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Galway GAA discussion thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    MfMan wrote: »
    Don't give up hope yet. Surprisingly, Galway have beaten KK teams as good as it is now, and when it was least expected. This KK team will get old some time, and the supporting cast isn't as yet proven. Remember, no tyrant lasts forever!!!

    It's true that Galway have beaten Kilkenny in the past when it wasn't expected and for that reason they'll always be wary of us. But right now we're a fair bit behind them. Yes they're getting old and they haven't exactly been sweeping the boards at underage recently, so there may well be an opening in the next couple of years for a new team to knock them off their perch.

    Whether Galway will be that team is anybody's guess, but taking all known info into account you'd be a brave man to put alot of money on it. We'll wait in hope I suppose, that maybe one of these years a Galway manager will find the right formula. Cunningham will need to be given some time though. Let him build it up over a couple of years. Same goes for AM in the football. This chopping and changing of managers has done us no good in either code.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭24yearslater


    ^^^^ Agreed. No chance we'll win th AI this year, but with Cunninghams track record we could have a serious chance by '14. Given the fact it's 24 years this year, I'd happily settle for that.

    I just want us to be competitive this year - no more horror shows like Tullamore & Thurles last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    I just want us to be competitive this year - no more horror shows like Tullamore & Thurles last year.

    That sums it up really. When they lost to Tipp in 2010 no-one could say a word against them because they hurled their hearts out that day and were very unlucky to lose in the end. That's all we want to see, a Galway team go out there and play with heart and determination and in the end if they're beaten by a better team so be it. It's the gutless capitulations over the last few years that have left a bad taste in the mouth for Galway supporters.

    I spoke to fellas after the Waterford game last year who've been going to watch Galway hurling (and football) teams for decades and they'd had enough. It was just one spineless performance too many. So that's the issue Cunningham meeds to address first. Everyone knows we have skilful hurlers that isn't in question, but what we need is a few Sylvies and Lynskeys and Keadys, lads who will go through a brick wall for you. We haven't had that kind of player for a long time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭Submara


    Was at the game yesterday. A good win for the younger players on the Galway panel but unfortunately the same old failings still exist such as bad first touch, loose marking, the inability to catch the sliotar and to win puck outs. Defensively we were good, particularly not conceding any goals. I felt our full forward line were very poor particularly D. Hayes in the first half as a lot of good ball went in but no scores resulted. No All-Ireland for another few years yet!

    Does anybody know if the Hurling Board made a conscious decision to change the shade of maroon on the Galway jerseys or was it a manufacturing decision by O'Neills?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Submara wrote: »

    Does anybody know if the Hurling Board made a conscious decision to change the shade of maroon on the Galway jerseys or was it a manufacturing decision by O'Neills?

    Think somebody might have made an absolute hames of the wash


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Submara wrote: »
    Was at the game yesterday. A good win for the younger players on the Galway panel but unfortunately the same old failings still exist such as bad first touch, loose marking, the inability to catch the sliotar and to win puck outs. Defensively we were good, particularly not conceding any goals. I felt our full forward line were very poor particularly D. Hayes in the first half as a lot of good ball went in but no scores resulted. No All-Ireland for another few years yet!

    Does anybody know if the Hurling Board made a conscious decision to change the shade of maroon on the Galway jerseys or was it a manufacturing decision by O'Neills?

    Sean Walsh referred to that on GBFM, can't say I noticed that much myself, probably colour blind anyway. I'd excuse the sub-par first touch a little yesterday, the pitch wasn't too conducive to flowing hurling as it was heavy and scarred from the Sigerson final on Saturday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭thewildcat


    MfMan wrote: »
    Don't give up hope yet. Surprisingly, Galway have beaten KK teams as good as it is now, and when it was least expected. This KK team will get old some time, and the supporting cast isn't as yet proven. Remember, no tyrant lasts forever!!!

    we got to 3 minor finals in the last 4 years won 2 also 2 under 21's titles
    they might be kittens but they will grow to be tigers;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭MfMan


    thewildcat wrote: »
    we got to 3 minor finals in the last 4 years won 2 also 2 under 21's titles
    they might be kittens but they will grow to be tigers;)

    Hmm.. yes, but Dublin have won the last 3 Leinster U-21 titles plus Minor last year. KK will always produce a conveyor belt of players but there's no guarantee the next generation will rival the current one in terms of success or ability, plus it's hard to see the next manager being as driven as Cody. Look how Cork have entered the doldrums in the past number of years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭thewildcat


    but Dublin didn't win any underage all ireland's so its hard to judge
    Galway have some great underage side's since 1992 but have nothing
    to show for it at senior level.

    as for cork they might have been down for a few years but i bet they still will win all ireland
    title before Dublin or Galway. have they have won 4 since Galway's last win in 1988


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,804 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Galway team to face Westmeath on Sunday - 1 Manus Breathnach, 2 Kieran McGrath, 3 Finian Hanley, 4 Keith Kelly, 5 Garreth Bradshaw 6 J Duane, 7 G Sice, 8 Thomas Flynn, 9 Joe Bergin, 10 Conor Doherty, 11 P Conroy, 12 Mark Hehir, 13 Michael Martin, 14 N Joyce, 15 D Cummins


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭MfMan


    keane2097 wrote: »
    Galway team to face Westmeath on Sunday - 1 Manus Breathnach, 2 Kieran McGrath, 3 Finian Hanley, 4 Keith Kelly, 5 Garreth Bradshaw 6 J Duane, 7 G Sice, 8 Thomas Flynn, 9 Joe Bergin, 10 Conor Doherty, 11 P Conroy, 12 Mark Hehir, 13 Michael Martin, 14 N Joyce, 15 D Cummins

    No Colin Forde, Gary O Donnell or O Currain? Injured? Kieran McGrath had a good domestic campaign with his club so is worth a look, in spite of my long-standing reservations about Corofin defenders playing for Galway. (See also Sice). Big Joe was not, is not and never will be a viable option at midfield, O Mahony was correct when he played him as an auxiliary in '01. Doherty should beef up the HF line, though it remains to be seen if he's a good enough footballer for the team. Rather surprised Hehir held his place against Bane. FF line needs to recapture the form shown in Derry. A win, by no means guaranteed, should restart momentum again, especially as the hard games remaining are then at home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭Starie1975




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,804 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    MfMan wrote: »
    No Colin Forde, Gary O Donnell or O Currain? Injured? Kieran McGrath had a good domestic campaign with his club so is worth a look, in spite of my long-standing reservations about Corofin defenders playing for Galway. (See also Sice). Big Joe was not, is not and never will be a viable option at midfield, O Mahony was correct when he played him as an auxiliary in '01. Doherty should beef up the HF line, though it remains to be seen if he's a good enough footballer for the team. Rather surprised Hehir held his place against Bane. FF line needs to recapture the form shown in Derry. A win, by no means guaranteed, should restart momentum again, especially as the hard games remaining are then at home.

    O Currain is injured alright, dunno about the other two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    keane2097 wrote: »
    O Currain is injured alright, dunno about the other two.

    The other two don't appear to be injury-related. Just trying different options I suppose.

    Bergin was never much of a midfielder it's true, but it shows how much we're still lacking options in that department that we have to go back to him again.

    Westmeath were very poor the last day in getting walloped by Meath so barring a big improvement from them, Galway ought to be winning this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    We've been a lacking a midfield since Kevin Walsh retired. Can't really blame Bergin because he needs good support in midfield anyways and he hasn't got it in nearly a decade. We get shown up in that position every match sadly.


    Here's hoping for a win at the weekend as 5 points from 3 matches would surely be enough even at this early stage to avoid relegation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭Starie1975


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    With difficult games to come against Tyrone, Kildare, Monaghan and Meath relegation is back on the table unfortunately. Bad bad result on Sunday. It'll be a long hard road for AM to get us back to anywhere near the top level. I just hope they give him time because it aint gonna happen overnight, and losing Michael Meehan (as seems likely) is a hammer blow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭24yearslater


    aidan24326 wrote: »
    With difficult games to come against Tyrone, Kildare, Monaghan and Meath relegation is back on the table unfortunately. Bad bad result on Sunday. It'll be a long hard road for AM to get us back to anywhere near the top level. I just hope they give him time because it aint gonna happen overnight, and losing Michael Meehan (as seems likely) is a hammer blow.

    Shocking performance on Sunday - yet another to add to the list of dreadful shows over the last 6 or 7 years. Couldn't believe he selected Coleman & Bergin @ midfield; those 2 clearly weren't good enough in 2005. It doesn't say much for the rebuilding process when Mulholland persists with proven failures. It's got to the stage now where I have zero confidence in getting a result in any game. I am extremely pessimistic about our chances of even getting to a Connacht final this year - it might be a blessing too, looking at the way Mayo are travelling so far. I thought WM were very poor on Sunday, and it easy to see why they were the divisions whipping boys, yet the way Galway were playing towards the end it was clear that we were going to allow ourselves to be rolled over at the finish. Also, am I the only one who doesn't rate Hanley? I'm sick to the back teeth of reading that he's a truly class full back, yet anyime I see him he seems to be on a one man mission to make his man an allstar.

    Think I'll go to Thurles to watch the hurlers on Sunday. Reckon they'll be seriously up against it, but from what I saw v Dublin last week, I reckon they'll at least die with their boots on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭Starie1975


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Shocking performance on Sunday - yet another to add to the list of dreadful shows over the last 6 or 7 years. Couldn't believe he selected Coleman & Bergin @ midfield; those 2 clearly weren't good enough in 2005. It doesn't say much for the rebuilding process when Mulholland persists with proven failures. It's got to the stage now where I have zero confidence in getting a result in any game. I am extremely pessimistic about our chances of even getting to a Connacht final this year - it might be a blessing too, looking at the way Mayo are travelling so far. I thought WM were very poor on Sunday, and it easy to see why they were the divisions whipping boys, yet the way Galway were playing towards the end it was clear that we were going to allow ourselves to be rolled over at the finish. Also, am I the only one who doesn't rate Hanley? I'm sick to the back teeth of reading that he's a truly class full back, yet anyime I see him he seems to be on a one man mission to make his man an allstar.

    Think I'll go to Thurles to watch the hurlers on Sunday. Reckon they'll be seriously up against it, but from what I saw v Dublin last week, I reckon they'll at least die with their boots on.

    Considering going to Thurles meself too. Agree a little re: Hanley; not too bad under a high ball, remember he handled Donaghy fairly well on the wet day a few years ago, not so good when the FF is drawing him around the place. The backs in general don't seem to play as a unit however. Individually goodish footballers for the most part but there always appears to be a lot of space there when opposing forwards race at the defence. Agree also re: Coleman and Bergin, though from the highlights I saw, Joe seemed to do what he should for once, win primary possession and immediately pass it to a better player. Ironically, from talking to a few that were there, midfield was changed about last Sunday when there was no need, in sharp contrast to the Louth game.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    Couldn't believe he selected Coleman & Bergin @ midfield; those 2 clearly weren't good enough in 2005. It doesn't say much for the rebuilding process when Mulholland persists with proven failures.

    To be fair though, Liam Sammon, Joe Kernan and O'Flatharta all tried different players in midfield over the last few years in league matches, and to no avail. None of them proved to be good enough. Not a big fan of Coleman myself but maybe we don't have anything that much better? Hopefully at least one of Flynn and O'Curraoin will come through and make that position their own.

    Overall I think what we have right now is alot of players around the same middling sort of level, with very few standouts. Hardly a single one of them would get on the O'Mahony team (obviously leaving Joyce and Bergin aside) and that says it all. Nicky probably would on a good day, but that's about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭24yearslater


    aidan24326 wrote: »
    To be fair though, Liam Sammon, Joe Kernan and O'Flatharta all tried different players in midfield over the last few years in league matches, and to no avail. None of them proved to be good enough. Not a big fan of Coleman myself but maybe we don't have anything that much better? Hopefully at least one of Flynn and O'Curraoin will come through and make that position their own.

    Overall I think what we have right now is alot of players around the same middling sort of level, with very few standouts. Hardly a single one of them would get on the O'Mahony team (obviously leaving Joyce and Bergin aside) and that says it all. Nicky probably would on a good day, but that's about it.

    I take your point about the lack of quality players available, but I still feel we shouldn't persist with guys that clearly have proved in the past that they won't cut it. MfMan in a previous post suggested that Bergin did ok in midfield - certainly not in the game I was at. If anything it was Colm Doherty who helped out from the half forward line that troubled WM. Bergin was taken off with about 15 minutes to go, Coleman should have been as well. Cunningham made the decision to clearout a load of the deadwood with the hurlers, & give youth its chance. The signs v Dublin the 1st day out were very encouraging, but we won't get carried away. At leaset he's biting the bullet - we won't win the AI this year or next, but at least it's new. Mulholland needs to do the same thing with the footballers, go with young lads and put his faith in them. It's no use talking about transition while stcking with the same old same old. PJ shouldn't be brought back either - it's another backward step.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    So what players would you have kept on? Hanley I suppose? And maybe Sice? I agree that alot of the players that were there over the last few years failed dismally too many times. The 2002 and 2005 U-21 winning teams never really kicked on at senior level, and there's no guarantee that last year's crop will either. They deserve a chance though, and in fairness AM has introduced quite a few of then into the setup so we'll see.

    And I take your point about Joyce. I'd also be in two minds about bringing him back. On the one hand he's probably still one of our better players, and on the other hand there's not alot to be gained now from sticking with fellas who's best days are behind them, a category PJ admittedly falls into.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭24yearslater


    aidan24326 wrote: »
    So what players would you have kept on? Hanley I suppose? And maybe Sice? I agree that alot of the players that were there over the last few years failed dismally too many times. The 2002 and 2005 U-21 winning teams never really kicked on at senior level, and there's no guarantee that last year's crop will either. They deserve a chance though, and in fairness AM has introduced quite a few of then into the setup so we'll see.

    And I take your point about Joyce. I'd also be in two minds about bringing him back. On the one hand he's probably still one of our better players, and on the other hand there's not alot to be gained now from sticking with fellas who's best days are behind them, a category PJ admittedly falls into.

    Wouldn't have kept Hanley or sice, both v poor. Would cull them as well, along with bergin & coleman. Reckon Bradshaw is about the only older guy I would keep - the rest aren't up to it. If it means further relegation to div 3 this year well so be it, we're headn that way anyway. At least the younger lads will get game time. Your point about the 02 & 05 teams is valid, but I feel the '11 side have more to offer. They'll just be dragged down if they are forced to play with lads who have developed a mentality of failure at this stage.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,579 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    What's parking like around Pearse Stadium on matchdays lads?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭O.A.P


    What's parking like around Pearse Stadium on matchdays lads?
    Not good. The day the Pope came to Ballybrit was worse though.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭Starie1975


    What's parking like around Pearse Stadium on matchdays lads?

    Parking not great around the stadium buddy, but it's not going to be a sell out. You should find parking in and around Salthill.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Parking is non-existent close to the stadium but if you're willing to walk 5-10 minutes you'll get it no bother along the Prom stretch once you're there before 2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭MfMan


    aidan24326 wrote: »
    To be fair though, Liam Sammon, Joe Kernan and O'Flatharta all tried different players in midfield over the last few years in league matches, and to no avail. None of them proved to be good enough. Not a big fan of Coleman myself but maybe we don't have anything that much better? Hopefully at least one of Flynn and O'Curraoin will come through and make that position their own.

    Overall I think what we have right now is alot of players around the same middling sort of level, with very few standouts. Hardly a single one of them would get on the O'Mahony team (obviously leaving Joyce and Bergin aside) and that says it all. Nicky probably would on a good day, but that's about it.

    Nicky wouldn't be let near it! Bradshaw perhaps, that's about it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 695 ✭✭✭RealityCheck


    MfMan wrote: »
    Nicky wouldn't be let near it! Bradshaw perhaps, that's about it.

    When you consider the players he had at his disposal in the wing back positions, even that is pushing it.


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