Kerry GAA Discussion Thread Mod Warning Post #4167

margio wrote: »

he's too incosistent, there is no in between with him. he's either total sh**te or he's good. It's about time Padraig Reidy was brought reblended in to the first 15. Jack O'Connor has his favourites, there's no doubt about that.

It's not inconsistency in so far as he improves as the year goes on. There's a very prescient saying I've heard coming from some very well respected Kerry football people which essentially amounts to "The closer Kerry get to Croke Park the closer Tom Sullivan gets to his man".

As far as Padraig Reidy is concerned he hasn't been good enough at senior level. I remember a few years ago seeing him destroyed by no better a footballer than Monaghan's Ciaran Hanratty and I realised it was time to stop defending him, he simply hasn't brought his underage promise through to senior level the way Killian Young has.

The fact that he's been passed out in the running by the likes of Shane Enright, Bohane and even Aidan O'Mahony says plenty, as does the fact that the selectors felt more confident moving Killian Young back into the fullback line and taking Eoin Brosnan out of retirement than they did playing Reidy at corner back.

Any many a time Tom O'Sullivan got destroyed, as did even Killian Young(who I think is brilliant). some great players coming through still, even if Kerry haven't won a minor title in years.

keane2097 wrote: »

I'm no fan of Jack but that's a fairly ridiculous statement to be honest. Some players flourish under certain managers and vice versa, it's down to the players to get their heads down and get on with it.

You're not exactly talking about a future Hall of Famer in Reidy, so if he can't step up to the mark then I'm afraid I'd be saying tough tbh, I'd rather lose him than lose a manager who has been as successful as Jack for all his flaws.

He can rate himself successful until he beats a great Tyrone team in an all ireland. He couldn't even get us over the line against Dublin.

Prop Joe wrote: »

Tom Sullivan is possibly the greatest man marker to ever play the game,And i will not stand for anyone slating him..In my eyes he is up there with Dara & Seamus

Hardly. mike mc yes but not tom sull

margio wrote: »

Hardly. mike mc yes but not tom sull

Did Tom Sullivan give you an ASBO or something?

Bohane is a guy that badly needs to get some game time in the NFL. He has fierce physical attributes but is still really raw at Intercounty level.

A decent spell of fitness and a few games on the trot could really see him kick on. Fingers crossed for him.

Enright should nail down a place this season as well if he continues his form from last year's championship before he got injured, looks a really good player. I don't know a whole lot about Crowley other than that he's supposed to be very talented as well.

There's certainly room for some young backs to stake a claim.

lala88 wrote: »

What games do you be watching? Tom Sullivan has played almost 70 Championship games so he must be doing something right

yeah but he shouldn't have that many behind him, some players on that team are immune from been dropped. Jack has his pets. Be honest, many a time especially in the last few years, the boy has been destroyed

margio wrote: »

yeah but he shouldn't have that many behind him, some players on that team are immune from been dropped. Jack has his pets. Be honest, many a time especially in the last few years, the boy has been destroyed

Examples?

plus he is very weak under the high ball, but unfortunately most of them are

margio wrote: »

All through 2010, ok he got man of match in Kerry's supportes eyes in 2009, not sure about official man of match though, but the lead up games earlier on he was crap. That's why it was graet to see him get it at his age, when people were asking questions.Remember i think it was 2009, when Kerry played Cork in the all ireland semi final, and Cork came back from something like a 10 pt deficit, he had alot to do with that. ok he had a good enough year last year, but she shouldn't be an automatic starter, unless he's better than the guys on the bench. Justvheard last week on Radio Kerry that He got a bit of a roasting from a Currow guy in an east kerry game

Any specific examples?

margio wrote: »

read the post, i gave specific examples. the day of the 10 point deficit he and diarmuid murphy caused Masters goal. looking in the news papers now, yes he got a roasting in last weeks club game alrite. The guy who gave it to him is no intercounty star

Two examples in a career spanning 70-odd intercounty games and countless club games?

Well done.

The fact remains that he is a highly regarded defender with two All-Stars.

I'm sorry, I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree, I prefer a man that can get the job done without fouling. Good Free takers can win games. plus he's very susceptible to fatal errors. He had a good all ireland final but he made a vital handpass error that led to Dublin's victory in the last few minutes

lala88 wrote: »

He got the official Man of the Match in 09. Its some going that Kerry & Cork played each other in the 09 semi final and final

oh yeah sorry, checked there, It was 2008 it the Cork kerry epic, the years are flying