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Pregnant women smoking and drinking

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  • #32
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,242 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    I think its one of the most disgusting things in the world to see a pregnant woman smoking, but considering the government already has far too much control on our bodies and especially where pregnancy is concerned , I would never support a law to ban it


  • #33
    ElleEm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭ElleEm


    billybudd wrote: »
    A womans body a womans right, right?

    If it's only affecting the woman, fair enough, but it's not! Everything a pregnant woman puts into their body goes into their baby.

    I have known pregnant women to avoid prawns and pate during pregnancy but still get drunk. Fu*king idiots.


  • #34
    Morag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,450 ✭✭✭Morag


    LorraineMcFly wrote: »
    As its now illegal to smoke indoors in a public place should we also make it illegal for pregnant mothers to smoke and drink alcohol.?
    Going on all the studies suggesting it seriously harms the unborn child.

    Which studies, can you link to them?
    As the latest ones on drinking has said that the occasional drink can infact be good for expectant mothers.

    And if they are to be made illegal what would be the punishment for such crimes?


  • #35
    Tayla
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭Tayla


    LorraineMcFly wrote: »
    As its now illegal to smoke indoors in a public place should we also make it illegal for pregnant mothers to smoke and drink alcohol.?
    Going on all the studies suggesting it seriously harms the unborn child.


    Being overweight while pregnant can cause just as many problems for the baby as smoking but I never hear anyone giving out about that.

    Binge drinking while pregnant should be easy to police (if it's in a public place) if a pregnant woman seems drunk arrest them, the shame should stop most people.

    The thing about binge drinking is that someone could binge drink constantly and have a perfectly fine baby but others might have an odd binge and do terrible damage to the baby.


  • #36
    Seachmall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Tayla wrote: »
    Binge drinking while pregnant should be easy to police (if it's in a public place) if a pregnant woman seems drunk arrest them, the shame should stop most people.

    The stress would also bad for the baby.


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  • #37
    scholar007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 902 ✭✭✭scholar007


    A couple of weeks ago, I saw a wan outside a chipper in Galway (back da wesht) and she looked like she was ready to pop and she was puffing away.

    Yesterday - Saw a munter in a merc with what looked like a twelve year old in the front seat beside her and all the windows closed and yes she was puffing away too.

    Which is worse? Womb or gas chamber?


  • #38
    Abi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    SunnyDub1 wrote: »
    I don't agree with smoking while pregnant, but at the end of the day - it's there body so there choice
    Ah yes, but they're not just choosing to drink or smoke for themselves now, are they? They're smoking and drinking for two.

    Impossible to enforce, but it's irresponsible for a mother that does either or both.


  • #39
    billybudd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭billybudd


    ElleEm wrote: »
    If it's only affecting the woman, fair enough, but it's not! Everything a pregnant woman puts into their body goes into their baby.

    I have known pregnant women to avoid prawns and pate during pregnancy but still get drunk. ****!ng idiots.


    Smoking is an addiction which is very hard for someone to give up regardless of whether they are expecting or not, there is just no rational thought with smoking.

    Dont know why they are banning smoking in places to be honest if its that bad for people shouldnt they ban ciggarettes altogeather?


  • #40
    LorraineMcFly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 135 ✭✭LorraineMcFly


    Sharrow wrote: »
    Which studies, can you link to them?
    As the latest ones on drinking has said that the occasional drink can infact be good for expectant mothers.

    And if they are to be made illegal what would be the punishment for such crimes?
    im going on what the hospital says - prob mad to trust them!
    if you use google loads of studies come up, check yourself and pick one


  • #41
    billybudd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭billybudd


    Abi wrote: »
    Ah yes, but they're not just choosing to drink or smoke for themselves now, are they? They're smoking and drinking for two.

    Impossible to enforce, but it's irresponsible for a mother that does either or both.


    Well seeing as there is no law for abortion and accidents will happen then what choice do they have?


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  • #42
    Seachmall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    LorraineMcFly wrote: »
    im going on what the hospital says - prob mad to trust them!

    They would probably err on the side of caution when it comes to pregnancy and possible threats to the child even if it's not agreed upon by the wider scientific community.

    Not saying it's not.


  • #43
    Tayla
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭Tayla


    Seachmall wrote: »
    The stress would also bad for the baby.

    Fetal alcohol syndrome is apparently the most common preventable form of mental retardation in the western world.

    Something has to change.


  • #44
    Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,377 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Don't mind them smoking as barring low birth weight, the baby tends to recover fully from the negative effects after birth. (There's also an increased risk of miscarriage but that's the mother's business as opposed to society's business imo). What I'm not okay with is mothers drinking through pregnancy and then the child and society have to carry the costs of fetal alcohol syndrome throughout the child's life.


  • #45
    Abi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    billybudd wrote: »
    Abi wrote: »
    Ah yes, but they're not just choosing to drink or smoke for themselves now, are they? They're smoking and drinking for two.

    Impossible to enforce, but it's irresponsible for a mother that does either or both.


    Well seeing as there is no law for abortion and accidents will happen then what choice do they have?
    Don't smoke or drink.


  • #46
    LorraineMcFly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 135 ✭✭LorraineMcFly


    billybudd wrote: »
    Smoking is an addiction which is very hard for someone to give up regardless of whether they are expecting or not, there is just no rational thought with smoking.

    Dont know why they are banning smoking in places to be honest if its that bad for people shouldnt they ban ciggarettes altogeather?
    Disagree i smoked for years and before i got pregnant i decided to give up. just woke up and said thats it not smoking again and havent touched one since. It was extremely easy so i dont believe a pregnant woman cant do it. its purely selfish of them to smoke and be pregnant.
    If its so hard how do the majority of pregnant women quit!


  • #47
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    LorraineMcFly wrote: »
    Well your now told in maternity hospital not to even have one drink, so thats all i can go on. That even one drink can increase the risk of SIDS. Im 5 months pregnant at the moment.

    Bull. No maternity hospital will tell you to abstain 100%, all will advise on the best course of action.

    I asked my consultant about this. I'm not a smoker but do drink. I've been too sick to drink at all but she has told me a small glass of wine once a week has no effect. I'm eight months pregnant so I guess that beats your five.


  • #48
    ElleEm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭ElleEm


    Abi wrote: »
    Don't smoke or drink.


    Well played!!!!!


  • #49
    billybudd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭billybudd


    LorraineMcFly wrote: »
    Disagree i smoked for years and before i got pregnant i decided to give up. just woke up and said thats it not smoking again and havent touched one since. It was extremely easy so i dont believe a pregnant woman cant do it. its purely selfish of them to smoke and be pregnant


    Not everyone is the same.


  • #50
    Morag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,450 ✭✭✭Morag


    LorraineMcFly wrote: »
    im going on what the hospital says - prob mad to trust them!
    if you use google loads of studies come up, check yourself and pick one

    so you can't or won't point to any refernces?

    http://news.discovery.com/human/alcohol-drinking-pregnant-women.html
    Light Drinking Said OK for Pregnant Women
    While binge drinking is still harmful, pregnant women can safely consume small amounts of alcohol.


  • #51
    billybudd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭billybudd


    Abi wrote: »
    Don't smoke or drink.

    :D


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  • #52
    Tayla
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭Tayla


    Abi wrote: »
    Don't smoke or drink.

    Or become pregnant while overweight, or gain large amounts of weight while pregnant, make the correct food choices.


  • #53
    dark crystal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    LorraineMcFly wrote: »
    Disagree i smoked for years and before i got pregnant i decided to give up. just woke up and said thats it not smoking again and havent touched one since. It was extremely easy so i dont believe a pregnant woman cant do it. its purely selfish of them to smoke and be pregnant.
    If its so hard how do the majority of pregnant women quit!

    I quit when I was pregnant, but luckily I found it easy simply because even a sniff of an ashtray or cigarette made me want to wretch!

    Trying to give up smoking is not as easy for many as it was for you. If it was, everyone would do it. It's a notoriously hard drug to kick.


  • #54
    billybudd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭billybudd


    Tayla wrote: »
    Or become pregnant while overweight, or gain large amounts of weight while pregnant, make the correct food choices.

    You forgot breathe


  • #55
    Battered Mars Bar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 672 ✭✭✭Battered Mars Bar


    LorraineMcFly wrote: »
    Disagree i smoked for years and before i got pregnant i decided to give up. just woke up and said thats it not smoking again and havent touched one since. It was extremely easy so i dont believe a pregnant woman cant do it. its purely selfish of them to smoke and be pregnant.
    If its so hard how do the majority of pregnant women quit!

    Exactly. "smoking is addicitive and the hardest thing to give up"...utter rubbish.


  • #56
    foxyboxer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    I'm 'avin a faaaaaaaaaaag!!!


  • #57
    Rabidlamb
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭Rabidlamb


    When my wife had our first child I had to push her out to the smoking area in a wheelchair as the epidural hadn't worn off, bet we looked classy but you don't argue with a women who has just given birth to your child.
    She gave them up about 2 years ago & hasn't looked back since.
    3rd kid now on the way.


  • #58
    LorraineMcFly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 135 ✭✭LorraineMcFly


    lazygal wrote: »
    Bull. No maternity hospital will tell you to abstain 100%, all will advise on the best course of action.

    I asked my consultant about this. I'm not a smoker but do drink. I've been too sick to drink at all but she has told me a small glass of wine once a week has no effect. I'm eight months pregnant so I guess that beats your five.
    I was advised no alcohol is best. but if you do one small glass of wine should be ok. however why wud you even bother having a small glass of wine ? For what purpose? It does cross the placenta you know. so even if its a small amount ur babies getting it.
    and i wasant aware we were in competition , your 8 months good for you


  • #59
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Smoking is an addiction it's impossible to give up just because you get pregnant. One or two cigs a day is not that bad.


  • #60
    [Deleted User]
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    A glass of wine or guinness has always been considered by Obstetricians as perfectly safe, and to a point, good for you. Getting drunk is very different though.

    As for smoking, I think it's disgusting and vile that anyone would do this during pregnancy, but I don't think we should have a law against it.


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  • #61
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Two weeks ago at the bus stop, I saw a mother and the father smoking in the area where their baby was, in a pram. The kid also had an earring, which is ****ed up. Then she pretty much smoked straight into the baby's face when she knelt into the pram, smoke in mouth, breathing her smoke into baby's face.

    Imagine anyone doing that, how ignorant, and how bad a mother would you have to be.


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