WeightWatchers & "How Many ProPoints?" Thread MkII

ali85 · 21-01-2012 01:33AM

foundry wrote: »

Thinking of having bacon cabbage and white sauce over the weekend, home made of course.

Any know the pro points of two med slices of bacon/ham? or will I just go on weight on point it like sliced ham?

Also any recipes for a tasty white sauce?

I make a roux up with flour and butter usually.... but obviously WW version is needed...

try a small bit of butter... 1 points worth, equal amount of flour and add your milk slowly and let it thicken... I season with salt, pepper and parsley... just use bigger quantities if for more than one person.

I love parsley sauce on my ham, so I always have a little bit extra butter... (real butter! :P ) just as a treat for myself.... just remember to point it.

If you have nutmeg, a bit of that goes nicely too....

BaileyPants · 21-01-2012 10:56AM

maggimay wrote: »

MaggieMay2 wrote: »

Welcome back! YEa I know I started the 26pp last week and finding it a little tough TBH! They advise in their Easy Start that you use 3pp fpr milk a day?? So then your only down to 23pp for food. Leaves no room for error of any sort and just the 3 meals a day! Give it a week or so and see how it goes I guess. You must be delighted with only a pound up I know I would be....

hi Maggie may2 and m'lady i totally agree with you on the 26 point issue, i've been on the 26 for the past few weeks and missed last week's weigh in so this week i was dying to get to the scales yesterday cos i thought it'd be at least 3 or 4lbs down but it was only 1 for the two weeks and that was having earned 22 exercise points last week and 34 this week and using about half the weeklies both weeks. i don't use the exercise points by the way. but you're right it does feel harder, the 29 was comfortable and felt managable and i would lose at least 1lb a week on that.
what does everybody else on 26 feel about this????

My leader said that if ur comfortable and ur loosing weight on the 29 points it's up to u if ud prefer to stick to the 29 rather than move to the 26 :-)

messrs · 21-01-2012 11:13AM

Hi All, had my WI on Wed but was so upset and dis heartned that im only coming on here now. The previous week i had lost 1.5lbs and had reached my 3rd stone and was so happy. I only went back to work on Monday after been of for 2 months due to surgery - so ive started back drinking 2 liters of water every day and been doing 3-4 mile walk each nite so was looking forward to WI and then i went and i had put on 2lb :mad: really dont understand it as i didnt go over my points at all and did lots of exercise and drank water every day. I did have my TOTM but i finished that on the Tuesday and my WI was wed - so was kinda hoping that i was still carrying weigh from that -but i dont know. just very disapointed :mad::mad:

Kay_80 · 21-01-2012 11:20AM

Had WI this morning & was down 2lb

absolutely thrilled as I was afraid I'd hit a plateau

I'm now at my pre Xmas weight & 1.25lbs away from my pre NYC trip in December so I guess perserverence & switching up my routine this week helped alot!

Just on the 26 v 29 Baileypants pretty much posted what I was going to say

my understanding was that if you were on 29 per day & getting good losses & were happy with that no need to change - it was more for ppl who were on 29 not losing much & who felt they couldn't eat all their allowance anyway to have the option of dropping to 26.

If ye ladies were happy & losing on 29 why switch to 26 if you really miss the pp. I mean a leader is there to help & guide but to be honest their word is not gospel. Personally I'd really feel the drop of 3pp & the other 3pp for milk.

First off I'm lactose intolerant so don't drink milk I use Lactose free in cooking & on cereal but in my 31 yrs I've never drank milk or had it in tea/coffee & wouldnt be about to start now! Then the actual 3pp reduction in pp for food would be the points I use on my extras like olive oil or groundnut oil to cook / in salad dressing, the tsp of brown sugar I have on my porridge & the Mayo I might put on a sambo or stock cubes/ dried herbs for cooking. I can't abide spray oil & splenda is too artificial for me I rather a bit of real sugar or fruit if I want to sweeten.

I know if I dropped & I couldn't enjoy my food I would be narky, bored of eating bland food, feel like I'm on a diet & rebel! Therefore major drawback as far as I'm concerned. WW has to fit into my life not the other way around but each of us to our own what works for one doesn't necessarily work for another. Do what's right for your body (& mind & sanity!)

Kay_80 · 21-01-2012 11:27AM

Aww messers I know how disheartening it is when that happens. My guess is you were retaining fluid due to the excess water you were drinking & the sudden increase in your activity levels. If you were well within on food give in 2 weeks or so for your body to flush out the extra fluid & get used to the new activity levels - you've just gotten over your recovery from surgery so your body is probably rebelling & going agghh what's wrong & clinging on to fluids & cals if after 2 weeks you see no change Then maybe shoe your tracker to your leader. Don't be so hard on yourself you have been through surgery you can get through WW! Just have faith believe in yourself, keep up the tracking & the exercise & you will see results

Kay_80 · 21-01-2012 11:42AM

On the White sauce Foundry I make it exactly the same as Ali a good roux with flour & butter once that's melted & cooked in slowly add the milk while whisking then at the end some salt & pepper & a bit of nutmeg. You can't really sub the butter but you could use skimmed milk to bring down the pp a little bit

Baby75 · 21-01-2012 01:42PM

The Lasagna that was posted a few pages back had a white sauce recipe which was very tasty.
I normally make it one table spoon of butter, one table spoon of flour and 2ooml of skimmed milk. melt the butter add the flour, mix well lift off the heat and add milk slowly mixing to make a paste so you have no lumps. add seasoning salt pepper etc! I used low low butter in mine which worked out well, think it can be hit and miss with it sometimes in dishes!

I think for the Lasagna it was 40g of reduced fat spead, 40 grams of flour and 450ml of skimmed milk, one bay leaf (which added a lovely flavour to the sauce.

what spreads does every one else use in coooking!

Kay_80 what great advice! Im wondering if thats what been happening to me, my weight has been wildly up over the last two weeks and with all the extra exercise I have been doing and tracking, I expected a loss the last two weeks, instead was up last week and down a pound this week. could be Ill see a good loss soon I hope, but I've started measuring my waist etc so I can see hopefully inches lost even if the scales are not showing as quick!

maggimay · 21-01-2012 02:08PM

i'm glad to hear i'm not the only one feeling like this on the 26 but what i will do is give the 26 another week and if i'm still not happy i'm going to go back to my 29. Having said that just had a binge last night so next week's wi might not be the best to judge, i don't know if it's missing the 3 points but i felt very hard done by the last couple of days hence the stupid binge and wine to wash it down BUT today i'm back on track and will try an extra walk to try make up for last night and stir fry veg for lunch with 1/2 pack of Aldi microwave rice and a beaten egg through it (was yummy) 7 points. then some roasted veg sushi for dinner with a little treat thrown in just to keep me sane.

m'lady · 21-01-2012 03:24PM

Just a quick post as I'm in work (unfortunately!).. The daily mail have a lovely unislim book with recipes that obviously we can convert to pp if anyone wants to pick it up, some really nice ideas in it.

On the 26 v 29 pp, I think I'll continue with the 29, I just feel too deprived with the 26. However I'm going to start taking all my treats out of my weeklies so as to encourage me to eat proper food from my dailies!

Baby75 · 21-01-2012 03:25PM

maggimay wrote: »

i'm glad to hear i'm not the only one feeling like this on the 26 but what i will do is give the 26 another week and if i'm still not happy i'm going to go back to my 29. Having said that just had a binge last night so next week's wi might not be the best to judge, i don't know if it's missing the 3 points but i felt very hard done by the last couple of days hence the stupid binge and wine to wash it down BUT today i'm back on track and will try an extra walk to try make up for last night and stir fry veg for lunch with 1/2 pack of Aldi microwave rice and a beaten egg through it (was yummy) 7 points. then some roasted veg sushi for dinner with a little treat thrown in just to keep me sane.

AH one day wont ruin it that's what the 49 weeklies are there for, any way if you don't allow one day were you can eat something you really fancy, I think it becomes to hard to maintain! its all about balance!

Guess this week WI will be the decider for many on if to change back to 29 or not! why they change it if it was working so well for so many!

m'lady · 21-01-2012 03:26PM

Bernso wrote: »

Audi driver wrote: »

I agree about d 26 pp, was doing really well on d 29 pp, was losing at least 2 a week, changed to 26 pp last week& I only lost 1!! Was well disappointed because exercised everyday last week, diidnt use d activity pp, didn't use any of d 49 a week& still only down 1 pound!!! Baffling!!

Same as ladies. Was down a pound and a half on the 26pp week one. That was three 5k runs, 2 4k walks and no weeklies used.
Pointing milk at 2pp a day as not having it in cereal only skim in coffees.
Really finding it strict whereas the 29pp was a bit comfier.
Felt like I should be down 3 with new regime but next week will tell alot.

See they're re-introducing the core plan next week under healthy & filling food option too? Not for me tho as I loves my bread in the am and pitta at lunch. The core is quite like slimming world. Not for me but suits mums I think really well as less counting and can eat with the family more from feedback.

Oh are they reintroducing the core plan? Interesting.. It's difficult but I lost every week I did it a few years ago, might give it a bash! Did ur leader tell u it was coming back?

lisa_celtic · 21-01-2012 03:40PM

m'lady wrote: »

Bernso wrote: »

Audi driver wrote: »

I agree about d 26 pp, was doing really well on d 29 pp, was losing at least 2 a week, changed to 26 pp last week& I only lost 1!! Was well disappointed because exercised everyday last week, diidnt use d activity pp, didn't use any of d 49 a week& still only down 1 pound!!! Baffling!!

Same as ladies. Was down a pound and a half on the 26pp week one. That was three 5k runs, 2 4k walks and no weeklies used.
Pointing milk at 2pp a day as not having it in cereal only skim in coffees.
Really finding it strict whereas the 29pp was a bit comfier.
Felt like I should be down 3 with new regime but next week will tell alot.

See they're re-introducing the core plan next week under healthy & filling food option too? Not for me tho as I loves my bread in the am and pitta at lunch. The core is quite like slimming world. Not for me but suits mums I think really well as less counting and can eat with the family more from feedback.

Oh are they reintroducing the core plan? Interesting.. It's difficult but I lost every week I did it a few years ago, might give it a bash! Did ur leader tell u it was coming back?

What's the core plan?

tiny_penguin · 21-01-2012 04:44PM

So proud of myself! Went out last night and got beyond drunk, but only on vodka and diet cokes and when me and the OH went to Burger King I didnt get anything except a diet coke which I didnt even drink! I can never say no to burger king when I am that drunk (chilli cheese bites are amazing). But i sat there and watched him eat it. Used up 29 of my weeklies on the vodka though (think i may have counted 2 extra drinks that I didnt have but leaving them in there just in case, 12 drinks seems like more than I would ever drink). So think im gonna leave the other 20 and not have any more!

Just gonna post 2 more recipes on my blog, both using chorizo if you like it :-)

Jellorous · 21-01-2012 05:09PM

ok so I went to my weigh in last week and I had gained 2 pounds

I was absolutely gutted but I guess I couldn't really make excuse as I'd been so lazy with pointing everything since Christmas! But I'm back on track now! Been pointing everything everyday and exercising! I think I'm more motivated now because I've just booked my j1 for the summer! I'm going over on june 5th so that gives me another 19 weeks to lose another 33 pounds... even if I don't get to my goal weight I'd still be super happy if I could lose another 20-25.. I just wanna be comfortable in my bathing suit all summer!! eek.. so nervous!!

agrif06 · 21-01-2012 05:32PM

lisa_celtic wrote: »

What's the core plan?

You can eat as much as you want (until satisfied) from a list of foods without having to point them - examples of foods on core plan are lean meat, poultry, fish, eggs, fruit, veg, fat free dairy, wholewheat pasta, brown rice, potatoes and grains. You also get a weekly propoints allowance that you can use on foods not on the list.

lisa_celtic · 21-01-2012 06:06PM

agrif06 wrote: »

lisa_celtic wrote: »

What's the core plan?

You can eat as much as you want (until satisfied) from a list of foods without having to point them - examples of foods on core plan are lean meat, poultry, fish, eggs, fruit, veg, fat free dairy, wholewheat pasta, brown rice, potatoes and grains. You also get a weekly propoints allowance that you can use on foods not on the list.

Oh ya the filling and healthy options, read about that on the uk site

I'm way over points today but what are birth-weekends for lol

Danii86 · 21-01-2012 06:06PM

on the white sauce issue.....a good trick is to make it with cornflour instead of butter and flour, lots of restaurants do this to make sauces ceoliac friendly. basically bring some skimmed milk to the boil. mix about 1/2tsp of cornflour with some water to make a paste and then add it into the boiling milk while whisking. it does need more seasoning than the traditional roux sauce but it works well and with less points!!!

ynul31f47k6b59 · 21-01-2012 09:55PM

foundry wrote: »

Thinking of having bacon cabbage and white sauce over the weekend, home made of course.

Any know the pro points of two med slices of bacon/ham? or will I just go on weight on point it like sliced ham?

Also any recipes for a tasty white sauce?

Bacon is a favourite in our house, so I've pointed pretty much every brand that can be bought pre-packed, and they all work out much the same - 4pp per 100g cooked (which is loads). Enjoy!

intouch44 · 21-01-2012 10:28PM

Have completely fallen off the wagon, had a load of chocolate and crisps today- works out at 30 of the weeklies gone, actually feel sick I've eaten so much- just so much junk in the house I couldn't control myself

Have my first proper weigh in this week after officially re-joining last week, hope I haven't fecked it up!! The leader said not to be afraid of the weeklies but still feel guilty!!!

del88 · 21-01-2012 10:45PM

Can anyone explain how the pro points in beer is calculated.

I've read on a few web sites and the pro points booklet that 500ml can of heineken is 6pro points yet when i calculate the pro points from it's nutritional value i get to 2!! pro points.

Lager - 500ml (Heineken)
Serving Size: 1 can (500 ml), Calories: 220, Fat: 0g, Carbs: 15g, Protein: 0g

I've checked 4 diffrent sources and they all say 15g of carbs in a 500ml can.

I'm hoping i can make more of my weeklies

:D

Kay_80 · 21-01-2012 11:09PM

Sorry you can't make more of your weeklies! You can't calculate the pp accurately on alcohol based on the NI as not enough info is given on the label. It's to do with the sugar alcohols it skews the NI & gives an unnaturally low pp value go by the pp in your purple book the shop & eating out guide. Your leader can give you a full list of alcohol pp if you want

Kay_80 · 21-01-2012 11:12PM

Just in case some of you don't have this. Here's the pp for alcohol I got last year

Wine

100ml,125ml,175ml,250ml,750ml

Red wine 2,3,4,6,19
Dry white 2,3,3,6,18
Med white 3,3,5,7,20
Sweet white 3,4,6,8,25
Rose 3,3,4,6,19
Sparkling 3,3,4,6,19
Champagne 3,3,5,7,20

Alcohol and ProPoints
Bacardi Breezer 4 ProPoints per bottle
Coors light 4 ProPoints per bottle
Bulmers Light 4 ProPoints per 330ml bottle
Kopperburg cider 8 ProPoints per bottle
Cider sweet 8 ProPoints per pint
Cider dry 7 ProPoints per pint
Guinness 6 ProPoints per pint
Lager 6 ProPoints per pint
Lager 3 ProPoints per bottle (330ml)
Lager Low alcohol 1 ProPoints per bottle
Heineken 5 ProPoints per 330ml bottle
Miller 5 ProPoints per 330ml bottle
Spirits (Vodka, brandy, gin, rum whiskey) 3 ProPoints per 35ml (Irish pub measure)
Baileys 6 ProPoints per 50ml
Sherry 2 ProPoints per 50ml
Port 3 ProPoints per 50ml
Schnappes 4 ProPoints per 35ml
Please note-
 You cannot work out the ProPoints of alcohol yourself as there is not enough information on the label.
 Please note that Coors light is NOT a low alcohol beer and therefore is not 1 ProPoint as some members have been thinking. Coors light is a full strength beer and works out as 4 ProPoints per bottle.
 Also remember that UK and Irish pub measures are different. Standard Irish measures are 35ml and so are higher in ProPoints than UK measures.

ynul31f47k6b59 · 22-01-2012 12:22AM

intouch44 wrote: »

Have completely fallen off the wagon, had a load of chocolate and crisps today- works out at 30 of the weeklies gone, actually feel sick I've eaten so much- just so much junk in the house I couldn't control myself

Have my first proper weigh in this week after officially re-joining last week, hope I haven't fecked it up!! The leader said not to be afraid of the weeklies but still feel guilty!!!

Don't worry about it! I've lost 2 stone 6 so far and I've used every single one of my weeklies every week since I joined last June - I actually find it better to get rid of my weeklies between Friday and Saturday, I find I'm extra good during the week then. Don't beat yourself up about it!

del88 wrote: »

Can anyone explain how the pro points in beer is calculated.

I've read on a few web sites and the pro points booklet that 500ml can of heineken is 6pro points yet when i calculate the pro points from it's nutritional value i get to 2!! pro points.

Lager - 500ml (Heineken)
Serving Size: 1 can (500 ml), Calories: 220, Fat: 0g, Carbs: 15g, Protein: 0g

I've checked 4 diffrent sources and they all say 15g of carbs in a 500ml can.

I'm hoping i can make more of my weeklies :D

Haha I'd love to make more of my weeklies, but a 500ml can of Heineken is 6pp, unfortunately. Coors Light is 4pp per bottle, if that helps!

lisa_celtic · 22-01-2012 12:35AM

All but one weekly used today was fun... Now how to get through tomorrow with out eating the rest of the cake!! Begging for a sts this week then work hard and be at goal asap it's doable in 7weeks if I was to be an angle... 14 weeks would even do seen the scales dropping keeps me motivated!

ynul31f47k6b59 · 22-01-2012 12:56AM

lisa_celtic wrote: »

All but one weekly used today was fun... Now how to get through tomorrow with out eating the rest of the cake!! Begging for a sts this week then work hard and be at goal asap it's doable in 7weeks if I was to be an angle... 14 weeks would even do seen the scales dropping keeps me motivated!

Lisa if you've got time tonight, plan a food plan for tomorrow - just stick to it and think of the goal!! Best of luck xxx

ShindyB · 22-01-2012 01:04PM

Right, so weekend away is coming to a close. Had a great time, the place was gorgeous and the food was fab! I wasn't very good food-wise but do you know what I don't care! It was my 'holiday' for the year and also celebrating exam results so screw it! Alcohol wise I was very well behaved though - only had about 4 glasses of wine over the whole weekend and one vodka. For some reason it didn't appeal to me as much as usual!
Had the veggie option for dinner last night, butternut squash, sweet pepper and mozzarella wellington: Frigging gorgeous!!! Only had a bite of my dessert cause I was stuffed!
Back to the grind stone now. Well done to all on their losses. Here's to another good week!

tiny_penguin · 22-01-2012 01:49PM

Just back from the gym and I cheated and weighed myself there! And it says I'm down 4lbs! We'll see on tuesday but I really hope its right cos I have been working so hard!

Also am back in my jeans again, they are too tight and I do have to wear a loose top to cover the muffin top. But the fact they are too small is more motivating than wearing my usual baggy clothes all the time.

newbee22 · 22-01-2012 04:23PM

Weighed myself today, only down 1.5lbs since December:mad: I really don't understand it, my clothes are way looser, most of my size 12 jeans are too big for me now, eating within in my points, exercising loads, FML! Was so proud of myself until I stepped onto the stupid scales!

maggimay · 22-01-2012 06:25PM

tiny_penguin wrote: »

Just back from the gym and I cheated and weighed myself there! And it says I'm down 4lbs! We'll see on tuesday but I really hope its right cos I have been working so hard!

Also am back in my jeans again, they are too tight and I do have to wear a loose top to cover the muffin top. But the fact they are too small is more motivating than wearing my usual baggy clothes all the time.

oh yay what a great feeling being able to get into something that wouldnt go on before this is what makes it all worthwhile CONGRATS

ShindyB · 22-01-2012 08:17PM

newbee22 wrote: »

Weighed myself today, only down 1.5lbs since December:mad: I really don't understand it, my clothes are way looser, most of my size 12 jeans are too big for me now, eating within in my points, exercising loads, FML! Was so proud of myself until I stepped onto the stupid scales!

Non-scales victories are what we're all aiming for in a way - fitting into your clothes and feeling fab are signs that you're doing something right! Don't get so hung up on the figures. I've only lost 3 pounds but was defo more toned and confident in my clothes this weekend. Keep it up newbee!

WeightWatchers & "How Many ProPoints?" Thread MkII

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