But its cold outside

Younganne · 23-01-2012 06:59PM

legs are fantastic today

...don't even feel like i was out running yesterday...will definitely be keeping up the cold baths after any run longer that 8m... wish i felt as good...completely knackered since last friday...the interval sesion lunchtime thur, 75min kettlebells thur evening and then a very, very late night Friday night(4am..i'm so not able for socialising)

can't wait for early night tonight!!!!

lost two more toenails, big toenail and one beside it..that's 6 gone and 2 to go...since DCM:eek:, the 2 little toenails never seem to be affected!!!

neilc · 23-01-2012 09:20PM

Younganne wrote: »

lost two more toenails, big toenail and one beside it..that's 6 gone and 2 to go...since DCM:eek:, the 2 little toenails never seem to be affected!!!

What's the story, are they gone gone or do they grow back!!

Mr Slow · 23-01-2012 09:21PM

neilc wrote: »

What's the story, are they gone gone or do they grow back!!

The nail bed goes hard and they start to reappear, until your next marathon:D

Cutex · 24-01-2012 11:35AM

Hi Anne

Really enjoying your log! Great to see you back running & enjoying it

I lost my first toenail at the weekend and was so excited, my hubbie thinks I'm nuts but feel like a really runner now

. Just one more to go and then they can grow back til DCM 2012 :cool:

Younganne · 24-01-2012 11:50AM

neilc wrote: »

What's the story, are they gone gone or do they grow back!!

Mr Slow wrote: »

The nail bed goes hard and they start to reappear, until your next marathon:D

i have lost my nails on numerous occasions and its not always from marathons just road running...it could just be a long run and when i get home i feel the blister starting under the toenail and therefore i will eventually lose it and another grow back......its not the worst thing that can happen, but i have often had to paint them very dark when wearing sandals to weddings etc..

Cutex wrote: »

Hi Anne

Really enjoying your log! Great to see you back running & enjoying it

I lost my first toenail at the weekend and was so excited, my hubbie thinks I'm nuts but feel like a really runner now . Just one more to go and then they can grow back til DCM 2012 :cool:

Cutex, you are a real runner...aren't you out running the roads!!!! Delighted to see you back at it too...
my hubby had given up on me now altogether...i was having my first "ice"* bath at the weekend and he just laughted at me...my 3 yr old daughter stayed with me and kept asking me if i was ok:D

*it wasn't really and ice bath just freezing cold:eek:

Cutex · 24-01-2012 02:07PM

I remember being hosed down out the backgarden by my hubbie after DCM and my 2 year old was the most concerned for me! Kept asking was I ok and telling her daddy to leave me alone

. I had to keep smiling through the freezingness of it all so she would be ok. She then tried to hug me but I was too wet for her - ah memories.....

RayCun · 24-01-2012 02:13PM

You are all completely insane

Younganne · 24-01-2012 02:35PM

RayCun wrote: »

You are all completely insane

+1 i agree Ray...last year i was happy just plodding my way round the roads doing a few miles....and then i discovered Boards(thanks Neilc;)) and now look at the madness that has taken over...:D.

Cutex, I told hubby on Sunday that some people get hosed down in the garden and he is willing to do that for me:eek:

Mr Slow · 24-01-2012 02:40PM

Younganne wrote: »

I told hubby on Sunday that some people get hosed down in the garden and he is willing to do that for me:eek:

What you do in the privacy of your own home is your own business :P

Younganne · 24-01-2012 02:42PM

but its in the garden:D:D, i might charge the neighbours...oh hang on i don't have neighbours;)

Younganne · 24-01-2012 03:19PM

Tuesday 24th - 3.23m in 31:02 @ 9.36 avg pace, 161 avg HB

My legs felt a bit tired starting off but by mile 3 they were fine, this should have been slower but i just went by feel and didn't look at the Garmin. tried to slow it sown coming in at the end but still overall too fast....
I found it very warm out today, but physically i'm tired so that might have been the reason....

Distance=avg pace/avg HB
m1=9.34/155
m2=9.46/165
m3=9.27/163
m.23=9.37/167

Totals:D
WTD: 3.23
MTD: 24.44
YTD: 24.44

jester1980 · 24-01-2012 03:24PM

Must try this ice bath technique, how long would you jump in for? Couldnt be more than a few minutes is it?

Sounds bloody awful anway but well worth it.

Cutex · 24-01-2012 04:10PM

Mr Slow wrote: »

What you do in the privacy of your own home is your own business :P

My inlaws were there too shaking their heads at my madness so no funny business involved - on that occasion.....

Cutex · 24-01-2012 04:13PM

Younganne wrote: »

+1 i agree Ray...last year i was happy just plodding my way round the roads doing a few miles....and then i discovered Boards(thanks Neilc;)) and now look at the madness that has taken over...:D.

Cutex, I told hubby on Sunday that some people get hosed down in the garden and he is willing to do that for me:eek:

Best bit is not having to climb out of the bath afterwards! Mine shows no mercy when I shout it's toooooo cooooooold, make sure yours is ready for the protests

Younganne · 24-01-2012 04:40PM

jester1980 wrote: »

Must try this ice bath technique, how long would you jump in for? Couldnt be more than a few minutes is it?

Sounds bloody awful anway but well worth it.

I wasn't sure what to do so stripped off the running gear as was soaked with sweat, threw on a fleece and was about to get in when i had a flash of inspiration:eek: and thought i don't want the hole whole

of my body to get too cold so stuck a pair of running short on and sat in it for 15 mins, and not a minute longer....the worst bit is the initial shock but i put a towel around my shoulders and stuck the ends of it into my mouth and screeched:eek: into it!!! i know i know i need to HTFU:rolleyes:...then i had a lovely hot shower:D

not even a niggle the next day so will definitely be doing it again...some people do it as a matter of course!!!

jester1980 · 24-01-2012 05:19PM

Thanks for that, ill give it a try on Sunday after my long run so, not sure if i'll get me in there for 15 mins though. Ill aim for 10 sure and see how long i last before i wuss out.

Marthastew · 24-01-2012 07:43PM

Younganne wrote: »

Martha, I was reading your log last night and you are clocking up some great mileage, fair play to you...i worked out in Dalkey years back and know those hills...no bother to you flying on those hills
QUOTE]

i'm just in the door from a run around those lovely Dalkey Hills, fabulous evening out but the hills don't seem to get any easier. It's amazing what we'll do to get a break from our kids:)

Mr Slow · 24-01-2012 09:26PM

jester1980 wrote: »

Must try this ice bath technique, how long would you jump in for? Couldnt be more than a few minutes is it?

Sounds bloody awful anway but well worth it.

If you jump in you could go into shock:eek:

Fill the bath with cold water to your waist (when sitting, obviously;)) gradually add about 2 large bags of ice from your local offie, then start the clock and watch the slowest 15 mins of your life pass by. You won't want to move around but if you don't, you won't get everything iced, I always wear shorts but if you wear a tshirt it's going to be very unpleasant removing it afterwards, wear a hat! Get out and dry your now solidified legs, put on compression tights or standard ones if you have them plus an outer layer (tracksuit) after about 20 mins have a nice warm shower, simples!

Younganne · 24-01-2012 09:33PM

Marthastew wrote: »

i'm just in the door from a run around those lovely Dalkey Hills, fabulous evening out but the hills don't seem to get any easier. It's amazing what we'll do to get a break from our kids:)

God Martha your kids can't be that bad;)..those hills are really mini mountains....and you're on them all the time...i used to have to walk them for work!!!! but then i used to pop in to the Dalkey Island Hotel for a break;);)

Younganne · 24-01-2012 09:35PM

Mr Slow wrote: »

If you jump in you could go into shock:eek:

Fill the bath with cold water to your waist (when sitting, obviously;)) gradually add about 2 large bags of ice from your local offie, then start the clock and watch the slowest 15 mins of your life pass by. You won't want to move around but if you don't, you won't get everything iced, I always wear shorts but if you wear a tshirt it's going to be very unpleasant removing it afterwards, wear a hat! Get out and dry your now solidified legs, put on compression tights or standard ones if you have them plus an outer layer (tracksuit) after about 20 mins have a nice warm shower, simples!

ahhhh, don't think i'll manage the ice just yet..i'll wait till the LSR become 15m+:o

Mr Slow · 24-01-2012 09:38PM

Younganne wrote: »

ahhhh, don't think i'll manage the ice just yet..i'll wait till the LSR become 1+:o

It's not much worse than cold water you just have 2 initial shocks instead of one!

RayCun · 25-01-2012 09:03AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6287210.stm

p l a c e b o
:pac:

Mr Slow · 25-01-2012 10:01AM

RayCun wrote: »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6287210.stm

p l a c e b o
:pac:

Forget about lactic acid that's gone after a few hours anyway, hard exercise causes micro tears and inflammation, ice helps reduce inflammation, simple as.

RayCun · 25-01-2012 10:18AM

Mr Slow wrote: »

Forget about lactic acid that's gone after a few hours anyway, hard exercise causes micro tears and inflammation, ice helps reduce inflammation, simple as.

But that's topical application, over a longer period of time. The evidence for 15 minute cold water/ice baths just isn't there.

Younganne · 25-01-2012 10:33AM

RayCun wrote: »

But that's topical application, over a longer period of time. The evidence for 15 minute cold water/ice baths just isn't there.

Mr Slow wrote: »

Forget about lactic acid that's gone after a few hours anyway, hard exercise causes micro tears and inflammation, ice helps reduce inflammation, simple as.

RayCun wrote: »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6287210.stm

p l a c e b o
:pac:

Its very interesting reading Ray, and the only good thing is it isn't doing any harm and it definitely helped my legs as Sundays 9.3m run was the longest run I have done since DCM and Monday i didn't have the tired legs...i'm putting that down to the cold bath.

However I did have very tired legs on Tuesday, now legs were tired but not stiff or sore anywhere so maybe it just delayed the tiredness....

I take it Mr Slow you use the ice bath therapy, Ray do you ever try them??

RayCun · 25-01-2012 10:38AM

Younganne wrote: »

I take it Mr Slow you use the ice bath therapy, Ray do you ever try them??

Mr Slow will try anything

I have more sense

Mr Slow · 25-01-2012 10:40AM

RayCun wrote: »

But that's topical application, over a longer period of time. The evidence for 15 minute cold water/ice baths just isn't there.

Meh, here's my evidence/testimonial,

'It helps me greatly to deal with D.O.M.S.' Mr. Slow Olympic Hopeful

Younganne wrote: »

I take it Mr Slow you use the ice bath therapy,

Absolutely!

Younganne · 25-01-2012 04:49PM

Wednesday 25th -5.47m in 0:55:20 @ avg pace 10.07/159 avg HB

The wind was very strong today and it really was a battle a some point on North road running straight into it, but at least it kept my pace down a bit....

m1=10.13/155
m2=10.29/162
m3=10.24/159
m4=10.13/159
m5=10.08/162
m.47=10.05/168

i thought this was a lot slower than it actually was...i was trying to keep it slow and just pulled it back when i felt like i was going too fast....i will have to work on the slower paces as my new 18 wk programm starts next week:eek:

Totals
WTD: 8.7
MTD: 29.91
YTD: 29.91

neilc · 25-01-2012 05:53PM

Younganne wrote: »

... as my new 18 wk programm starts next week:eek:

What'd ya go for in the end, Cork??

Younganne · 25-01-2012 09:28PM

neilc wrote: »

What'd ya go for in the end, Cork??

Hi Neil..planning Cork but haven't entered yet...entered Meath Spring half and will enter Cork the week after...decided on HH intermediate 2 plan in the end and hopefully will move up to P&D for DCM 2012!!

are you racing Sunday???

But its cold outside

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