Pregnant women smoking and drinking

SunnyDub1 wrote: »

Whats wrong with having you ears pierced ???

My mam got all our (myself, sisters) ears pierced as babies.. and we're all fine

I think it's a bit crass to have a babys ear pierced at such a young age
I'm not against piercings, but not at that age.

Hard to believe anyone actually defending smoking while pregnant, although for some reason it doesn't suprise me in the slightest unfortunately.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/06/030602023446.htm

Studies also show in-utero alcohol consumption can cause attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), autism and other neurological conditions. Foetal alcohol spectrum disorders (FASDs), which include foetal alcohol syndrome (FAS), alcohol-related birth defects and alcohol-related neurodevelopmental disorder (ARND), are thought to affect about 700 babies born here every year. The disorders can be trans-generational, passing down through one generation after another in some families.
They are the most common cause of preventable intellectual disability, yet they are not notifiable, and there is no clear, official message given to women in Ireland that alcohol during pregnancy can cause these problems.
In a study in Dublin’s Coombe Hospital published in 2006, 82 per cent of women continued drinking while pregnant – almost eight times as many as women in the US, where FASDs are notifiable and drinks carry a warning label.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/health/2011/0830/1224303178492.html

There is an extensive literature showing that fetal nicotine exposure, due to maternal smoking, alters embryonic brain development and results in a variety of pathological effects in the neonate that fall under the heading of the fetal nicotine syndrome. These include a fourfold increased incidence of SIDS, ten's of thousands of cases of tobacco induced abortions, premature deliveries, low birth weight and an increased incidence of attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder. Although the mechanisms involved are not well understood, they are thought to be mediated in part by nicotinic acetylcholine receptors in the fetal brain

http://www.amc.edu/Research/CNN/cnnresearcher.cfm?ID=149

This is a quick excerpt from Bill Cosbys speech at the 50th Anniversary commemoration of the Brown vs Topeka Board of Education Supreme Court Decision, from 2004.

it's worth reading in its entirety.

http://www.eightcitiesmap.com/transcript_bc.htm

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We've got to take the neighborhood back (clapping). We've got to go in there. Just forget telling your child to go to the Peace Corps. It's right around the corner. (laughter) It's standing on the corner. It can't speak English. It doesn't want to speak English. I can't even talk the way these people talk. “Why you ain't where you is go, ra,” I don't know who these people are. And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk (laughter). Then I heard the father talk. This is all in the house. You used to talk a certain way on the corner and you got into the house and switched to English. Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads. You can't land a plane with “why you ain't...” You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth. There is no Bible that has that kind of language. Where did these people get the idea that they're moving ahead on this. Well, they know they're not, they're just hanging out in the same place, five or six generations sitting in the projects when you're just supposed to stay there long enough to get a job and move out.
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The reason I'm quoting it is because I believe that you'll have these knuckleheads who will drink and smoke, and nothing anyone does will make a difference. They have no shame, no moral compass, nothing. Making it illegal will not affect them in any way.

But making it illegal may stop a few from drinking and smoking, but for the vast majority who continue to smoke and drink the law has no reign over them to begin with.

hondasam wrote: »

I smoked while I was pregnant, I have no problem admitting it.

My mother smoked all the way through mine and my brothers pregnancies, we are fine.

hondasam wrote: »

The smoking bit yes I can agree with but to say it's bad parenting is a bit unfair imo..

Bollix it is. The facts are there. If they continue to smoke and drink while pregnant they put their child at risk because they're a selfish twat. That's it.

Then they come back in 7 years wondering why their kid has ADD or ADHD or whatever.

LorraineMcFly wrote: »

I totally disagree with smoking while pregnant its horrible. But I dont want a law enforcing it rather would hope people just would have the cop on not to smoke.

I agree with you but do you also wish people had the 'cop on' not to be overweight or obese while pregnant? Are you aware that the risks are just as bad as smoking?

grindelwald wrote: »

1 in 2 smokers will die of a smoking related illness, but did you know that all smokers and non smokers DIE. Yep its true.

:pac: Handball with a haystack I believe it's called.