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Windows Phone 7 Launch Thread

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  • #2282
    gizmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    stevenmu wrote: »
    Network unlock shouldn't have dev unlocked the phone I would have thought. Another possiblity is that Chevron did actually unlock the phone but then mistakenly reported an error.
    That was my first thought alright but the token I was granted is still reporting as unused and the error in the unlock tool immediately went to "Phone already unlocked externally" when I used it. I've dropped them a mail anyway to see what it could have been, it seems they're having a few issues with the service so I guess this could be some new behaviour that's gone unreported thus far.


  • #2283
    wheresmybeaver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭wheresmybeaver


    The Lumia 800 is way overpriced at the €600 / £495 expansys and the like are trying to charge for it.. I assume this is because SIM-free stock is incredibly limited. Nokia initially said the 800 would be made available at basic stock price of €420, so even allowing for VAT at 21% this would top out at €500. Not sure if this already includes the retailers margin (probably not) but this should put it in the same price point as the HTC Titan and other "top tier" gen2 devices.

    It's a brilliant looking phone, but I wouldn't personally pay €600 for it. My father-in-law can get it on his German T-Mobile upgrade plan for about €100, which is very good and comparable to the other phones he's being offered (Android and the like). He's being offered an iPhone 4GS for about €350 mind you, so Apple are definitely more expensive. But I think the best advice is to wait it out and see if prices stablise, unless you have the cash of course.

    Meanwhile, the Dell Venue Pro is now £200 on expansys. Not a bad basic first smartphone for business users?


  • #2284
    rolion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭rolion


    Looking at stats here:
    2300 replies and ... 103.611 views !!
    do we need a subsection !??

    According to iMods...no,not yet !! iMaybe... :confused:


  • #2285
    markpb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,432 ✭✭✭markpb


    rolion wrote: »
    Looking at stats here:
    2300 replies and ... 103.611 views !!
    do we need a subsection !??

    According to iMods...no,not yet !! iMaybe... :confused:

    They've made their decision - why keep on about it. Perhaps it would be better if this thread was closed and everyone opened new threads to discuss new topics?


  • #2286
    DjFlin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭DjFlin


    markpb wrote: »
    They've made their decision - why keep on about it. Perhaps it would be better if this thread was closed and everyone opened new threads to discuss new topics?

    That would probably be for the best.

    I think most people worry that their threads wont be noticed. Personally, I subscribe to this thread, and rarely browse the Mobiles & PDAs, I sure wouldnt notice any other WP7 threads.


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  • #2287
    evolutionqy7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,277 ✭✭✭evolutionqy7


    DjFlin wrote: »
    markpb wrote: »
    They've made their decision - why keep on about it. Perhaps it would be better if this thread was closed and everyone opened new threads to discuss new topics?

    That would probably be for the best.

    I think most people worry that their threads wont be noticed. Personally, I subscribe to this thread, and rarely browse the Mobiles & PDAs, I sure wouldnt notice any other WP7 threads.

    Yeah the normal section is just filled with stuff I don't really care about. Id sometimes have a look. My first place of boards is subscripsions page.


  • #2288
    evolutionqy7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,277 ✭✭✭evolutionqy7


    DjFlin wrote: »
    markpb wrote: »
    They've made their decision - why keep on about it. Perhaps it would be better if this thread was closed and everyone opened new threads to discuss new topics?

    That would probably be for the best.

    I think most people worry that their threads wont be noticed. Personally, I subscribe to this thread, and rarely browse the Mobiles & PDAs, I sure wouldnt notice any other WP7 threads.

    Yeah the normal section is just filled with stuff I don't really care about. Id sometimes have a look. My first place of boards is subscripsions page.


  • #2289
    nxbyveromdwjpg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭nxbyveromdwjpg


    Does anyone have a link or a howto guide to upgrade to 7.5 Mango? More specifically on an Omnia 7.

    I'm sure its in there somewhere but thread is ridiculously huge

    thanks


  • #2290
    wheresmybeaver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭wheresmybeaver


    nm wrote: »
    Does anyone have a link or a howto guide to upgrade to 7.5 Mango? More specifically on an Omnia 7.

    I'm sure its in there somewhere but thread is ridiculously huge

    thanks

    You should only have to plugin your phone to your PC, and go to Settings => Update in Zune. Follow the instructions from there.

    If it says there's no update available, there may actually be one available except they're just being gradually rolled out. You can try the disconnect internet trick here, where essentially you click the Check for Updates button in Zune, wait a second, then disconnect your internet. Wait a while and it may tell you there's an update. Reconnect your internet again and away you go. If this still doesn't work, it means your particular Omnia just does not have an update available yet. The Samsungs have a habit of being the last to get any updates I'm afraid.


  • #2291
    DjFlin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭DjFlin


    Hey guys, trying to switch away from vodafone, but they've really f*cked me over.

    Any idea what LG Optimus 7 firmware I could flash so that I can put a Three sim into it? As well as one that supports updating to the the Internet Sharing feature? (The Open Europe ROM for example doesnt)


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  • #2292
    evolutionqy7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,277 ✭✭✭evolutionqy7


    DjFlin wrote: »
    Hey guys, trying to switch away from vodafone, but they've really f*cked me over.

    Any idea what LG Optimus 7 firmware I could flash so that I can put a Three sim into it? As well as one that supports updating to the the Internet Sharing feature? (The Open Europe ROM for example doesnt)

    There is no firmware for three cause Three don't sell the Optimus. Three only have the Omnia 7.


  • #2293
    DjFlin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭DjFlin


    evolutionqy7 wrote: »
    There is no firmware for three cause Three don't sell the Optimus. Three only have the Omnia 7.

    Yeah, I know that. There is a thread on XDA that provides all the versions of the Optimus firmware, I was just wondering if there are any (aside from Europe Open) that are not sim locked. I've noticed that just says "Germany", so I'm going to give that a go.

    I cant believe Vodafone screwed me on this. I need to get the phone unlocked ASAP, I'm expecting a very important call tomorrow. :mad:


  • #2294
    Boo_hoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭Boo_hoo


    Did you get the German Optimus 7? If you did it should work straight away with Three. However you might want to debrand it to remove any signs of Vodafone on it. Ie Vodafone mail etc.


  • #2295
    evolutionqy7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,277 ✭✭✭evolutionqy7


    DjFlin wrote: »
    evolutionqy7 wrote: »
    There is no firmware for three cause Three don't sell the Optimus. Three only have the Omnia 7.

    Yeah, I know that. There is a thread on XDA that provides all the versions of the Optimus firmware, I was just wondering if there are any (aside from Europe Open) that are not sim locked. I've noticed that just says "Germany", so I'm going to give that a go.

    I cant believe Vodafone screwed me on this. I need to get the phone unlocked ASAP, I'm expecting a very important call tomorrow. :mad:

    Any network takes ages to send out an unlock code.

    If I didn't just get it myself I would still be waiting from meteor to unlock my Omnia 7. I requested that last year March


  • #2296
    stevenmu
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    Fwiw I don't think flashing the firmware will perform a sim/network unlock. It doesn't with the Omnia anyway.


  • #2297
    DjFlin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭DjFlin


    Boo_hoo wrote: »
    Did you get the German Optimus 7? If you did it should work straight away with Three. However you might want to debrand it to remove any signs of Vodafone on it. Ie Vodafone mail etc.

    No, I got it when it launched on Vodafone IE
    evolutionqy7 wrote: »
    Any network takes ages to send out an unlock code.

    If I didn't just get it myself I would still be waiting from meteor to unlock my Omnia 7. I requested that last year March

    Well I'm giving them a call soon, and I guarantee I wont be hanging up without an unlock code. I'm so sick of VF's sh*t.
    stevenmu wrote: »
    Fwiw I don't think flashing the firmware will perform a sim/network unlock. It doesn't with the Omnia anyway.

    Your right. Now I'm back where I started. :(


  • #2298
    Boo_hoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭Boo_hoo


    If getting the SP unlock code off Vodafone falls through this site Unlockallcellular.com -LG-E900-Optimus-unlock-code is proven to work with Vodafone Ireland+Optimus7

    It costs €15. Select Other Networks>Ireland - Vodafone Eircell.


  • #2299
    DjFlin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭DjFlin


    Boo_hoo wrote: »
    If getting the SP unlock code off Vodafone falls through this site Unlockallcellular.com -LG-E900-Optimus-unlock-code is proven to work with Vodafone Ireland+Optimus7

    It costs €15. Select Other Networks>Ireland - Vodafone Eircell.

    Thanks, its starting to look like I'm going to have to go that route.


  • #2300
    evolutionqy7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,277 ✭✭✭evolutionqy7


    DjFlin wrote: »
    Well I'm giving them a call soon, and I guarantee I wont be hanging up without an unlock code. I'm so sick of VF's sh*t.

    Googluck because its not the poor rep that generates them unlocking codes. They have to get them of the OEM's. You might be wait be waiting for a very long time :P

    In my experience the Carrier never stores the unlocking codes. They always request them from OEM's so you could scream and do whatever you want to do but it just wont do anything cause the reps at the phone line wont be able to get them. I think it would be alot easier to get that 15 euro code :)


  • #2301
    DjFlin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭DjFlin


    evolutionqy7 wrote: »
    Googluck because its not the poor rep that generates them unlocking codes. They have to get them of the OEM's. You might be wait be waiting for a very long time :P

    In my experience the Carrier never stores the unlocking codes. They always request them from OEM's so you could scream and do whatever you want to do but it just wont do anything cause the reps at the phone line wont be able to get them. I think it would be alot easier to get that 15 euro code :)

    I wouldnt mind them having to get in contact with the OEM, but they wont even do that.

    I called them up, and they said they only give out NAC codes on the website. I explained that the function on the site doesnt work. So then I was transfered to someone else, who said the site will be fixed "soon". When I asked what "soon" meant, I was told "within the next couple of months" :mad:


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  • #2302
    rossc007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭rossc007


    Most OEM's ship the unlock code with the phones. When they are kitted out and shipped, the supplier sends the unlock codes to the carrier. I worked on systems for Meteor and O2, so I can only assume Vodafone have the same practice.


  • #2303
    DjFlin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭DjFlin


    So, I've had an interesting few days. Vodafone are taking ages to get me the unlock code, so I'm without a phone.

    I have been using my Optimus 7 for games and music. I've kept it in flight mode, and naturally, the battery last a lot longer.

    It got me thinking about how appealing a WP7 based MP3 player would be. The iPod remains virtually unopposed in that market.

    A few years ago I got myself a Microsoft Zune (80GB Gen 2) in the states, and to this day, I love it. I was planning on getting a Zune HD until I got a WP7. Imagine an updated Zune HD running WP7. If I didnt already have a WP7 I'd snap one of those up in a second.

    If Microsoft were ever to launch a flagship phone (Like Google's Nexus phones), I'd want it to look just like a Zune HD. Its a beautiful device.


    Also, for anyone who enjoys NES games, there's an emulator out in the marketplace for them, vNES, it comes with two free games, and you can add your own by uploading them to the web. The Super Bat Puncher game that comes with it is brilliant craic.


  • #2304
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,043 ✭✭✭✭fits


    That zune hd is very nice. I was considering getting a new MP3 player but since insurance company replaced my omnia 7 with a 16gb omnia 7... I cant really justify it.


  • #2305
    evolutionqy7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,277 ✭✭✭evolutionqy7


    Well if only they gave us the option to use it as an mp3 player for an xbox and an EQ it would be perfect ; )

    But even without those its my everyday mp3 player. Havent had a Dedicated MP3 player for over 5 years now. As soon as phones started supporting MP3 i started using them as music players. I dont like 20 things to do 20 things :) I like one thing to do 20 things :)


  • #2306
    DjFlin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭DjFlin


    evolutionqy7 wrote: »
    Well if only they gave us the option to use it as an mp3 player for an xbox and an EQ it would be perfect ; )

    But even without those its my everyday mp3 player. Havent had a Dedicated MP3 player for over 5 years now. As soon as phones started supporting MP3 i started using them as music players. I dont like 20 things to do 20 things :) I like one thing to do 20 things :)

    The Xbox thing I agree with, it really amazes/pisses me off that I cant play my music/podcasts while gaming. I've got my Zune plugged into the Xbox for that now, but as you said, 1 device to to 20 things would be easier.

    As for an EQ, I've never really felt the need. I've got a set of really good Sony headphones (Came free with my dads laptop in the states, they were worth 300 usd at the time :eek: ), and all my music is high quality too. Lossless on my 80GB Zune, but for obvious reasons, not the same on my Windows Phone.


  • #2307
    wheresmybeaver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭wheresmybeaver


    This week on WP7 Watch:
    • The Samsung Omnia W is coming to O2 Ireland, as mentioned on their forum as having been tested. No pricing yet but I would say it'll be mid-range priced, similar to how it's priced on expansys. No release date is forthcoming. It seems to be a grand gen2 phone with 8mb memory and Super Amoled display.
    • The Nokia Lumia 800 is coming to O2 UK before Christmas (December 9th apparently), but pricing is not yet available. Since most popular phones on O2 UK will usually reach O2 Ireland we could expect to see this eventually. Question is will this be before or after Christmas.

    On a related note, since at least one of these 2 phones are on my "potential purchases" list, I'm wondering if anyone can clarify:
    1. The cheapest bill pay tariff on O2 (with data) seems to be €20 / month for 150 texts and 150 minutes, with 150MB of data. This would be fine for my SO, but does this offer not include an actual phone at all, even if moving my SO from O2 prepay to billpay? Would you essentially have to pay the prepaid cost for a handset?
    2. The €40 / month tariff has a contract period of 18 months and definitely does seem to include a handset; is it possible to change the tariff down to the €20 / month tariff before the 18 months are up?

    Thanks a mill


  • #2308
    evolutionqy7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,277 ✭✭✭evolutionqy7


    wheresmybeaver wrote: »
    On a related note, since at least one of these 2 phones are on my "potential purchases" list, I'm wondering if anyone can clarify:
    1. The cheapest bill pay tariff on O2 (with data) seems to be €20 / month for 150 texts and 150 minutes, with 150MB of data. This would be fine for my SO, but does this offer not include an actual phone at all, even if moving my SO from O2 prepay to billpay? Would you essentially have to pay the prepaid cost for a handset?
    2. The €40 / month tariff has a contract period of 18 months and definitely does seem to include a handset; is it possible to change the tariff down to the €20 / month tariff before the 18 months are up?
    Thanks a mill

    The 20 euro a month tariff is SIM only and does not include a handset.
    The lowest tariff with a phone is All in 250 18 months contract and there's no way of moving down, only up.

    O2 all in 250 is OK. Just the gammy 150MB data allocation is ****. You can get it boosted to 700MB for an extra fiver but even at that its still crap.

    If only 02 boosted their data allowances id leave meteor. All in 250 + 1GB data and id be there :)

    I wanna get the Lumia on Meteor once it comes out. But im scared of signing a contract as their FCAT only apply for 12 months in an 18 month contract which is pretty ****. Im not too bothered about minutes. But ill run out of texts if i dont have FCAT.


  • #2309
    evolutionqy7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,277 ✭✭✭evolutionqy7


    7740 update for the Omnia 7 and Lumia 800 are out :)

    Go Go Go!! :)


  • #2310
    wheresmybeaver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭wheresmybeaver


    evolutionqy7 wrote: »
    The 20 euro a month tariff is SIM only and does not include a handset.
    The lowest tariff with a phone is All in 250 18 months contract and there's no way of moving down, only up.

    O2 all in 250 is OK. Just the gammy 150MB data allocation is ****. You can get it boosted to 700MB for an extra fiver but even at that its still crap.

    If only 02 boosted their data allowances id leave meteor. All in 250 + 1GB data and id be there :)

    I wanna get the Lumia on Meteor once it comes out. But im scared of signing a contract as their FCAT only apply for 12 months in an 18 month contract which is pretty ****. Im not too bothered about minutes. But ill run out of texts if i dont have FCAT.

    Thanks for that. 150MB is certainly ridiculous for €40 / month. I think we'll go with the basic €20 / month and get a phone either at the prepay price or go sim free altogether. The Omnia W would be a more attractive buy being relatively cheaper at about €380 compared to almost €100 extra for the Lumia 800. Decisions decisions...


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  • #2311
    evolutionqy7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,277 ✭✭✭evolutionqy7


    wheresmybeaver wrote: »
    Thanks for that. 150MB is certainly ridiculous for €40 / month. I think we'll go with the basic €20 / month and get a phone either at the prepay price or go sim free altogether. The Omnia W would be a more attractive buy being relatively cheaper at about €380 compared to almost €100 extra for the Lumia 800. Decisions decisions...

    Well the only advantage of the Omnia W over Lumia is the front facing camera (still cant understand why it was removed), also the price point.

    Advantages of Nokia is hardware (obviously), Nokia Maps saves you a good 80 euro on buying navigon from the marketplace[ if you need full sat nav] , more appealing looks, RGB Clear Black Display over Pentile Matrix on the Omnia W (alot crispier details), a longer charging leader :)

    I dont know whats up with Samsung but all the original leads seem to give up on me. Charger just stopped working, USB cable didnt want to charge it either so had to replace them 6 months down the road. The only original working accessory left are the headphones :)

    I personally cant wait for the Lumia to come :) Since i left HTC camp ive been sort of stuck in between two different approaches to handsets. I think most Samsung handsets are a bit ugly compared to HTC and Apple hardware, but Sammy has better screens, speakers, battery life. Where i think HTC has better build quality, better feel and design is second to none.

    So now Nokia can join those all together into one :) God i havent had a Nokia phone for 3 years now :P


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