Yes Kenny Dalglish and Liverpool are done. MOD POST #425 *ALL READ*

We all know the "Net spend" rubbish is just an attempt to deflect attention away from some horrendous transfer dealings but really, how stupid do Liverpool fans believe the wider public are?

They say that it doesn't matter that Carroll cost €35 million, because they got €50 million for Torres. They got €15 million profit so its ok. :rolleyes: Even a child can spot the flaw in that argument, ie: paying less for Carroll would have resulted in even MOAR profit!!!

"But no", they cry, "we told Chelsea they had to pay €15 million more than we paid for Carroll, so we were always only going to get €15 million".

What a crock'o'****e. What muppet works a transfer like that? You mean to say Abramovich demanded to see the deal sheet for Carroll before he signed off on Torres? Bollox. If Abramovich was prepared to go to €50 million then Liverpool should have been able to negotiate that fee independently to the Carroll transfer. If they couldnt then their staff should all be dumped as the idiots they clearly are.

Carroll should have been signed for circa €15 million, AND Torres sold for €50 million. That would have been good business. What actually happened was inept business, and later transfers continued that ineptness. No amount of blathering about "net spend" can hide that.

bucketybuck wrote: »

We all know the "Net spend" rubbish is just an attempt to deflect attention away from some horrendous transfer dealings but really, how stupid do Liverpool fans believe the wider public are?

They say that it doesn't matter that Carroll cost €35 million, because they got €50 million for Torres. They got €15 million profit so its ok. :rolleyes: Even a child can spot the flaw in that argument, ie: paying less for Carroll would have resulted in even MOAR profit!!!

"But no", they cry, "we told Chelsea they had to pay €15 million more than we paid for Carroll, so we were always only going to get €15 million".

What a crock'o'****e. What muppet works a transfer like that? You mean to say Abramovich demanded to see the deal sheet for Carroll before he signed off on Torres? Bollox. If Abramovich was prepared to go to €50 million then Liverpool should have been able to negotiate that fee independently to the Carroll transfer. If they couldnt then their staff should all be dumped as the idiots they clearly are.

Carroll should have been signed for circa €15 million, AND Torres sold for €50 million. That would have been good business. What actually happened was inept business, and later transfers continued that ineptness. No amount of blathering about "net spend" can hide that.

We're deflecting attention again lads. Wahey. Did you call us deluded?? I can't see that anywhere. You seem to have forgotten to call us deluded!!

oh and before anyone says do i think kenny is going to do what ferguson did. No I dont think that because i'm sure thats all some will take from what i said

What £100 million and tactics that are positively stonehenge get you.



Dalglish clearly isn't up for the job,outdated tactics,poor transfers and the debacle that was the whole Suarez incident.I'd say he'll leave at the end of the season but as a United fan,I hope he stays.

zerks wrote: »

What £100 million and tactics

Dalglish clearly isn't up for the job,outdated tactics,poor transfers and the debacle that was the whole Suarez incident.I'd say he'll leave at the end of the season but as a United fan,I hope he stays.

I've no doubt dalglish will be sacked, i say this because I've actually never seen a manager be treated the way gerard treated him last week, no respect but why should gerard respect him when he turned the club into a mediocre laughing stock.

mike65 wrote: »

Manchester City: £430.77 million and they still won't win the league this year. Wonder will we have a "Are Roberto Mancinci and Manchester City Done" thread in May?

I already started that! In March!

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056587539

zerks wrote: »

Just watching a roundup of the 96/97 season atm on Sky,Roy Evans was in charge of Liverpool then & they were 5 points clear at Xmas and played some decent stuff.Just shows how much they have regressed and are now on a par with any midtable side who just raise their game for the big boys ala United,Chelsea etc.

They were top of the table at Christmas 3 years ago as well and one of the best teams in Europe. I don't know why your going back 16 years.

No winding up or trolling intended,it's just that I was watching the show & Liverpool were challenging for the title and everything seemed rosy.3 years ago was just an anomoly,I think even the most die hard fan will admit that it was a false dawn.A league title challenge is even further away than ever now.

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

All it takes is cash! Look at City and Chelsea
Huge injection of money and suddenly........

Although judging by the reaction to the 2 teams in question, it seems most pool fans would turn it down

If there's a huge injection of cash it should go towards a new stadium or redeveloping Anfield and the immediate surrounding area, but there's too much red tape holding things up for the latter option it would seem.

Father Damo wrote: »

What I still cant fathom about the "he needs time" brigade is that Hodgson, who remains one of the best managers in the league, was a target for the boo boys from about a month into the job. How in the name of god did he not deserve time, yet Dalglish does? Anyone with half a brain surely could see from the second he got the job that this would not work out (I had no doubt he would fail to succeed, although I had truly no idea of how Steve Staunton like the whole thing would become). Maybe it was from being an Ireland fan that I had more of an idea of how and why this was to be bad, as we know all too well the folly of appointing poorly qualified people based on sentimentality and old boys clubness.

Come on not this chest nut again!! why did we sack Woy and not want to sack Kenny!!

Well did Woy win us our first trophy in 6 years? did he get us to the semi's of an FA cup? did he show any signs at all of improving Liverpool and getting them to play well?

Yes in Kenny's time there have been some very high price signings for mediocre players (which were more than likely more down to Camoli)
And he has had a disastrous run of about 7 league games, but up until then we weren't doing too bad.
At least under Kenny we have shown signs of some decent football and that has been shown in our cup runs, under Woy there was just no signs of anything happening except us going backwards

cambo2008 wrote: »

Not the best angle to approach that argument at seeing as he was sacked in January,before all cup finals.

I'm not saying he should have been kept on before ye get the pitchforks out.

Well, the mighty Northampton had already scuppered his interest in one of them anyway...

firemansam4 wrote: »

Come on not this chest nut again!! why did we sack Woy and not want to sack Kenny!!

Well did Woy win us our first trophy in 6 years? did he get us to the semi's of an FA cup? did he show any signs at all of improving Liverpool and getting them to play well?

Yes in Kenny's time there have been some very high price signings for mediocre players (which were more than likely more down to Camoli)
And he has had a disastrous run of about 7 league games, but up until then we weren't doing too bad.
At least under Kenny we have shown signs of some decent football and that has been shown in our cup runs, under Woy there was just no signs of anything happening except us going backwards

Roy got you far in europe though didnt he? Then Kenny got you knocked out

This is funny\ironic though:
Youve got europa league at least, but a poor "finish" to the season is costing you

Kenny Dalglish blames Liverpool's failure to qualify for Europa League on poor start to season



Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish believes the club were lucky to finish sixth in the Premier League table after their abysmal start to the campaign.

Aston Villa's 1-0 victory on Sunday helped condemn the Anfield outfit to their first season without European football since the 1999/2000 season. The damage was largely done under previous boss Roy Hodgson after he gained just 25 points in 21 games until Dalglish took over the reins in mid-January.
Speaking to reporters after the match, the Scot bemoaned the poor state of the club when he took over and admitted that a season without European football would take some getting used to.
"It's always nice for everybody to be involved in Europe, isn't it? Whether it is going to be helpful or not to be out of it remains to be seen," Dalglish stated.
"It is a long time since this club wasn't involved in Europe. "It is new ground for everybody. We just need to get on with it and accept that we aren't.
"We didn't qualify for Europe because we lost the game today it was because we had a bad start to the season.
"If you start as badly as that then you're lucky to be sixth come the end of it."
Liverpool's disappointing season ensured that no Champions League or Europa League football will be on offer to prospective signings this summer. Despite the setback, Dalglish was convinced the club remained a big enough draw and was confident if any player didn't want to come it'd be "their loss not ours."
"There are a lot more players who don't play in the Champions League than do and I think Liverpool football club is a big enough attraction to players," he added.
"If we want to bring someone in, I'm sure the club is a big enough attraction. Anyone we do bring in will have to be a lot better than what we have here and that is only the chosen few.
"We'll be select with what we choose to do, and if they don't want to come, it's their loss not ours."

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/05/22/2498208/kenny-dalglish-blames-liverpools-failure-to-qualify-for