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MonkeyTennis wrote: »

Sure what would the guys that were on the pitch at the time know?

like evra?

carlcon wrote: »

Oh right yeah, jovially pointing out the distinct lack of racial harmony within the Spanish FA, and the countless times a black player has come home from an away game in Spain racially abused says everything, doesn't it?

I can't believe that supporters from ANY club can be so blindly tolerant of a racist just to save face. It's a truly damning indictment of football fans in general. And I hate that being one puts me in the same bag as these people.

Non-football fans around the world are laughing at us all right now.

So your original comment was against the Spanish FA cause it certainly sounded like you meant all Spanish people with your broad sweeping statement .
The same sort of mindset that the majority of numpties will use and label Suarez a racist .

mike65 wrote: »

Hillsborough is all I'll say about that. 22 years later and there are still people who believe the Suns/police version of events. The public are largely lard arsed and lazy, accepting whatever they are fed by popular media.

I do believe that to a certain extent but overall people know the score with Hillsborough but just love to wind up LFC support. It's really really sad and small time but there you are.

unexpected, one wonders if the Doyler might get told off.

Kevin_Doyle29 Kevin Doyle
Think that it's great Liverpool players are wearing t-shirts in support of their teammate Suarez. Also backing him for the #20000thPLgoal

naughtb4 wrote: »

To call him a despicable human being is too far

when did i do that?

Uruguay unites behind Luis Suárez after 'excessive, absurd' ban

• Football federation offers legal backing through embassy
• 'This leaves bad feeling' says national director of sport
Sid Lowe
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 21 December 2011 17.58 GMT

Luis Suárez played a major role in Uruguay's capture of the Copa América in July and the national football association stated 'its total solidarity and support' for their striker.

"Exaggerated, absurd and out of place." That was the verdict of Uruguay's national director of sport as Luis Suárez's eight-game ban became a matter of state. Players, coaches, media and the government have come out in support of the Liverpool striker, while the national football federation has offered legal backing through the Uruguayan embassy in London. The striker Sebastián Abreu insisted that Suárez has "3 million Uruguayans behind him" and the former international Richard Morales, who is black, insisted: "[Patrice] Evra should not play at being Padre Popelka." Father Ernesto Popelka is a revered former footballer, priest and psychologist.

"This [ban] leaves a bad feeling," said Ernesto Irureta, the national director of sport. "What is happening in Europe is a product of their [wider] problems, not of what happens between players – and one of those is racism. That reflects a lack of values in society. We have a country with [racial] differences but it is a long way from those in the Old Continent [Europe]. Suárez may act with words or gestures in certain moments but this ban is exaggerated, absurd and out of place."

Celso Otero, assistant to the Uruguay coach, Oscar Tabárez, described the ban as "excessive" and sought to reassure Suárez that his position with the national team "has not changed in the slightest". The captain, Diego Lugano, said: "I cannot believe it: this is a huge error that is being made. Obviously in England there is a problem with racism and they are trying to eradicate it, which is good, but this [ban] has no solid base. Luis is a victim." The national football association reiterated its "total solidarity and support" for Suárez.

A failure to allow for different cultural interpretations was at the heart of much of the criticism in a country where one newspaper ran with a huge front-page headline that simply said: "Irrational". Uruguayans do not see the use of "negro" or "negrito" to be offensive at all and Marcelo Tejera, who played for Southampton, bemoaned "a campaign to push [Suárez] out to another league".

"They [Uruguay and England] are different cultures. For us [what was said] is normal and it doesn't affect you," said Morales. "They're making a drama out of something that for us is entirely natural. But England is totally different. The only thing [Suárez] could have got wrong is not knowing that. And in any case, you have to be sure whether or not [Suárez] actually said it. Evra shouldn't play at being Father Popelka, because he's nothing like him."

Gustavo Poyet called the ban a "fiasco". Poyet drew parallels between this case and the incident at Stamford Bridge when Evra made accusations of racism against a Chelsea steward. "This is very worrying," he said. "It could happen to me or to anyone tomorrow. I could find myself in a defenceless position based on what just one person claims I have said. [After the Stamford Bridge incident] nothing was proven and no one believed [Evra]. I imagine he's happy now."

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