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Barcelona (0) v Chelsea (1) - Semi Final UCL 2nd Leg, K/O 7:45 PM, Sky Sports 2

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  • #92
    amiable
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    parc wrote: »
    They say it's possible to beat barca in one mach, however it is impossible to beat them over 2 legs. we will see tomorrow, i suppose. that is all

    Who is they?


  • #93
    Blatter
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    parc wrote: »
    They say it's possible to beat barca in one mach, however it is impossible to beat them over 2 legs. we will see tomorrow, i suppose. that is all

    It's been proven wrong already. Inter.

    Also Arsenal were a Bendtner sitter away in injury time from going through last season.


  • #94
    Masked Man
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    parc wrote: »
    They say it's possible to beat barca in one mach, however it is impossible to beat them over 2 legs. we will see tomorrow, i suppose. that is all

    Well tomorrow is just one match.

    Except in this match we're starting with a goal lead.


  • #95
    Neil3030
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    Fair play to drogs. Buys his defence valuable breathers throughout the game. Against Barca he seemed to time his theatrics just right to either disrupt a period of pressure or buy a breather at a time when his team might tire and switch off (e.g. the last 5-10 mins of the first half he was down a couple of times).

    That he does this for his team, in spite of looking like a total plonker, says a lot about how much of a team player he is.

    Like him or hate him, I guarantee you his team all thanked him after the game.


  • #96
    1mcampo1
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    One of the stand-out moments in the 1st leg, for me, was when Busquets was complaining to the ref about Drogba's theatrics

    Busquets...


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  • #97
    Sgt Pepper 64
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    Turtyturd wrote: »
    His tackle on Busquets deserved at least a yellow, possibly red. Plenty of dives where he could have picked another yellow up or at least got another for time wasting.

    Ref's wont book players for rolling around after a tackle, because they have to put the players safety first, in case they are actually injured. And he was caught a few times and did get injured hence he only trained today and missed the arsenal game


  • #98
    parc
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    Blatter wrote: »
    It's been proven wrong already. Inter.

    Also Arsenal were a Bendtner sitter away in injury time from going through last season.

    They have also said that loss was due to the fact that Barca had to travel by bus due to the volcano, and as a result were tired and unsettled. Quite literally, it took a force of nature to stop them. That's not me saying that remember, it's they

    In bold: yeah...but he didn't score it, so Arsenal lost. Just like Barca missed a few sitters against Chelsea and Real and lost


  • #99
    Blatter
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    parc wrote: »
    They have also said that loss was due to the fact that Barca had to travel by bus due to the volcano, and as a result were tired and unsettled. Quite literally, it took a force of nature to stop them. That's not me saying that remember, it's they

    In bold: yeah...but he didn't score it, sooooo...Arsenal lost. Just like Barca missed a few sitters against Chelsea and Real and lost

    Re Bendtner: So what you're essentially saying is that you don't know if it's possible whether or not a centre forward is ever capable of scoring a sitter in the dying moments of the Nou Camp. Ok, I wuld have viewed it as fairly solid evidence myself that Barca could have easily gone out that night.

    In bold: Yeah, but they lost. :pac: And lost in spite of Inter having to play for over an hour with 10 men at the Nou Camp due to a disgraceful refereeing decision.


  • #100
    parc
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    Blatter wrote: »
    Re Bendtner: So what you're essentially saying is that you don't know if it's possible whether or not a centre forward is ever capable of scoring a sitter in the dying moments of the Nou Camp. Ok, I wuld have viewed it as fairly solid evidence myself that Barca could have easily gone out that night.

    In bold: Yeah, but they lost. :pac: And lost in spite of Inter having to play for over an hour with 10 men at the Nou Camp due to a disgraceful refereeing decision.

    Will be interesting to see if there's any soft decisions tomorrow in favour of Barca. I never believed the conspiracy theories floating about, not for one second. I have to say though there have been some awfully unfair decisions, especially the ludicrous sending off of Van Persie last year

    There's been quite a few in the last number of years. Surely there'll be none tomorrow night. Saying that, Drogba should get booked for his antics if he carries on the same. If the ref see it's a dive and he's rolling around, book him and that will be the end of it.

    Also in response to some other posters (forget who) how is Drogba a hero, doing great stuff for his team, all for diving and Ashley young is a villain? Some people's logic is mind-bendingly hilarious sometimes


  • #101
    KeithAFC
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    Drogba is not a problem for Barcelona if they just cut off the supply to him by making sure the ball reaches him as little as possible. That way he can't dive and roll around as no one will be near him.


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  • #102
    Barr
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    Chelsea rested 8 of their players on Saturday.This should really help for tomorrow nite.


  • #103
    Sgt Pepper 64
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Drogba is not a problem for Barcelona if they just cut off the supply to him by making sure the ball reaches him as little as possible. That way he can't dive and roll around as no one will be near him.

    Worked well in the first match!


  • #104
    Blatter
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    parc wrote: »
    Will be interesting to see if there's any soft decisions tomorrow in favour of Barca. I never believed the conspiracy theories floating about, not for one second. I have to say though there have been some awfully unfair decisions, especially the ludicrous sending off of Van Persie last year

    There's been quite a few in the last number of years. Surely there'll be none tomorrow night. Saying that, Drogba should get booked for his antics if he carries on the same. If the ref see it's a dive and he's rolling around, book him and that will be the end of it.

    Also in response to some other posters (forget who) how is Drogba a hero, doing great stuff for his team, all for diving and Ashley young is a villain. Some people's logic is mind-bendingly hilarious sometimes

    I doubt there's a conspiracy, I just think the Nou Camp is a haven for decisions in favour of Barca. They get a ridiculous amount in favour and very, very few against.

    Refs get easily intimated there. The atmosphere is like a cauldron and their players exaggerating injury frequently and viciously surrounding the referee to get players sent off doesn't help either.

    Funny you mention Drogba as he was another victim of a very strange sending off in 2005 at the Nou Camp when Barca were conveniently losing.


  • #105
    KeithAFC
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    Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »
    Worked well in the first match!
    Actually, Drogba did get a decent amount of the ball. On the big Nou Camp pitch, limit it as much as possible.

    Barcelona also need to keep making forward passes. Anything less will just slow the play down. Put Chelsea under constant pressure for 90 minutes and they will crack.


  • #106
    Masked Man
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Actually, Drogba did get a decent amount of the ball. On the big Nou Camp pitch, limit it as much as possible.

    Barcelona also need to keep making forward passes. Anything less will just slow the play down. Put Chelsea under constant pressure for 90 minutes and they will crack.

    Shouldn't make a difference.
    amiable wrote: »
    Stamford Bridge, 110 x 75 yards
    Camp Nou, 115 X 74 yards


  • #107
    Sgt Pepper 64
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Put Chelsea under constant pressure for 90 minutes and they will crack.

    They did! (and we didnt ;))

    Actually I'll be amazed if barca dont score this time, but then I think we will as well from a corner maybe


  • #108
    pistolpetes11
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    Turtyturd wrote: »
    His tackle on Busquets deserved at least a yellow, possibly red. Plenty of dives where he could have picked another yellow up or at least got another for time wasting.

    He did not dive in the game, made the most of contact alright. but there was no diving there was contact everytime he went down.

    Before anyone mentions the Puyol one , when Puyol was running away his back foot(heel) hit the big man in the nut sack.

    So no, there was not plenty of dives he could of gotten a yellow for , but hay dont let the facts get in the way.


  • #109
    Bertser
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    I think we can sneak a goal, Drogba will be key.


  • #110
    KeithAFC
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    Masked Man wrote: »
    Shouldn't make a difference.
    The Nou Camp pitch is surely bigger than the Chelsea pitch?


  • #111
    OctavarIan
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    The Nou Camp pitch is surely bigger than the Chelsea pitch?

    Barely. It will have little to no bearing on the game when compared to the atmosphere and hordes of Barca fans.


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  • #112
    Shanotheslayer
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    I find it crazy that Barca fans expect teams to play the way Barca play against them. Majority of teams that do it lose. It's stupid. I'm a big Barca fan, but I don't complain when a team has 11 men behind the ball, it's great tactics.

    Chelsea will have fúck all possession in the match and will counter attack just like they did in Stamford bridge. Why? Because it's their best chance in getting into the final.

    Do people really expect Ireland to play like Spain in the Euros? Will they fúck, we'll have 11 men behind the ball and counter because if we try pass our way through Spain we'll be hammered. But it's ok when Ireland play like that because we all support them because we're Irish. But if a team does that against Barca, god forbid it's frowned upon.


  • #113
    Seaneh
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Actually, Drogba did get a decent amount of the ball. On the big Nou Camp pitch, limit it as much as possible.

    Barcelona also need to keep making forward passes. Anything less will just slow the play down. Put Chelsea under constant pressure for 90 minutes and they will crack.

    The pitch in the Camp Nou is around the same size as almost every pitch in the ****ing world, I hate people throwing this rubbish about the pitch being bigger in the camp nou, it's 105 × 68 m compared to 103 x 67 in Stamford Bridge,

    Pitch Dimensions for major European Stadia.


    San Siro: 105m x 68m
    Old Trafford: 105 x 68 m
    Juventus Stadium: 105 x 68
    Allianz Arena: 105m x 68m
    Emirates Stadium: 105 × 68m
    Landsdown Road: 106 × 68 m
    Estadio Santiago Bernabéu: 107 × 72 m

    **** it, Estadio Santiago Bernabéu is actually bigger!
    Now, please, never repeat this bull**** theory that the camp nou is somehow massive.


  • #114
    1mcampo1
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    I honestly believe that the main camera angle decives people re: the pitch size


  • #115
    KingdomYid
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    Shanotheslayer wrote: »
    I find it crazy that Barca fans expect teams to play the way Barca play against them. Majority of teams that do it lose. It's stupid. I'm a big Barca fan, but I don't complain when a team has 11 men behind the ball, it's great tactics.

    Chelsea will have fúck all possession in the match and will counter attack just like they did in Stamford bridge. Why? Because it's their best chance in getting into the final.

    Do people really expect Ireland to play like Spain in the Euros? Will they fúck, we'll have 11 men behind the ball and counter because if we try pass our way through Spain we'll be hammered. But it's ok when Ireland play like that because we all support them because we're Irish. But if a team does that against Barca, god forbid it's frowned upon.

    Just to counter that argument, I am guessing that people expect a club owned by a billionaire and that has spent 50million on a forward to actually be able to play a certain brand too. I would not consider Chelsea as 'underdogs' simply because of their financial clout and the funds available to them. But on the brightside it shows money can't buy this philosophy and it all in the player development and coaching. Should be an intrigueing game tomorrow.


  • #116
    Shanotheslayer
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    KingdomYid wrote: »
    Just to counter that argument, I am guessing that people expect a club owned by a billionaire and that has spent 50million on a forward to actually be able to play a certain brand too. I would not consider Chelsea as 'underdogs' simply because of their financial clout and the funds available to them. But on the brightside it shows money can't buy this philosophy and it all in the player development and coaching. Should be an intrigueing game tomorrow.

    My argument was directed at teams in general against Barca, not just Chelsea ;)


  • #117
    Seaneh
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    KingdomYid wrote: »
    Just to counter that argument, I am guessing that people expect a club owned by a billionaire and that has spent 50million on a forward to actually be able to play a certain brand too. I would not consider Chelsea as 'underdogs' simply because of their financial clout and the funds available to them. But on the brightside it shows money can't buy this philosophy and it all in the player development and coaching. Should be an intrigueing game tomorrow.

    When you compare the wage bills, Barca spend a LOT more then Chelsea, they have the highest wage bill of any sports team in the world.


  • #118
    Sgt Pepper 64
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    1mcampo1 wrote: »
    I honestly believe that the main camera angle decives people re: the pitch size

    yes, yes, Barca players are actually quite small, so that makes the pitch seem bigger. The pitch is set wayyyyyy back.

    Its all done with mirrors - smoke and mirrors.


  • #119
    KeithAFC
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    Seaneh wrote: »
    The pitch in the Camp Nou is around the same size as almost every pitch in the ****ing world, I hate people throwing this rubbish about the pitch being bigger in the camp nou, it's 105 × 68 m compared to 103 x 67 in Stamford Bridge,

    Pitch Dimensions for major European Stadia.


    San Siro: 105m x 68m
    Old Trafford: 105 x 68 m
    Juventus Stadium: 105 x 68
    Allianz Arena: 105m x 68m
    Emirates Stadium: 105 × 68m
    Landsdown Road: 106 × 68 m
    Estadio Santiago Bernabéu: 107 × 72 m

    **** it, Estadio Santiago Bernabéu is actually bigger!
    Now, please, never repeat this bull**** theory that the camp nou is somehow massive.
    I don't believe this tells the full story though. People said years ago with the old Wembley it was a massive pitch and was easy to get tired on that pitch, much more so than normal grounds.


  • #120
    Big Pussy Bonpensiero
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    Blatter wrote: »
    There's been quite a few occasions in recent history where Barca have tried their little hearts out but failed to break down a well organised, compact team.
    Go on and give us an example so, and please don't include one-offs in the league.

    Remember Barca scored home and away against Inter and have scored vs Real in every Clásico as far back as 2007 as far as I know.


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  • #121
    Seaneh
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    I don't believe this tells the full story though. People said years ago with the old Wembley it was a massive pitch and was easy to get tired on that pitch, much more so than normal grounds.

    now you are just talking nonsense.


    The old wembley was slightly wider, at 70m, they narrowed it to 68m so that it could be classed as a Category 4 stadium.

    The Bernabeu is actually lined to 105 x 68 despite having the space for an extra 4 x 2 meters because otherwise they would lose their Catefory 4 status.


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