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Pregnant women smoking and drinking

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  • #62
    Zulu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    FloatingVoter wrote: »
    Imagine if the mammies of Einstein / Da Vinci / Aristotle had known about this information. Their children wouldn't have been such a letdown.
    You do realise that logic fails at a very basic scrutiny, right?

    For one:
    Aristotle's mum was pregnant prior to Europe discovering America. the Europeans were introduced to tobacco smoking by the native Americans.

    And besides:
    For every "success" story you selectively choose (however incorrectly) throughout history, you are neglecting the hundreds and thousands of children that have survived to suffer because of it, and those miscarriages that didn't.


  • #63
    kfallon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    Abi wrote: »
    Don't smoke or drink.
    Tayla wrote: »
    Or become pregnant while overweight, or gain large amounts of weight while pregnant, make the correct food choices.

    Ladies in the family way, just have a little bet instead. No harm to your health and the adrenalin rush of a winner might be good for junior :pac:


  • #64
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    LorraineMcFly wrote: »
    I was advised no alcohol is best. but if you do one small glass of wine should be ok. however why wud you even bother having a small glass of wine ? For what purpose? It does cross the placenta you know. so even if its a small amount ur babies getting it.
    and i wasant aware we were in competition , your 8 months good for you


    Why did you need to point out you're five months pregnant? Or found it easy to give up smoking? You know not everyone has to be or should be like you?

    You sound like a very judgmental person. I hope your children are a bit more open minded than you.


  • #65
    SunnyDub1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭SunnyDub1


    Abi wrote: »
    Ah yes, but they're not just choosing to drink or smoke for themselves now, are they? They're smoking and drinking for two.

    Impossible to enforce, but it's irresponsible for a mother that does either or both.


    fair point - but Giving up smoking is easier said then done , no matter what the situation is.

    There is other things out there that can harm a baby , not just smoke and drink.


  • #66
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    Two weeks ago at the bus stop, I saw a mother and the father smoking in the area where their baby was, in a pram. The kid also had an earring, which is ****ed up. Then she pretty much smoked straight into the baby's face when she knelt into the pram, smoke in mouth, breathing her smoke into baby's face.

    Imagine anyone doing that, how ignorant, and how bad a mother would you have to be.

    You have decided she is a bad mother, she is probably a great mother.


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  • #67
    Abi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    Tayla wrote: »
    Or become pregnant while overweight, or gain large amounts of weight while pregnant, make the correct food choices.
    Well the thread itself is about drinking and smoking. To be more precise, intoxicating your baby through drink or inhalation if cigarette smoke, whether they like it or not.

    Enough studies have been done on this, so we know it effects the unborn child. An argument against this is a sign of weakness in my book.


  • #68
    Zulu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    hondasam wrote: »
    Smoking is an addiction it's impossible to give up just because you get pregnant.
    Rubbish, people give up all the time. I gave up, and I didn't have the excellent motivation of being pregnant.


  • #69
    billybudd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭billybudd


    SunnyDub1 wrote: »
    fair point - but Giving up smoking is easier said then done , no matter what the situation is.

    There is other things out there that can harm a baby , not just smoke and drink.


    Plus walking baby in prams in the vicinity of things that produce toxic fumes like cars should be banned also, plus living near airports etc.

    we need more greenhouses.


  • #70
    LorraineMcFly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 135 ✭✭LorraineMcFly


    lazygal wrote: »
    Why did you need to point out you're five months pregnant? Or found it easy to give up smoking? You know not everyone has to be or should be like you?

    You sound like a very judgmental person. I hope your children are a bit more open minded than you.
    and you sound very moody and moany i hope your partner isint straying:)


  • #71
    sReq | uTeK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,085 ✭✭✭sReq | uTeK


    SunnyDub1 wrote: »
    I don't agree with smoking while pregnant, but at the end of the day - it's there body so there choice

    Doesn't seem that way with prostitution


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  • #72
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Zulu wrote: »
    Rubbish, people give up all the time. I gave up, and I didn't have the excellent motivation of being pregnant.

    Just because you did you think everyone can?


  • #73
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    LorraineMcFly wrote: »
    and you sound very moody and moany i hope your partner isint straying:)

    Nasty.


  • #74
    Tayla
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭Tayla


    Abi wrote: »
    Well the thread itself is about drinking and smoking. To be more precise, intoxicating your baby through drink or inhalation if cigarette smoke, whether they like it or not.

    Enough studies have been done on this, so we know it effects the unborn child. An argument against this is a sign of weakness in my book.

    I'm not arguing against it, I added another danger to an unborn baby to the list. an overweight mother with bad food habits, there are countless studies done on the dangers of that as well but it's largely ignored because people are in denial.

    It can cause just as many health problems if you are overweight than if you smoke.


  • #75
    SunnyDub1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭SunnyDub1


    LorraineMcFly wrote: »
    Disagree i smoked for years and before i got pregnant i decided to give up. just woke up and said thats it not smoking again and havent touched one since. It was extremely easy so i dont believe a pregnant woman cant do it. its purely selfish of them to smoke and be pregnant.
    If its so hard how do the majority of pregnant women quit!


    Everyone is not like you:confused:


  • #76
    billybudd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭billybudd


    On a side point i look down on expectant mothers who smoke.


  • #77
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    chin_grin wrote: »
    To be fair if the pregnant woman is smoking, the child is f*cked from the get-go.

    That is rubbish.


  • #78
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    hondasam wrote: »
    You have decided she is a bad mother, she is probably a great mother.

    Who smokes into her baby's face and gets its ear pierced... yeah she's probably wonderful all right, proper way to do it alright!


  • #79
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 53,068 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    billybudd wrote: »
    On a side point i look down on expectant mothers who smoke.

    Do you work upstairs in the Rotunda?


  • #80
    Abi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    SunnyDub1 wrote: »
    Abi wrote: »
    Ah yes, but they're not just choosing to drink or smoke for themselves now, are they? They're smoking and drinking for two.

    Impossible to enforce, but it's irresponsible for a mother that does either or both.


    fair point - but Giving up smoking is easier said then done , no matter what the situation is.

    There is other things out there that can harm a baby , not just smoke and drink.
    Again, this thread isn't about other issues around pregnancy, it's about drinking and smoking. While it might be an addiction, a woman who smokes should make a conscience decision to quit before her pregnancy. Deciding to do both is selfish and harmful to the child.


  • #81
    Ellis Dee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭Ellis Dee


    A law like that would be almost as unenforceable as one prohibiting masturbation.:rolleyes::rolleyes:


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  • #82
    Zulu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    hondasam wrote: »
    Just because you did you think everyone can?
    Absolutely. I'm nothing special. If I can do it, you can.


  • #83
    billybudd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭billybudd


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Do you work upstairs in the Rotunda?

    I am just quite tall


  • #84
    KeithM89_old
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    lazygal wrote: »
    Why did you need to point out you're five months pregnant? Or found it easy to give up smoking? You know not everyone has to be or should be like you?

    You sound like a very judgmental person. I hope your children are a bit more open minded than you.
    LorraineMcFly wrote: »
    and you sound very moody and moany i hope your partner isint straying:)

    Mod
    Tone it down a bit.


  • #85
    LorraineMcFly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 135 ✭✭LorraineMcFly


    SunnyDub1 wrote: »
    Everyone is not like you:confused:
    yes but come on if your pregnant and smoking your in the wrong? you must see how disgusting and vile it is to smoke while pregnant. we ban it in workplace and public places and yet we subject unborn babies to it...


  • #86
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    LorraineMcFly wrote: »
    Disagree i smoked for years and before i got pregnant i decided to give up. just woke up and said thats it not smoking again and havent touched one since. It was extremely easy so i dont believe a pregnant woman cant do it. its purely selfish of them to smoke and be pregnant.
    If its so hard how do the majority of pregnant women quit!

    You wanted to give them up and it's great but not everyone is the same.
    Majority of pregnant women have a sly cig everyday and go back on them the minute the baby is born.


  • #87
    Tayla
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭Tayla


    billybudd wrote: »
    On a side point i look down on expectant mothers who smoke.

    Would you look down on an expectant mother who was obese if you saw her stuffing her face at the chipper?


  • #88
    LorraineMcFly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 135 ✭✭LorraineMcFly


    KeithM89 wrote: »
    Mod
    Tone it down a bit.
    agreed , she insulted me first. i apologise for stooping to her level. she isint in her right mind anyway shes 8 months gone, hormones.


  • #89
    Seachmall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Abi wrote:
    Again, this thread isn't about other issues around pregnancy, it's about drinking and smoking. While it might be an addiction, a woman who smokes should make a conscience decision to quit before her pregnancy. Deciding to do both is selfish and harmful to the child.

    But in order for the law to be consistent it would also have to enforce healthy eating for pregnant women (which I'm sure there are plenty of studies on).
    LorraineMcFly wrote: »
    she isint in her right mind anyway shes 8 months gone, hormones.
    Nothing like a cheap shot to get the last word in.

    That's what my mom always said anyway.


  • #90
    Logical Fallacy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    LorraineMcFly wrote: »
    As its now illegal to smoke indoors in a public place should we also make it illegal for pregnant mothers to smoke and drink alcohol.?
    Going on all the studies suggesting it seriously harms the unborn child.

    Great idea. Human history has proven that when you make something illegal then people will stop doing it.

    Warning : Post may contain hints of sarcasm. Do not read if pregnant or lactating.


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  • #91
    LorraineMcFly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 135 ✭✭LorraineMcFly


    hondasam wrote: »
    You wanted to give them up and it's great but not everyone is the same.
    Majority of pregnant women have a sly cig everyday and go back on them the minute the baby is born.
    they do not! none of my friends do this. where do you get that info?


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