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  • #662
    rpmcs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭rpmcs


    OK well it sounds like it may need something to seal it,If short term, rock wool wedged up around gap to seal, make sure its rock wool as its fire rated, but as said short term,

    If flue heats up it will take smoke up as you said but it will also take air from path of least resistance in your case probably around flue pipe directly from room, so basically cooling gases it joins coming up from flue pipe and most likely causing stove to burn inefficiently causing glass to blacken up,

    So in my opinion try to seal gap and see if this helps,


  • #663
    TopTec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭TopTec


    Thanks rpmcs. I have some fire rope around somewhere as well so I will plug the gap. Your explanation makes sense - If I got you right, if I prevent the flue pulling air from anywhere other than the inside of the stove it may help.

    Cheers dude.

    TT


  • #664
    rpmcs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭rpmcs


    Yes thats what i recon, fuel seems fine so it must be down to draught, let us know how it goes....


  • #665
    john_cappa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭john_cappa


    What insert stove has the biggest boiler output for heating rads?


  • #666
    Stove Fan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭Stove Fan


    TopTec wrote: »
    Evening Folks.

    I have temporarily fitted a new Oisin multi fuel into the existing chimney in the kitchen to provide some warmth whilst I continue a total refurb of my cottage. (Eventually there will be a multi-fuel cooker in there).

    The chimney, clay lined, was swept and appears in good condition. I have inserted a temporary flue pipe into the chimney reaching up to the clay liner. I tested the draw, and due to numerous drafts in the cottage , the chimney sucks up like a hoover.

    Now, I have had the stove going three times, and on each occasion, the glass gets so tarred up after an hour or so, it is impossible to see the fire inside. Even with the vent fully open I can see the stove is full of moving smoke.

    Do you think this might purely be an issue over insufficent draw or am I doing something fundamentally wrong?

    Thanks for any replies.

    TT

    Hi, having the flue sealed will help with the draw of the fire.
    I would fit a clay flue adapter to join/seal between the fluepipe and clay liner. Scroll down to see a pic. The shoulder version is the best as it directs any tar back in. You could use the sump version, but seal it well. You do need a flat base all round and no lintels in the way etc to fit one of these.
    http://www.stovesonline.co.uk/wood_burning_stoves/single-skin-flue.html

    Also make sure the vent for the airwash is open, especially so burning wood and make sure the wood is very dry.

    Stove Fan:)


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  • #667
    Stove Fan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭Stove Fan


    john_cappa wrote: »
    What insert stove has the biggest boiler output for heating rads?

    Hi, Most seem to be up to 12 kw boiler output for standard fireplace openings and larger boiler outputs for fireplaces designed for the stove while building.

    The one that springs to mind is the Aarrow EB12HE inset boiler stove.

    12kw max output boiler.
    5kw room output.

    http://www.stratfordboilerstoves.co.uk/models/inset-stoves/eb12i-he.html

    There is the esse 350 GS.

    11.1kw to water.
    3.7 kw to room.
    Based on using wood.

    http://www.esse.com/multifuel-stoves/350gs/


    There are other inset stoves but dearer but bigger boilers.

    http://www.stovesonline.co.uk/wood_burning_stoves/Inset-boiler-stoves.html


    Just as an example the 2 stoves from the top would heat 5x 600mm x 1000mm double convector rads and 1x 600 x 600mm double, plus domestic hot water.

    If you want to measure your existing rads you could work out a very rough quide on boiler size. Add on 2-3kw for a standard sized hot water cylinder.
    http://www.inspiredheating.co.uk/acatalog/DELONGHI_COMPACT_RADIATORS.html



    Please have a plumber in though to confirm the boiler size and room heat output required before ordering:)

    Stove Fan:)


  • #668
    TopTec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭TopTec


    Stove Fan wrote: »

    Also make sure the vent for the airwash is open, especially so burning wood and make sure the wood is very dry.

    Stove Fan:)

    Hello Stove Fan,

    The only vent I have is the circular vent for controlling the burning on the lower front of the stove. Is this what you mean?

    TT


  • #669
    Stove Fan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭Stove Fan


    TopTec wrote: »
    Hello Stove Fan,

    The only vent I have is the circular vent for controlling the burning on the lower front of the stove. Is this what you mean?

    TT


    Hi:)

    I have just had a look at the stanley oisin and it looks like it doesn't have airwash/secondary combustion for keeping the glass clean.
    http://www.stanleystoves.com/stoves/room-heating

    If you look at the other models the vent slots above the door is the airwash/secondary burn.

    This helps to let air from outside have a curtain of air pass over the glass to keep it cleaner.

    Have a read through the manual about operating the fire and controls and see if it mentions the above.

    The bottom vent is just to control the burn rate.

    Stove Fan:)


  • #670
    Bravobabe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭Bravobabe


    Stove Fan wrote: »
    Hi, I would go with the complete package. Ie they supply everything. At least then if something they supplied is wrong you have comeback.
    Are they sure your room needs a 7kw stove? I would of thought 5kw would be plenty
    Is this a freestanding stove or built in?

    Thanks Stove Fan.
    The room is actually 4m x 6m.
    While the house is TF it is not fully airtight (as in we don't have a heat exchange system) However there are not many draughts:D
    We are now probably looking at a 4.5kw insert stove with marble fireplace.
    Why - because I think it looks neater - I'm worried with an external stove that the door will open over a wooden floor and to use a "heart-extender" will eat into the floor space (While the room is 4mx6m, the chimney is built internally)
    The stove is likely to be a Green insert stove supplied by a company based in the Kilcock area.
    Also as the house is to be rented, I think the insert stove may be safer (less surface area to get burned on etc)


  • #671
    john_cappa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭john_cappa


    Stove Fan wrote: »
    Hi, Most seem to be up to 12 kw boiler output for standard fireplace openings and larger boiler outputs for fireplaces designed for the stove while building.

    The one that springs to mind is the Aarrow EB12HE inset boiler stove.

    12kw max output boiler.
    5kw room output.

    http://www.stratfordboilerstoves.co.uk/models/inset-stoves/eb12i-he.html

    There is the esse 350 GS.

    11.1kw to water.
    3.7 kw to room.
    Based on using wood.

    http://www.esse.com/multifuel-stoves/350gs/


    There are other inset stoves but dearer but bigger boilers.

    http://www.stovesonline.co.uk/wood_burning_stoves/Inset-boiler-stoves.html


    Just as an example the 2 stoves from the top would heat 5x 600mm x 1000mm double convector rads and 1x 600 x 600mm double, plus domestic hot water.

    If you want to measure your existing rads you could work out a very rough quide on boiler size. Add on 2-3kw for a standard sized hot water cylinder.
    http://www.inspiredheating.co.uk/acatalog/DELONGHI_COMPACT_RADIATORS.html



    Please have a plumber in though to confirm the boiler size and room heat output required before ordering:)

    Stove Fan:)

    Ideally i would like one of the bigger ones but their room output is very large!


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  • #672
    Stove Fan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭Stove Fan


    Bravobabe wrote: »

    Thanks Stove Fan.
    The room is actually 4m x 6m.
    While the house is TF it is not fully airtight (as in we don't have a heat exchange system) However there are not many draughts:D
    We are now probably looking at a 4.5kw insert stove with marble fireplace.
    Why - because I think it looks neater - I'm worried with an external stove that the door will open over a wooden floor and to use a "heart-extender" will eat into the floor space (While the room is 4mx6m, the chimney is built internally)
    The stove is likely to be a Green insert stove supplied by a company based in the Kilcock area.
    Also as the house is to be rented, I think the insert stove may be safer (less surface area to get burned on etc)

    Hi:) I think your very wise to go for an inset stove on a rental property. At least an inset stove takes up the least space. The 4.5kw output should heat the room well.
    I have no experiance on that make of stove, but you can always upgrade the stove in the future if you want to fit something better.
    I like the woodwarm fireview inset. This is the stove I would fit in my own home, but probably not in a rental:)


    Stove Fan:)


  • #673
    Coles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭Coles


    Great thread, Stove Fan.

    I'm getting a Stanley Oisin installed and I was wondering what size liner to put in? The common advice is to continue the liner the same diameter as the stove outlet (5" in this case), but I wasn't sure if that was sufficient...?:confused: It's a single storey bungalow. Thanks.


  • #674
    Stove Fan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭Stove Fan


    Coles wrote: »
    Great thread, Stove Fan.

    I'm getting a Stanley Oisin installed and I was wondering what size liner to put in? The common advice is to continue the liner the same diameter as the stove outlet (5" in this case), but I wasn't sure if that was sufficient...?:confused: It's a single storey bungalow. Thanks.

    Hi, put a 6 inch liner in if it will fit down the clay lined flue.

    In the UK you have to use a minimum of 6 inch even if the stove has a 5 inch outlet. The reason for this is that 5 inch soots up quicker than 6 inch etc.

    The only way you can use a stove with 5 inch flue outlet in the UK and line the chimney in 5 inch is if the stove is a cleanburn DEFRA approved stove.
    Ie non defra, 5 inch outlet =6 inch flue liner minimum.

    Defra approved stove 5 inch outlet = 5 inch flue liner ok

    Other flue outlets = same size, ie 6 inch outlet=6inch liner etc.


    Stove Fan:)


  • #675
    Coles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭Coles


    Thanks, Stove Fan. Great advice as usual. I had a look at the Building Regs and they say that for a sub-20kW wood burning stove a 125mm flue will suffice but if it burns coal (multifuel) it needs to be 150mm.


  • #676
    OuterBombie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭OuterBombie


    Hi Folks,

    If you find a minute of your time to read this I'm looking for some suggestions about what to do in our house.

    We are renovation a semi-detacted two storey in Renmore, Galway. The house has two existing fireplaces, backed onto one another, one into the front sitting room and one into the dining room.

    The plans for the renovation involve the sitting room remaing as it (roughly 16m2), connected via double doors to the dining room. The dining room however will be extending through into the kitchen and utility room, effectively creating one new room the length of the house (roughly 30m2).

    The house will be getting an upgrade of the heating system (oil-boiler, new rads) and insulation (beading in cavity walls and underfloor plus attic). We are not considering a Stove to heat the water (boiler type).

    Our budget is getting tight (1500 euros for stove (or stoves) itself) and I'm looking for recommendations on options.

    We were initially thinking a double-sided stove but that might blow the budget plus I have reservations about it heating the smaller room too hot and the larger room not hot enough. Does anyone have any experience in these?

    Next up would be two small stoves (or a stove plus an inset), one (maybe 7.5kW) to heat the dining room/kitchen, one (5kW) to heat the sitting room. Would this be overkill? bearing in mind that the two rooms are connected via double doors. Would there be a time when we'd have both stoves running at once (probably not).

    Thing is I'm happy to get a stove in the dining/kitchen, makes sense but question would be what do with the fireplace in the sitting room? leave as it, close up? I'm consious of the fireplace effectively being a hole in the wall when not in use.

    Any thoughts? Thanks.


  • #677
    Stove Fan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭Stove Fan


    OuterBombie wrote: »
    Hi Folks,

    If you find a minute of your time to read this I'm looking for some suggestions about what to do in our house.

    We are renovation a semi-detacted two storey in Renmore, Galway. The house has two existing fireplaces, backed onto one another, one into the front sitting room and one into the dining room.

    The plans for the renovation involve the sitting room remaing as it (roughly 16m2), connected via double doors to the dining room. The dining room however will be extending through into the kitchen and utility room, effectively creating one new room the length of the house (roughly 30m2).

    The house will be getting an upgrade of the heating system (oil-boiler, new rads) and insulation (beading in cavity walls and underfloor plus attic). We are not considering a Stove to heat the water (boiler type).

    Our budget is getting tight (1500 euros for stove (or stoves) itself) and I'm looking for recommendations on options.

    We were initially thinking a double-sided stove but that might blow the budget plus I have reservations about it heating the smaller room too hot and the larger room not hot enough. Does anyone have any experience in these?

    Next up would be two small stoves (or a stove plus an inset), one (maybe 7.5kW) to heat the dining room/kitchen, one (5kW) to heat the sitting room. Would this be overkill? bearing in mind that the two rooms are connected via double doors. Would there be a time when we'd have both stoves running at once (probably not).

    Thing is I'm happy to get a stove in the dining/kitchen, makes sense but question would be what do with the fireplace in the sitting room? leave as it, close up? I'm consious of the fireplace effectively being a hole in the wall when not in use.

    Any thoughts? Thanks.

    Hi:) I think a 3kw stove/inset would be adequate for that sized living room and a 5-6kw stove for the new extension. Especially as your upgrading the insulation.
    I cant really envisage you having both stoves going unless the oil heating packs up:( It really depends how you use the rooms. My aunt lives in the kitchen/diner during the day, so fire lit and then uses the living room fire of an evening and lets the kitchen fire go out.
    You may struggle with the budget but really depends on the condition of the chimneys and whether the chimneys need lining or not and what surround/stove you buy. You could easily spend 1,500 on a top quality stove very easily:) If you bought budget stoves you could manage to do both providing the chimneys are in good condition.

    I would go for an insert stove for living room and stove for kitchen.

    The double sided stoves are quite expensive and would require quite major building work to knock out the opening for the stove each side. I personally would stick to seperate stoves if budget tight.

    Have a look at Stanley, Olymberyl, Inis, Boru, Blacksmith, Stovax, Aarrow, Villager, hunter. stoves and see if anything there you like in your budget.

    Or alternatively get an installer out to quote.
    You may prefer to just buy one good stove for the Kitchen and leave the living room blank or the reverse instead. Clearview, Morso, charnwood, Woodwarm if after a quality stove.

    Stove Fan:)


  • #678
    daisyscience
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭daisyscience


    Hey all!

    Just wondering if it is normal to get an Erin Stanley stove installed and for a lot of smoke to be in the room and house from it? Its really bad and makes me feel sick. My mom had it put in by people who were recommended and did a terrible job. So bad that they never even came back for nearly a grand that she owes them for work done.

    The fireplace surrounding it looked terrible and wasn't even finished. I think they took advantage of her as shes living alone and is quiet trusting.

    The most important issue right now is the smoke (and the flood but were not sure that they caused that yet). Is a lot of smoke normal? She had the chimney cleaned just before it was put in and is getting it done again tomorrow. The chimney wasn't lined or anything different done to it as far as I know before the stove was put in.

    Thanks! :D


  • #679
    Stove Fan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭Stove Fan


    daisyscience wrote: »
    Hey all!

    Just wondering if it is normal to get an Erin Stanley stove installed and for a lot of smoke to be in the room and house from it? Its really bad and makes me feel sick. My mom had it put in by people who were recommended and did a terrible job. So bad that they never even came back for nearly a grand that she owes them for work done.

    The fireplace surrounding it looked terrible and wasn't even finished. I think they took advantage of her as shes living alone and is quiet trusting.

    The most important issue right now is the smoke (and the flood but were not sure that they caused that yet). Is a lot of smoke normal? She had the chimney cleaned just before it was put in and is getting it done again tomorrow. The chimney wasn't lined or anything different done to it as far as I know before the stove was put in.

    Thanks! :D

    Hi:) It's normal to have a paint/chemical smoke haze only while the paint cures on a brand new/repainted stove. This stinks, but goes after a few hot fires. Quite obnoxious, but have the windows open.

    Any other actual smoke as in smoking literally from the fuel being burnt is not normal. Is there any chance of a photo? Is it a wooden surround and is it charred?
    Don't use the stove and get the stove installation inspected for safety and get a carbon monoxide alarm installed.

    Stove Fan:)


  • #680
    JMSE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 906 ✭✭✭JMSE


    Can I run the stove without the throat plate?

    Reason I ask is I want to find a way to avoid the cloud of smoke which comes back out when you open the door to reload. You'd think a stove would have no issues with smoke, but its not the case. Often you hear the phrase 'dont burn this/that in an open fire' - the stove has to be worse by far. Our old open fire would only downsmoke if there was bad wind but now if I reload the stove every 45 mins or so we have a cloud each time.


  • #681
    Stove Fan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭Stove Fan


    JMSE wrote: »
    Can I run the stove without the throat plate?

    Reason I ask is I want to find a way to avoid the cloud of smoke which comes back out when you open the door to reload. You'd think a stove would have no issues with smoke, but its not the case. Often you hear the phrase 'dont burn this/that in an open fire' - the stove has to be worse by far. Our old open fire would only downsmoke if there was bad wind but now if I reload the stove every 45 mins or so we have a cloud each time.

    Hi, Without the throat plate it won't be as efficient as it would allow more heat up the chimney.
    Is the flue fine and clear and no horizontal runs of more than 150mm. Is there a permanent air supply if the stove is over 5kw or ventilation needed if the house is very airtight.

    You really need to have this investigated!!

    There was a stove on here that was smoking and there was something that was removed and it worked perfectly after.

    Looked it up.
    Stanley reginald.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=76975981

    Stove Fan:)


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  • #682
    limerickred
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 ✭limerickred


    daisyscience wrote: »
    Hey all!

    Just wondering if it is normal to get an Erin Stanley stove installed and for a lot of smoke to be in the room and house from it? Its really bad and makes me feel sick. My mom had it put in by people who were recommended and did a terrible job. So bad that they never even came back for nearly a grand that she owes them for work done.

    The fireplace surrounding it looked terrible and wasn't even finished. I think they took advantage of her as shes living alone and is quiet trusting.

    The most important issue right now is the smoke (and the flood but were not sure that they caused that yet). Is a lot of smoke normal? She had the chimney cleaned just before it was put in and is getting it done again tomorrow. The chimney wasn't lined or anything different done to it as far as I know before the stove was put in.

    Thanks! :D
    Just to let you know,i got a stanley erin installed about 9 months ago,and have never had a problem with smoke,although i did get the chimney lined with a flexible steel flue liner.Maybe that makes a difference,but i would definitely get it checked out.


  • #683
    darkhorse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭darkhorse


    Hi everyone.
    This is my very first time to post. I wonder can anybody help me out. You see I am getting in the oil central heating and I am buying two stoves. We've already got one picked out for the sitting room - a multi fuel stove. In the other room I am seriously thinking of getting an oil fired stove. My queston is if anybody has experience of this, will it be very expensive for me as I will have it on in that room for quite a few hours in the day. This is a big decision for us (and an expensive one!) so I would appreciate any advice. Can you tell me if the oil stoves are expensive to buy aswell?
    Thanks a million


  • #684
    Stove Fan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭Stove Fan


    jbyrne10 wrote: »
    Hi everyone.
    This is my very first time to post. I wonder can anybody help me out. You see I am getting in the oil central heating and I am buying two stoves. We've already got one picked out for the sitting room - a multi fuel stove. In the other room I am seriously thinking of getting an oil fired stove. My queston is if anybody has experience of this, will it be very expensive for me as I will have it on in that room for quite a few hours in the day. This is a big decision for us (and an expensive one!) so I would appreciate any advice. Can you tell me if the oil stoves are expensive to buy aswell?
    Thanks a million

    I'm sorry but I dont have any direct experience of oil stoves. The only thing that would put me off is the price of oil. I think you would be better to let the condenser oil boiler heat the room as well. The condensing oil boiler would be more efficient.

    See what others say who have this stove:)
    Oil stoves are quite expensive new. You may find a good one second hand, see it working if possible.

    Stove Fan:)


  • #685
    JMSE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 906 ✭✭✭JMSE


    Stove Fan wrote: »
    Hi, Without the throat plate it won't be as efficient as it would allow more heat up the chimney.
    Is the flue fine and clear and no horizontal runs of more than 150mm. Is there a permanent air supply if the stove is over 5kw or ventilation needed if the house is very airtight.

    You really need to have this investigated!!

    There was a stove on here that was smoking and there was something that was removed and it worked perfectly after.

    Looked it up.
    Stanley reginald.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=76975981

    Stove Fan:)

    Thanks Stove Fan, definitely no issue with hidden plates, I've swept this chimney out only lately. Also the flue is directly over the stove exhaust outlet.

    But having had a quick goo at the condition of my wall-vent, its in fairly poor condition. The holes are 50% blocked with web/dust which you just dont see when not up close. Also I think I could increase the size of the opening in the plasterboard behind the vent plate and then see how things go back at the stove then. Will do at weekend when more energy is available.


  • #686
    darkhorse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭darkhorse


    Thank you for your reply, Stove Fan. I do agree that the price of oil is not a great incentive in relation to my quest. The thing is, would it be feasable to have a second multifuel stove, as my sitting room and dining room fires are back to back. As I said, we, that is, the wife has picked out a stove for the sitting room, which she mostly occupies(I do not watch soaps)for most of the evening. I, on the other hand am in the dining room watching programmes that may not be as sensible. Anyway, I calculated that my requirements would be at least 4.5Kw. So, could you recommend a stove that would just heat the room for me. Much appreciated.
    John


  • #687
    Stove Fan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭Stove Fan


    jbyrne10 wrote: »
    Thank you for your reply, Stove Fan. I do agree that the price of oil is not a great incentive in relation to my quest. The thing is, would it be feasable to have a second multifuel stove, as my sitting room and dining room fires are back to back. As I said, we, that is, the wife has picked out a stove for the sitting room, which she mostly occupies(I do not watch soaps)for most of the evening. I, on the other hand am in the dining room watching programmes that may not be as sensible. Anyway, I calculated that my requirements would be at least 4.5Kw. So, could you recommend a stove that would just heat the room for me. Much appreciated.
    John

    Hi, so long as the two rooms each have their own seperate chimneys then yes. If you look at the chimney above the roof and it has at least two chimney pots then you have at least two chimneys. If only one pot then you can only have one stove unless you build another chimney.

    See here for various stove reviews. www.whatstove.co.uk you can view different european manufacturers and see pictures.

    If you can afford it consider a morso squirrel or a woodwarm fireview 4.5kw

    Try and buy a quality stove if the budget allows. There is stanley, and other Irish brands although they are mostly Chinese imports, but if your on a budget this may suit or villager or hunter stoves.

    Stove Fan:)


  • #688
    Stove Fan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭Stove Fan


    JMSE wrote: »
    Thanks Stove Fan, definitely no issue with hidden plates, I've swept this chimney out only lately. Also the flue is directly over the stove exhaust outlet.

    But having had a quick goo at the condition of my wall-vent, its in fairly poor condition. The holes are 50% blocked with web/dust which you just dont see when not up close. Also I think I could increase the size of the opening in the plasterboard behind the vent plate and then see how things go back at the stove then. Will do at weekend when more energy is available.

    Sounds like the air supply could be the issue. If this doesn't sort the smoke issue get it inspected as fume emmision can kill:eek:.

    Fit a carbon monoxide alarm anyway for in the future.

    Stove Fan:)


  • #689
    darkhorse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭darkhorse


    Hi Stove Fan,
    I had a look at the various stoves. Good selection and I have a difficult choice. Thank you very much for all your help and I very much appreciate it, as I have got two chimney's and I know a good deal more now than I did yesterday. Thank's again.
    John


  • #690
    HousetoHome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2 ✭HousetoHome


    Hello Stove Fan & All,

    I have an open plan area of 25' wide X 30' long X 9' high ceilings (it's actually slighty 'L' shaped, but to square it out, it'd be 25' X 30'), with excellent insulation, in a new build house.

    I would like to install a high quality, non-boiler, multi fuel stove, please.

    I have checked several different online KW calculators for a room that size, but the suggested stove heat output varies considerably from website to website. Some suggested that I would need a stove with an output of 9.9KW, while others suggest as high as 14.3 KWs.

    I'd have also looked at Stove Reviews to help select a manufacturers, but I cant narrow my choice until I know what KW I'd need first.

    I'd appreciate any recommendations of output needs, and stoves please.

    Thanks very much.


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  • #691
    Park Royal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Park Royal


    JMSE wrote: »
    Can I run the stove without the throat plate?

    Reason I ask is I want to find a way to avoid the cloud of smoke which comes back out when you open the door to reload. You'd think a stove would have no issues with smoke, but its not the case. Often you hear the phrase 'dont burn this/that in an open fire' - the stove has to be worse by far. Our old open fire would only downsmoke if there was bad wind but now if I reload the stove every 45 mins or so we have a cloud each time.

    I find if I have to reload fuel into the stove , the previous fuel is in or close to ashes......I burn smokeless coal, turf briquettes, and bits of timber/wood, as a result there is next to no smoke at that stage.....

    but as routine I open the top air vent ( wait a few seconds) to allow any fumes go up the chimney , I then put in the new fuel close up and adjust the top air vent to allow some small venting up the chimney ......

    thats my experience....may help....?


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