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  • #92
    [Deleted User]
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    MrMojoRisin wrote: »
    Dre, I find myself wondering what exactly you're seeking on this forum.


    It's as if all allegedly paranormal experiences need to be immediately and viciously dissected for the purpose of eliminating their potential validity.


    Well yeah it is. Somebody has a symptom posts in it on the forum and we give our thoughts. Im never vicious, im a puppy dog.

    If somebody says i saw a ghost of a woman standing in the kitchen. Well what can you say about that ?

    If somebody says there is a light flickering in my kitchen and my TV turns itself on, I will say check an electrician.

    If you want more people to come onto the forum you should just banned all criticism.


  • #93
    [Deleted User]
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    dyer wrote: »
    while i did rofl at his post, i think its extremely narrow minded, but if hes just taking the piss, its comical genius ;)


    That post was based on actual events names have been changed to protect the posters.


  • #94
    fcussen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭fcussen


    Belief in the paranormal is fully deserving of ridicule and here's an example of why: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jan/17/witchcraft-trial-tortured-boy-drowned?newsfeed=true


  • #95
    Riamfada
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    fcussen wrote: »
    Belief in the paranormal is fully deserving of ridicule and here's an example of why: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jan/17/witchcraft-trial-tortured-boy-drowned?newsfeed=true

    Are you saying that people here who have an interest in the paranormal and the unexplained are Akin to mentally deranged murderers.


  • #96
    fcussen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭fcussen


    For thousands of years natural disasters, pestilence, crop failures and what have you were seen (by even the most educated) as being caused by witches, Jews, our sinful behaviour and so forth. We know better now but plenty of people still insist on seeing a wild exciting off the wall explanation for things when there is a perfectly boring mundane one.

    The witch murder trial is an extreme example, but there are other ways in this kind of thing is harmful: e.g. belief in miracles causing people to visit faith healers instead of doctors.

    I'm still trying to get over the guy who saw a pack of Limerick scobes five minutes walk away from my front door and believed them to be a Banshee and the hooded spectres of the Celtic warriors. (This entire area was built in the 1970s btw):

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=75011326#post75011326


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  • #97
    maccored
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,788 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    it amazes me in this day and age how people still confuse witchcraft and religion with the paranormal.


  • #98
    maccored
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,788 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    He didnt mention banshees or celtic warriors once. You must be psychic or something, considering you even worked it was 'limerick scobes' without the relevant information. Can y ou remind me of when the 'entire area' was built has to do with anything? (Im sure something existed there before the 'entire area was built'.)
    fcussen wrote: »
    I'm still trying to get over the guy who saw a pack of Limerick scobes five minutes walk away from my front door and believed them to be a Banshee and the hooded spectres of the Celtic warriors. (This entire area was built in the 1970s btw):

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=75011326#post75011326


  • #99
    fcussen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭fcussen


    maccored wrote: »
    He didnt mention banshees or celtic warriors once. You must be psychic or something, considering you even worked it was 'limerick scobes' without the relevant information. Can y ou remind me of when the 'entire area' was built has to do with anything? (Im sure something existed there before the 'entire area was built'.)

    I just checked the local history and they built my estate on an Indian burial ground.

    I have plenty of information in that I know the area that guy was talking about, I know some of the type of people who live there. I've walked through there at 2, 3, 4 am myself many times. If I saw a woman in a dressing gown and some lads hanging around with hoods up I would not presume there was a supernatural explanation. He did the right thing running away but that's because he was probably about to get robbed and have the sh*t kicked out of him not because his soul was about to be dragged to the underworld


  • #100
    Oryx
    Subscribers Posts: 19,421 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    fcussen wrote: »
    I just checked the local history and they built my estate on an Indian burial ground.

    I have plenty of information in that I know the area that guy was talking about, I know some of the type of people who live there. I've walked through there at 2, 3, 4 am myself many times. If I saw a woman in a dressing gown and some lads hanging around with hoods up I would not presume there was a supernatural explanation. He did the right thing running away but that's because he was probably about to get robbed and have the sh*t kicked out of him not because his soul was about to be dragged to the underworld
    Fair enough, but the correct way to respond to a thread like that is to say 'dya think it might have been some auld scobes hanging around? And if not, why not?' Instead of the inference above to his idiocy at imagining banshees etc, which he never actually said. He just posted it as something odd, which spooked him. Without asking further youre just guessing at what he thought it was.


  • #101
    [Deleted User]
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    Oryx wrote: »
    Fair enough, but the correct way to respond to a thread like that is to say 'dya think it might have been some auld scobes hanging around? And if not, why not?' Instead of the inference above to his idiocy at imagining banshees etc, which he never actually said. He just posted it as something odd, which spooked him. Without asking further youre just guessing at what he thought it was.


    So would it be ok to ask was he drinking that night , if so how much ? Did you take any drugs that night ? Why did you fell the need to post in the paranormal forum ?


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  • #102
    Oryx
    Subscribers Posts: 19,421 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Deleted User wrote: »
    So would it be ok to ask was he drinking that night , if so how much ? Did you take any drugs that night ? Why did you fell the need to post in the paranormal forum ?
    As long as its not done like a witch hunt. Tone comes through in posts, if you are being disparaging, that's what is off putting, not the questions per se.

    And in that case the need to post it here is obvious. Its a scary story, end of. It all comes back to the charter. Dont hound someone for proof, sometimes a scary tale is just that. One of the best threads here would be ruined if every post was questioned and the poster ridiculed.


  • #103
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    Oryx wrote: »
    As long as its not done like a witch hunt. Tone comes through in posts, if you are being disparaging, that's what is off putting, not the questions per se.

    And in that case the need to post it here is obvious. Its a scary story, end of. It all comes back to the charter. Dont hound someone for proof, sometimes a scary tale is just that. One of the best threads here would be ruined if every post was questioned and the poster ridiculed.

    Tones can and most of the time be misinterpreted. If you are angry and you read a post, you will read it angry.


  • #104
    Oryx
    Subscribers Posts: 19,421 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Tones can and most of the time be misinterpreted. If you are angry and you read a post, you will read it angry.
    Then make sure not to leave yours open to misinterpretation.


  • #105
    maccored
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,788 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    the post being referred to was in after hours, not the paranormal forum.
    Deleted User wrote: »
    So would it be ok to ask was he drinking that night , if so how much ? Did you take any drugs that night ? Why did you fell the need to post in the paranormal forum ?


  • #106
    maccored
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,788 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    None of what you said there makes your last post any more readable. You're doing well on the research end if you end up with an indian burial ground (or was that just really bad sarcasm?). my point is - what the hell does it matter what was built where? whats that got to do with anything paranormal in the first place.

    You could easily have said yer man just needed a bit of common sense instead of pretending you knew what was happening.

    then again, sure anyone who has any interest in the paranormal is a fool in your book ....... anyone who reckons they can foretell the ins and outs of someones experiences due to a post on boards is a fool in my book.
    fcussen wrote: »
    I just checked the local history and they built my estate on an Indian burial ground.

    I have plenty of information in that I know the area that guy was talking about, I know some of the type of people who live there. I've walked through there at 2, 3, 4 am myself many times. If I saw a woman in a dressing gown and some lads hanging around with hoods up I would not presume there was a supernatural explanation. He did the right thing running away but that's because he was probably about to get robbed and have the sh*t kicked out of him not because his soul was about to be dragged to the underworld


  • #107
    fcussen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭fcussen


    Despite how irritated I was when I first read that guy's idiotic post and the jeepers creepers response to it, I did try to ignore it and let the credulous babies have their bottle until I saw it mentioned again on this forum:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056504701


  • #108
    Oryx
    Subscribers Posts: 19,421 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    fcussen wrote: »
    Despite how irritated I was when I first read that guy's idiotic post and the jeepers creepers response to it, I did try to ignore it and let the credulous babies have their bottle until I saw it mentioned again on this forum:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056504701

    Youll always find things on the internet that irritate you. But when its here, just remember you can disagree or not believe, but you still must stick to the rules of the charter and allow everyone else to post their stuff whether its idiotic to you, or not.


  • #109
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    Oryx wrote: »
    Youll always find things on the internet that irritate you. But when its here, just remember you can disagree or not believe, but you still must stick to the rules of the charter and allow everyone else to post their stuff whether its idiotic to you, or not.

    How come none of this is happening on the psychic forums? I mean some people are posting up there that they visited a psychic and they are great. Other people are posting up that the same psychic is fake. Yet there


  • #110
    Oryx
    Subscribers Posts: 19,421 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Deleted User wrote: »
    How come none of this is happening on the psychic forums? I mean some people are posting up there that they visited a psychic and they are great. Other people are posting up that the same psychic is fake. Yet there
    By definition, the psychics and mediums forum is about opinion, there has to be a balance allowed. Posters that come on and make sweeping statements 'they're all fake' will still get in bother.


  • #111
    [Deleted User]
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    Oryx wrote: »
    By definition, the psychics and mediums forum is about opinion, there has to be a balance allowed. Posters that come on and make sweeping statements 'they're all fake' will still get in bother.


    Psychic = subject. People give their opinions. Some people say they are good and some people say they are cheating. Yet on the paranormal forum we have to word what we say because some people are sensitive (excuse the pun)


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  • #112
    midlands paranormal researcher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 ✭midlands paranormal researcher


    quick question a friend once asked why do people only go ghost hunting at night whats wrong at going durning the day


  • #113
    GodlessM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭GodlessM


    midlands paranormal researcher wrote: »
    quick question a friend once asked why do people only go ghost hunting at night whats wrong at going durning the day

    This is indeed a big problem. I'm not necessarily a believer, but certainly not a skeptic either, I'd say 'open to possibility if convincing' is accurate. But despite that I respect that some people do believe and some of them are truly serious about finding answers while trying to maintain level headed about it. I feel sorry for those people because others who use stigmas such as the lights out thing make the entire field look bad. Same can be said for the skeptics; so many of them would dismiss things on a whim, but it doesn't mean all of them are ignorant, much like those with overly active imaginations don't make all believers into gullible idgits.

    It's not just the lights out thing that bothers me though, it is the rake of other things that are assumed, like EMF and cold spots. People say the theory is such and such and research has shown this and that, but how can there be theories and research about something that has not been proven to exist yet? I think the serious guys who don't deserve the stereotypical flakk are the guys that go out with simple video and audio and see what they can see; our senses are the best tools we have, and they are the one thing we should trust.

    If ghosts are meant to be the disembodied energy of people long gone (and that's not even a fact per se), why do we assume that they would be anything other than people after death? Why do we assume they need massive amounts of energy to manifest, or that they would decide only the show up as flat images blurry on a wall? Why would we assume they randomly attack people and spontaineously become evil after death, and more so why on earth would they decide only to come out at night? I respect 'ghost hunting' as a theoretical field of research, but only when it remembers that key word 'theoretical', because applying anything we know to something we don't know seems a little silly to me. I believe what I see, and I see what my eyes show me is actually there, not what my mind may want to believe.


  • #114
    maccored
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,788 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    midlands paranormal researcher wrote: »
    quick question a friend once asked why do people only go ghost hunting at night whats wrong at going durning the day

    Most people work during the day, or the place they wish to investigate is being used in some way or another. Plus its usually much quieter at night.

    Sometimes it just isnt practical to 'investigate' somewhere during the day - but other than that, theres nothing to suggest paranormal things only happen at night.

    What really gets me is whats the story with using infra red? Hows that meant to catch a ghosty?

    We dont do the whole 'lights out' thing. Very hard to see where yer going in the dark.


  • #115
    maccored
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    GodlessM wrote: »
    People say the theory is such and such and research has shown this and that, but how can there be theories and research about something that has not been proven to exist yet?

    You may have that backwards. You cant prove anything until you research it first.

    This is an interesting experiment. The em field was datalogged whilst a medium was 'communicating'.

    I think the data collected and displayed is intriguing. (It doesnt go into any dicsussion on mediums per se btw - just the details of the experiment and screen shots of the data)

    http://spinvestigations.org/Medium_Experiment.pdf


  • #116
    GodlessM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭GodlessM


    maccored wrote: »
    You may have that backwards. You cant prove anything until you research it first.

    No I don't have it backward at all. There's a difference between research and investigation for one. Furthermore you've taken what I said completely wrong; I have basically said that you can't have research that proves such and such about subject A if you don't know if subject A even exists. All research isn't all under one umbrella; the investigation to find the existence of subject A (the ghost) is completely different to the research into the properties exhibited by subject A (cold spots, EMF, etc.).

    I am on about when people say things like, 'research has shown that ghosts need to collect energy to manifest themselves, and when this energy is taken from the air around it, it creates a cold spot.' The point I'm making is, how can someone make such a statement, when they haven't proven first that the ghost even exists. They find a cold spot, fine. And they don't find a draft or any other cause, fine. But going from that to 'a ghost is sucking the heat out of the air to manifest' is a huge leap, and yet people say research has proven this as fact.


  • #117
    maccored
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,788 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    ive never heard anyone proclaiming that research shows ghosts need energy to manifest, to be honest. Ive heard people say that it is one of many postulations put forward ... but there obviously isnt any research that proves anything of the sort. If you hear people talking like that, I'd take it with a pinch of salt.

    Still - that shouldn't deter people from actually researching the paranormal.


  • #118
    GodlessM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭GodlessM


    maccored wrote: »
    ive never heard anyone proclaiming that research shows ghosts need energy to manifest, to be honest. Ive heard people say that it is one of many postulations put forward ... but there obviously isnt any research that proves anything of the sort. If you hear people talking like that, I'd take it with a pinch of salt.

    Still - that shouldn't deter people from actually researching the paranormal.

    I've heard several people claim as such in the past, mostly on these boards in fact. As for salt, I wouldn't even take the pinch, because as you said, these are just postulations.

    And I totally agree on your last point, in fact that was part of the point of my longer post earlier. There are people that take the level headed approach and are serious and unbiased about this field, and more power to them that they maintain that despite the countless people who make the field look bad with their over-eager antics.


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