Pump action shotguns - Pros & Cons

Longranger · 03-04-2012 11:59PM

TriggerPL wrote: »

Bottom line side by sides , o/u and semi's will get that second shot out faster . The only hunting I enjoyed with my pump was fox shoots . Nothing feels more man ly than pumping and firing but for duck or game where you get one or two ducks in a flight , they just don't make the cut .

If you can't get off two shots at a couple of duck then you shouldn't be using a pump action anyway!

Hibrion · 04-04-2012 12:03AM

There really is no arguing with the effectiveness and reliability of pump actions; especially the mossberg 500. If I didn't have a SxS, I'd have a pump. Having owned a semi auto before and shot a few others, I would never own another. They are too ammo fussy and complicated.

The reason why I don't own a semi, but prefer the SxS, is because we have to limit them to three shots in this country. To get the most out of a pump action (or a semi), I think you need to take advantage of the larger magazine.

If, god forbid, I could have one gun and one gun only, I'd want a Mossberg 500.

garv123 · 04-04-2012 12:04AM

yeah they are so slow to get off a second shot :rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgEUoqNo7S8

also see how he didnt wander all over the place off target.

4200fps · 04-04-2012 12:07AM

Did he shoot anything?

garv123 · 04-04-2012 12:08AM

4200fps wrote: »

Did he shoot anything?

3 ducks, 2 munty and the black panther

Longranger · 04-04-2012 12:12AM

garv123 wrote: »

3 ducks, 2 munty and the black panther

Thanks garv,I just laughed hot soup out my nose!

4200fps · 04-04-2012 12:26AM

Longranger wrote: »

The reason you don't see pumps in competitions here is that most people are too ****ing lazy to cycle the action,.

You said:
The reason you don't see pumps in competitions here is that most people are too ****ing lazy to cycle the action. IT wastes time,harder to hit clay's with pumping the dam things. 2200euro is nothing for a top brand shot gun. You can pay £60,000 if you want for a shotgun. The good old 500 might be worthless on a trade in. You say you would spend the remaining two grand on a nice deer stalking rifle?? That's the price of a half decent second hand car as you said above :eek:

Longranger wrote: »

Thanks garv,I just laughed hot soup out my nose!

It's not your 1st time lol

@Spunk 84 what makes the pump the safest gun????? You never told me. Is it cause you can break it or is it cause its made of some sort of see through material that you can see what in the barrel or chamber?

Spunk84 · 04-04-2012 12:32AM

4200fps wrote: »

You said:
The reason you don't see pumps in competitions here is that most people are too ****ing lazy to cycle the action. IT wastes time,harder to hit clay's with pumping the dam things. 2200euro is nothing for a top brand shot gun. You can pay £60,000 if you want for a shotgun. The good old 500 might be worthless on a trade in. You say you would spend the remaining two grand on a nice deer stalking rifle?? That's the price of a half decent second hand car as you said above :eek:

dare you to stick up a pic your shotgun with boards in the back ground:eek:

Grizzly 45 · 04-04-2012 12:48AM

4200fps wrote: »

Spunk 84 what makes the pump the safest gun????? You never told me. Is it cause you can break it or is it cause its made of some sort of see through material that you can see what in the barrel or chamber?

In case you missed it.

they are as safe as a broken Dbbl if you understand the action and how it works.Most people dont,and thats why there is this irrational fear of these types of guns safty.If the slide is all the way back its jamming the firing mechanism,and with no shell on the lifter,absolutely nothing is going to happen until a shell is put in battery and the slide closed.So with no shell on the lifter you have to conciously double rack the gun to load from the mag.
Ditto with a semi,without a shell anywhere near the chamber and out of battery nothing is going to happen.

4200fps · 04-04-2012 12:51AM

Spunk84 wrote: »

dare you to stick up a pic your shotgun with boards in the back ground:eek:

I will tomorrow. I've great pictures of my gun beside birds just for you spunk84.When i get the lead tomorrow i will upload them tomorrow evening after work. I did mention earlier it was a side by side i own so you will see the ducks beside it and by the way i can put money on it that you will never shoot any ducks as big either or even in your dreams

always pays to think before you speak lad.

garv123 · 04-04-2012 12:51AM

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

In case you missed it.

they are as safe as a broken Dbbl if you understand the action and how it works.Most people dont,and thats why there is this irrational fear of these types of guns safty.If the slide is all the way back its jamming the firing mechanism,and with no shell on the lifter,absolutely nothing is going to happen until a shell is put in battery and the slide closed.So with no shell on the lifter you have to conciously double rack the gun to load from the mag.
Ditto with a semi,without a shell anywhere near the chamber and out of battery nothing is going to happen.

and "IF" it did go go forwards it locks in position and the button behind the trigger or the trigger have to be pressed to allow it to be pumped to load a shell into the chamber. Thats alot of things to happen by accident

4200fps · 04-04-2012 12:53AM

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

In case you missed it.

they are as safe as a broken Dbbl if you understand the action and how it works.Most people dont,and thats why there is this irrational fear of these types of guns safty.If the slide is all the way back its jamming the firing mechanism,and with no shell on the lifter,absolutely nothing is going to happen until a shell is put in battery and the slide closed.So with no shell on the lifter you have to conciously double rack the gun to load from the mag.
Ditto with a semi,without a shell anywhere near the chamber and out of battery nothing is going to happen.

But spunk84 cant answer my question. How is it the safest gun???

Grizzly 45 · 04-04-2012 12:59AM

4200fps wrote: »

always pays to think before you speak lad.

4200fps · 04-04-2012 01:03AM

Its very important to think before you speak. Use the head for thinking and feet for dancing.

Cass · 04-04-2012 01:06AM

Once again i have been forced to edit some posts, and delete others.

As my first warning has been ignored allow me to repeat it.

Stop the personal attacks. End of lads. Infractions will be issued, posts deleted, and if necessary the thread closed if this continues.

No more warnings on this.

Spunk84 · 04-04-2012 01:15AM

4200fps wrote: »

I will tomorrow. I've great pictures of my gun beside birds just for you spunk84.When i get the lead tomorrow i will upload them tomorrow evening after work. I did mention earlier it was a side by side i own so you will see the ducks beside it and by the way i can put money on it that you will never shoot any ducks as big either or even in your dreams always pays to think before you speak lad.

not what i asked

let us see boards in the background of the pic. Just an itch i have LOL

Double Barrel · 04-04-2012 05:01AM

Ah, Yes, Speed.

Well now, granted Pat is a pretty good shot

and a hell of a nice guy :rolleyes: but the gun had to function properly, no hiccups allowed,:cool: but, and oh yes, .... speed..... dam that's fast.;):pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVoehY1ssyM

clivej · 04-04-2012 09:21AM

I had a Mossberg 88 pump and a Beretta 391 both were very good shooters. More than I can say for myself :eek:

Got offered a realy good deal on another Mossberg 88, as new about 500 shells gone through it.

Make my mind up time now :rolleyes:

4200fps · 04-04-2012 10:18AM

Spunk84 wrote: »

not what i asked let us see boards in the background of the pic. Just an itch i have LOL

Boards in the background? what kind of boards? Your making no sense. Why would you want to see timber i take it your talking about???

4200fps · 04-04-2012 10:21AM

Double Barrel wrote: »

Ah, Yes, Speed.
Well now, granted Pat is a pretty good shot and a hell of a nice guy :rolleyes: but the gun had to function properly, no hiccups allowed,:cool: but, and oh yes, .... speed..... dam that's fast.;):pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVoehY1ssyM

That is fast and very fast for a pump action. Still wont beat the extrema 2. It can shoot 12 clays shot in mid air and has faster cycling with no recoil

garv123 · 04-04-2012 01:19PM

good way to compare a gun with a gun triple the price if not more. :rolleyes:

Also id like to watch that video. link ?

4200fps · 04-04-2012 08:24PM

garv123 wrote: »

good way to compare a gun with a gun triple the price if not more. :rolleyes:

Also id like to watch that video. link ?

Here's the link http://youtu.be/_7afW_4DoVA
These Berettas do it out of the box unlike the pump action. You get what you pay for at that price and you get great resale on it and you be lucky to find one of these secondhand ,not like your mosberg 500 that a gun dealer wont take AFAIK. Maybe you might say its expensive but here in Leitrim us guys don't have that sort of recession. There's money in cows

:D:D

Longranger · 04-04-2012 08:29PM

4200fps wrote: »

Here's the link http://youtu.be/_7afW_4DoVA
These Berettas do it out of the box unlike the pump action. You get what you pay for at that price and you get great resale on it and you be lucky to find one of these secondhand ,not like your mosberg 500 that a gun dealer wont take AFAIK. Maybe you might say its expensive but here in Leitrim us guys don't have that sort of recession. There's money in cows :D:D

Really?! Right! Enough talk! I'm going to go and get me some beef!

garv123 · 04-04-2012 08:34PM

he only shot 8 :pac:

rowa · 04-04-2012 08:38PM

I had a pump action when i was serving my apprenticeship years ago , it was all i could afford apart from a baikal single barrel , it was ok but i was glad to be free of it when i bought a double barrel. I can't see the attraction apart from cheapness. I would use a semi though but i'd never have a pump action again.

fodda · 04-04-2012 08:46PM

rowa wrote: »

I had a pump action when i was serving my apprenticeship years ago , it was all i could afford apart from a baikal single barrel ,

Yep and believe it or not you can kill your prey or clay pigeon with a 25.00 euro one of them because rumour has it that it all has to do whether you happen to be close enough and pointing in the right direction.........and nothing to do with how much you spent on your latest toy.

4200fps · 04-04-2012 08:47PM

garv123 wrote: »

he only shot 8 :pac:

12 shots in 1.73 seconds and he fired 50,000 shots and still working 100%.
Here's another good video
http://youtu.be/uk2mFcsa7mw

long range shooter · 04-04-2012 08:54PM

pump action all the way.
semi auto!What a waste of ammo

4200fps · 04-04-2012 09:14PM

long range shooter wrote: »

pump action all the way.
semi auto!What a waste of ammo

You know what your right to hell with the semi. I want one too after watching this. Forward to 2minutes,looks really cool :cool:
http://youtu.be/NJJIYP9B3z8

rowa · 04-04-2012 09:15PM

I've nothing against pumps , but to me personally a double barrel is a much nicer gun to use. I was going to buy a browning (i think it was ) pump action rifle in .22 years ago , it was a tiny little thing with only provision for iron sights , very old , lovely little thing.

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