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UFC 143: Diaz V Condit Official Thread Discussion

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  • #452
    mailburner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,952 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    Dean09 wrote: »
    I don't think Diaz deserved a rematch at all. Condit won the fight fair and square and Diaz cried about it till he got what he wanted.
    I'd say Condit was offered crazy money for the rematch otherwise I don't see why he'd agree to it.

    that was my first thought when i seen it
    i'd love to know how much he's getting and i'd imagine
    it is huge money


  • #453
    horsemeat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭horsemeat


    pisses hot for mary jane lads

    https://twitter.com/#!/FrontRowBrian


    astounded


  • #454
    Ush1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Nice shout!

    I'd love for Diego to get another shot at a belt. He's always all action and a guy everybody loves to see fight (Oh wait....... isn't he a Jackson fighter? :P ). Yes, he's 2-2 in his last 4, but he wins this weekend and he's won 3 in a row against Thiago, Kampmann and Ellenberger.

    Should he win decisively i'd love to see him go against Condit!

    The Kampmann fight was an awful decision and I predict him being beaten by Ellenberger. Sanchez is not a technical enough fighter to be a UFC title holder in my opinion.


  • #455
    mailburner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,952 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    I'd love to see diaz get a shot at koshchek myself

    ellenberger might not finish sanchez but it will be comfortable and I think
    ellenberger will be a handful for anybody
    sanchez only a stepping stone for jake and i cant wait to see who
    jake gets after that
    I'd love to see jake go toe to toe with diaz myself
    he gave condit an awful beating in their fight in the first round


  • #456
    cowzerp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    mailburner wrote: »
    one thing for sure though, nobody will ever stand toe to toe with diaz
    and come out with a win...that man is just different class on his feet

    BJ Penn punched him around round 1 before he gassed out.

    Diaz is not a great striker, too weak has no footwork and poor technique-in fairness he has good range and uses it well and has great stamina.

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



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  • #457
    Xlami
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Xlami


    mailburner wrote: »
    one thing for sure though, nobody will ever stand toe to toe with diaz
    and come out with a win...that man is just different class on his feet

    Did you watch the Paul Daley fight? Daley had him rocked and badly, badly hurt, could have been stopped. BJ outboxed him in round 1 as was said and although he avenged it did you see what KJ Noons did to him in their first fight?


  • #458
    dave1982
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,604 ✭✭✭dave1982


    horsemeat wrote: »
    pisses hot for mary jane lads

    https://twitter.com/#!/FrontRowBrian


    astounded

    What? can't uberstand ya man, who is he?


  • #459
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,685 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    But I seriously don't think there's anyone out there who would be excited about a Diaz v Condit rematch. Not after the last one.
    After all this drama, I'd say tis wil one of the bigger fights of the year
    dave1982 wrote: »
    What? can't uberstand ya man, who is he?

    See his last post.
    horsemeat wrote: »
    A) Nick could have failed a post fight banned substance test which may explain a sub par performance.

    Obviously he isn't refering to anabolics, or PEDs as they wouldn't hinder performance.
    So it must be recreational subtances.
    Mary Jane. MariJana. Marijua..
    Now do you get it.

    (edit: although saying that's the reason for sub-par performance is a cop out - in his system does not mean under the influence of)


  • #460
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,261 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    horsemeat wrote: »
    A) Nick could have failed a post fight banned substance test which may explain a sub par performance.

    Condit's game-plan was the reason for Diaz's sub par performance, not the fact that he smoked a joint the night before the fight!


  • #461
    mailburner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,952 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    cowzerp wrote: »
    BJ Penn punched him around round 1 before he gassed out.

    Diaz is not a great striker, too weak has no footwork and poor technique-in fairness he has good range and uses it well and has great stamina.

    thats true
    his footwork is poor and he just relies on his stamina a relentless pace and a great chin and
    his reach


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  • #462
    mailburner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,952 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    Xlami wrote: »
    Did you watch the Paul Daley fight? Daley had him rocked and badly, badly hurt, could have been stopped. BJ outboxed him in round 1 as was said and although he avenged it did you see what KJ Noons did to him in their first fight?

    long time ago though the first noons fight
    very one sided second time around
    daley was one of few who had him badly hurt in the past few years but
    to be fair, the shots he took off daley would have knocked out almost
    anybody in that division


  • #463
    SDTimeout
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,660 ✭✭✭SDTimeout


    Dana these commissions have annoyed you for too long. Have the fight in the U.K :)


  • #464
    dickdasterly
    Registered Users Posts: 48 ✭dickdasterly


    I seen it as Diaz rounds 1,2,5 wasn't that impressed with the whole fight tbh.

    For me the pace was to slow, there will be a rematch dana will pay Condit enough for it.

    Next time Diaz by submission.


  • #465
    Jimmy Bottlehead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,122 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    If this rumour is true, I find it even more justified that Condit won.

    The guy is an absolute ambassador for MMA - smart, respectful, well-spoken, driven, great athlete and fighter, and seems like a bang-on guy with a nice family.

    I've never warmed to Diaz, with his loud disrespectful mouth. He came off better than usual in the Countdown shows, but I still think that MMA needs the likes of Condit rather than the likes of Diaz as the face of the sport.


  • #466
    p to the e
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭p to the e


    It's weird we haven't heard anything from Diaz at this stage. It's all Dana and Condit's camp doing the talking with a little bit from Caesar Gracie doing the usual mouthy stuff. Maybe Diaz is actually contemplating retiring


  • #467
    dickdasterly
    Registered Users Posts: 48 ✭dickdasterly


    mailburner wrote: »
    thats true
    his footwork is poor and he just relies on his stamina a relentless pace and a great chin and
    his reach

    And timing he has that he has caught a lot of people with timing punches.


  • #468
    dickdasterly
    Registered Users Posts: 48 ✭dickdasterly


    Diaz failed a post fight drug test he was found with marijuana in his system, throws a big spanner in any rematch considering its not the 1st time this has happened with him.:(


  • #469
    Logical Fallacy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    What a dumbass.

    http://mmajunkie.com/news/27355/nick-diaz-tests-positive-for-marijuana-faces-disciplinary-action-following-ufc-143.mma
    arlos Condit and Nick Diaz may ultimately fight again someday, but it doesn't look like it will be anytime soon.

    Former Strikeforce champion Diaz tested positive for marijuana metabolites following his controversial five-round clash with former WEC titleholder Condit at this past weekend's UFC 143 event.

    That's according to Nevada State Athletic Commission executive director Keith Kizer, who today emailed the event's drug-testing results to MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com).

    Diaz was one of 18 fighters on the card tested for performance-enhancing drugs and drugs of abuse. The remaining tests received to date have thus far all been negative.

    Diaz will ultimately have to appear before the NSAC to address the failed screen. Barring a successful appeal, the offense will serve as Diaz's second infraction under the commission's watch. Diaz also tested positive for marijuana following a 2007 win over Takanori Gomi at PRIDE 33. Diaz was suspended for six months for that offense, and the result of the bout was changed to a no-contest.

    This past Saturday at UFC 143, Condit earned a unanimous decision over Diaz to become the UFC interim welterweight champion and set a fight with undisputed champ Georges St-Pierre sometime this year. The pay-per-view event took place this past Saturday at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas.

    Diaz said he would retire shortly after the decision was handed down. UFC president Dana White then said he would understand if Diaz wanted to retire but also entertained the possibility of a rematch with Condit as St-Pierre healed from the torn ACL that scratched his scheduled meeting with Diaz and this past Saturday's event.

    However, the potential rematch was quickly nixed by Diaz's camp, who declined to speculate as to the reason.

    Diaz and his camp have yet to comment on the test result.

    For complete coverage of UFC 143, stay tuned to the UFC Events section of the site.


  • #470
    Xlami
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Xlami


    Surpised he wasn't caught against BJ, especially after his post fight interview.


  • #471
    dickdasterly
    Registered Users Posts: 48 ✭dickdasterly


    Xlami wrote: »
    Surpised he wasn't caught against BJ, especially after his post fight interview.

    That's just the way he is and was hardly stoned coming out of the ring, and passed that time.


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  • #472
    The Bored One
    Registered Users Posts: 396 ✭✭The Bored One


    At this point it seems Diaz is actually incapable of being professional. Im very curious how Dana will react to this, he must be wondering if Diaz is more of a liability than an asset. Although the lack of professionalism seems to have made him into some sort of folk hero among some fanbases.


  • #473
    CageWager
    Registered Users Posts: 545 ✭✭✭CageWager


    dickdasterly wrote: »
    That's just the way he is and was hardly stoned coming out of the ring

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRhk8-ah1Ps


  • #474
    Minstrel27
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    Must have left it 9 days out this time.


  • #475
    dickdasterly
    Registered Users Posts: 48 ✭dickdasterly


    CageWager wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRhk8-ah1Ps

    The world according to joe rogan well it must be right then, I have smoked my whole life and failed a test but hadn't smoked for 4 days prior, I wasn't stoned when I failed to drug test. Don't believe the hype. ;)


  • #476
    loremolis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 944 ✭✭✭loremolis


    dickdasterly wrote: »
    CageWager wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRhk8-ah1Ps

    The world according to joe rogan well it must be right then, I have smoked my whole life and failed a test but hadn't smoked for 4 days prior, I wasn't stoned when I failed to drug test. Don't believe the hype. ;)

    I don't believe the hype but I still can't understand what you have written.


  • #477
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,685 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    dickdasterly wrote: »
    ]
    The world according to joe rogan well it must be right then, I have smoked my whole life and failed a test but hadn't smoked for 4 days prior, I wasn't stoned when I failed to drug test. Don't believe the hype. ;)
    Were you stoned watching that video because nobody said you have to be stoned at the time of the test to fail. They were talking about the Gomi fight, were apparently his levels were so ridiculously high.


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