be putting much emphasis on cup competitions next season. I just have a feeling John Henry will knock heads off each other if there isnt serious moves towards CL places. If Kenny is still the manager i expect some words will be had on priorities. We dont have a squad capable for multi pronged attacks on trophies. We have been in 2 this year and from what i see, half the squad has turned off in the league.

The Europa league means absolutely nothing to me, if Kenny put out this years next gen team in it id be delighted. Having said that, if we spend heavily i might change my mind.

I despise Thurs/Sun football dates.

Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 (End of March 2012 onwards)

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