Door to door religion peddlers

angry kitten wrote: »

Bigotry? Did you get out of bed on the self righteous twaddle side of the bed this morning? I'm expressing an opinion, I have that right and not wanting religion brought to my home by a stranger or anyone else for that matter, does not make me a bigot.

You got two well hung black lads at the door on international womens' day, I think you should be grateful. Just saying.

angry kitten wrote: »

I've just had 2 black gentlemen at my door trying to sell me religion. Now I've got nothing against religion although I'm not religious. But it bugs me that I have foreigners of any race, colour or creed calling to my home trying to save me or whatever it is they want. I didn't answer the door but I could hear them at the next door neighbours. Ireland exported Christianity, I really don't think we need it sold back to us.

jesus christ just shoot the f*ckers

Dingdong!
....blah blah spiel ...
calls upstairs/down hallway as appropriate: "Satan darling, it's for you ..."
"He'll be with you in a minute"

Ellis Dee wrote: »

Now you are perhaps beginning to understand how the Africans felt when white people turned up with a Bible in one hand and a shovel in the other (the shovel was to dig out the gold and other valuable resources while the natives were distracted by the book of fairy tales and looking up at the sky to try and see that place the missionaries were talking about). :rolleyes:

Does it not bug you also when Irish people turn up on your doorstep trying to sell you some kind of juju?

Ireland didn't export Christianity, which originated in the Middle East. We actually imported it, which was a major mistake, although we later started exporting its derivatives.:(

Incidentally, I had a visit from a couple of Jehovah's Witness women last week, first time for years that any purveyors of religion have come near me. I just told them I was originally from Ireland and had gotten quite enough of religion there, and they politely left without trying to argue. One of them was a bit of all right as well, but the other a right old boot.:eek:

If you poured some whiskey for them, threw some sherbet on the table and asked them to do a line, and whipped your lad out they'd be gone, and because it's not public, it wouldn't be a crime (I don't think anyway, but don't quote me on that to the Gardaí)

angry kitten wrote: »

I've just had 2 black gentlemen at my door trying to sell me religion. Now I've got nothing against religion although I'm not religious. But it bugs me that I have foreigners of any race, colour or creed calling to my home trying to save me or whatever it is they want. I didn't answer the door but I could hear them at the next door neighbours. Ireland exported Christianity, I really don't think we need it sold back to us.

It always amuses me, the declaration of a non-racist standpoint, whilst at the same time pointing out that the colour of skin and in the same sentence mentioning the word 'foreigner'. Indeed, I recall the first time I ever encountered a Sikh who spoke with a deep Glaswegian accent. The image and the voice were so alien to my presumptions that it left me speechless and led me to question my arrogant pre-supposition that I was not racist.

Now, there are 2 points here:

1. Ireland did not in my view export 'Christianity', but attempt the 'propagation of the faith' i.e. spread what they themselves had learned from foreigners and in my view, Ireland, Catholic, or otherwise is hardly in the position absolute knowing authority when it comes down to the finer points of the Christian faith (of which there are many flavours).

2. Foreign, or Not, those people peddling religion are in their view missionaries, of which there are still an awful lot if Irish in the further reaches of the world.
Thus the indignation of being 'sold' Christianity, I find quite amusingly conceited.

As for not needing Christianity to be sold back to 'us', it's horses for courses, no ? Church attendance is in an un-merciful decline. Should that be your flavour, I would suggest that it does need to be sold back, and quick...

Anecdotally, as a boy, I witnessed how my uncle dealt with two Jehovah's witnesses who called.
He invited them in. Let them have their spiel, offered them tea etc and when they had finished their exceptionally pious and rather patronising monologue, one of them proudly announced "Of course, I've just finished a 6 week bible study course".
"Really ?" Uncle replied. "I'm a priest of 30+ years and a professor of Theology...".

angry kitten wrote: »

I recounted a story of 2 black gentlemen, whom I assume are foreigners, calling to my home to try to convert me to their religion. To me the fact that they are black is nothing more than a part of the story. I am not biased against their religion, I don't even know what their religion is. I would find it arrogant of anyone calling to people's homes to convert them. I just think that it is particularly arrogant to move to a country or visit it, and feel that you have the right to try to convert people.
If people disagree with my opinion that fine, but it is childish to assume that everybody who mentions somebody's colour or religion is either racist or bigoted.

It depends on the context in which you mention their colour or religion. The way you phrased your original post led most people, including myself, to believe that you have a problem with the fact that they are black. It just sounnds like a bit of a racist rant, which I'm sure it's not.