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corofin gaa

  • 20-11-2011 07:08PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭


    Corofin gaa were robbed of a good goal in todays connaught club final


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭Cill Dara Abu


    Kildare were robbed of a goal v Donegal in the All-Ireland QF. What's you're point?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭red bull


    We all deserve neutral referees not that I condone what happened after the game


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    the Corofin supporters were a disgrace


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭red bull


    nice_guy80 wrote: »
    the Corofin supporters were a disgrace
    A small minority of them, thorough frustration with unbelievable referee decisions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 373 ✭✭ontheditch2


    I am a complete neutral, but i watched todays match.
    I texted my father at half time and asked him did he think the referee was harsh on Corofin. "He's Shocking" was the response. I have sympathy with the ref for the goal desision, because its a very hard one to get right, and not too many referees get the square ball decision right.
    But, if i am honest, he was disgraceful towards corofin.

    On the incident after the match, it is terrible to see it happening. Most supporters would never do anything like that and the supporters who "attacked" the ref will be embarrassed and ashamed this evening looking back at it, but they reacted in the heat of the moment, when years of their work as mentors and fathers and players was flushed down the drain because of an inept refereeing performance.

    Neither party should can hold their head up high.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,735 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    red bull wrote: »
    A small minority of them, thorough frustration with unbelievable referee decisions
    I was wondering if the ref was going to allow play to continue indefinitely until Corofin scored an equaliser. The problem was that no Corofin player had the balls to take that score.

    The Corofin "supporters" were a disgrace!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭Plastik


    red bull wrote: »
    A small minority of them, thorough frustration with unbelievable referee decisions

    Through bla bla bla. There is no excuse for the way they carried on. It's a pity TG4 carried the game live and showed the aftermath to the nation, though the picture quality is good so hopefully some of the protagonists will get caught.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭red bull


    Plastik wrote: »
    Through bla bla bla. There is no excuse for the way they carried on. It's a pity TG4 carried the game live and showed the aftermath to the nation, though the picture quality is good so hopefully some of the protagonists will get caught.


    One would hope it works both ways seeing is believing for the disgracefull referee and the disgracefull supporters


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,076 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    Plastik wrote: »
    Through bla bla bla. There is no excuse for the way they carried on. It's a pity TG4 carried the game live and showed the aftermath to the nation, though the picture quality is good so hopefully some of the protagonists will get caught.

    It didn't look like any of the fans managed to even lay a hand on the ref in the end so I'm not sure what they could be charged with. Apart from giving him an earful of abuse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Dr. Kenneth Noisewater


    Corofin were unlucky to have the goal disallowed but what happened afterwards was disgraceful. People seem to forget that the Referee and his colleagues are giving up a lot of their free time to adjudicate at these games in return for what? A barrage of abuse and possibly worse. They'd want to be getting danger money these days.

    The square ball issue was something we saw a number of times during the summer and it's obviously a hard one to call. The resultant witch hunt of the referee is all too easy from the point of view of people sitting at home with the benefit of replays from different angles etc.

    Hard luck Corofin, but take it with a bit of grace.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,076 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    deccurley wrote: »
    Hard luck Corofin, but take it with a bit of grace.

    Easy to say in fairness but when lads train all year and give up their own free time they probably expect a fair go in return.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 35,650 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Easy to say in fairness but when lads train all year and give up their own free time they probably expect a fair go in return.

    Very true - but it wasn't the players bearing down on the ref though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Dr. Kenneth Noisewater


    ShamoBuc wrote: »
    Very true - but it wasn't the players bearing down on the ref though!

    Thats what I mean, I feel sorry for the players but the supporters should have a bit more cop.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,040 ✭✭✭markie29


    Yes the referee was poor but how many chances did Corofin need to score? they should have been further ahead at half time and then late on when they had a chance to shoot for a point they messed around with the ball.

    As for after the game anyone who goes onto the pitch who is threatening or is abusive towards the ref should be banned from GAA for life there is no place in the sport for this unacceptable behaviour.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,149 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    markie29 wrote: »
    Yes the referee was poor but how many chances did Corofin need to score? they should have been further ahead at half time and then late on when they had a chance to shoot for a point they messed around with the ball.

    As for after the game anyone who goes onto the pitch who is threatening or is abusive towards the ref should be banned from GAA for life there is no place in the sport for this unacceptable behaviour.

    exactly. there is no excuse for it. none whatsoever. they can go on about training all year, or the years the mentors put in blah blah blah, and whilst you would have sorry for them, that knid of crap at the end makes it ridiculous. its sport. it happens the hwole time. there is always controversy each year and we are always looking for better refereeing and more consistency.

    but this hot headed violent scenes after games are horrible to see.

    the worst thin is, most players or teams know within themselves that they could still have won games in spite of a referee. it can often just come down to being used as an excuse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,378 ✭✭✭mosstin


    I am a complete neutral, but i watched todays match.
    I texted my father at half time and asked him did he think the referee was harsh on Corofin. "He's Shocking" was the response. I have sympathy with the ref for the goal desision, because its a very hard one to get right, and not too many referees get the square ball decision right.
    But, if i am honest, he was disgraceful towards corofin.

    On the incident after the match, it is terrible to see it happening. Most supporters would never do anything like that and the supporters who "attacked" the ref will be embarrassed and ashamed this evening looking back at it, but they reacted in the heat of the moment, when years of their work as mentors and fathers and players was flushed down the drain because of an inept refereeing performance.

    Neither party should can hold their head up high.

    Referee gets attacked by the lunatic fringe of the GAA and this is your response? Jesus wept. For all the good the organistation does, its sheer blindness to events like this - Tyrone last week, this match this week and next week there'll be another - makes things worse for all concerned. Don't you think it's about time the GAA took a hard line stance on events like this? Pathetic and becoming all too frequent.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Ref unbeliveably crap, some Corofin supporters unbelievably crap, home club stewards unbelievably crap....they should have surrounded the ref at full time and marched the dopey cnut straight off the pitch.

    That would have taken about 1 minute but they started celebrating and yahooing instead of stewarding.

    Only good things were Frankie Dolan who took his chances and the volunteers who did the stewards job and got that dopey cnut off the pitch for them. He should never ref anything again outside of Mayo after that.

    GAA needs head stewards with designated duties and responsibilities. If they fail their club should suffer ....like playing in empty grounds for a month or three. Oh and ban the Corofin yahoos who swung at anyone of course and bring them to court and fine the bejaysus out of them .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    Did the ref give a square ball for the disallowed goal or a free out for a foul on the St brigid's defender that had to go off injured?

    Sad to see scenes like that at the end of any game no ref deserves that type of carry on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,801 ✭✭✭✭Kojak


    Terrible refeering performance today by him, but Corofin have only themselves to blame for their loss. Too many times, especially in the first half, their attacks broke down in the 1/2 forward line when they had torn St. Bridgets apart. They couldn't expect to win when they were squandering that many chances.

    The goal was perfectly legitimate imo, and how the ref made the decision of square ball from out in the middle of the field is beyond me. He didn't seem to consult the umpires at all.

    I don't condone the scenes at the final whistle, but its a wonder he blew up the match when he was in the middle of the field. Why not blow the final whistle when he was near the sideline. Surely he should have copped what the feeling of the players/supporters would have been feeling, and tried to avoid that. It showed a lack of common sense/realism imo.

    Its was also amazing how no one got lined for 2 yellows, given the amount he handed out so early in the game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭Cill Dara Abu


    Would be great to see Frankie Dolan playing Inter-county football again, what a player!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,801 ✭✭✭✭Kojak


    Would be great to see Frankie Dolan playing Inter-county football again, what a player!

    Doubt that will happen according to the man himself

    http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=158035


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭Cill Dara Abu


    Kojak wrote: »
    Doubt that will happen according to the man himself

    http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=158035
    Yeah was reading that last week, it's a pity. If I was the new Roscommon manager I would be doing everything in my power to get him back.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    If I was the new Roscommon manager I would be doing everything in my power to get him back.

    Promise Him A New Pool Table or was that Billiards he was playing :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭Fozzie Bear


    Yeah was reading that last week, it's a pity. If I was the new Roscommon manager I would be doing everything in my power to get him back.

    He was not able to behave himself the last time he was on the Roscommon panel and thats why he was fcuked off of it and has not been back since. He was at the same craic for his own club too least people forget and was sent packing from there too. He played a couple of seasons with different clubs in Longford and Westmeath because his own club wanted nothing to do with him. Its only in the past few years he was allowed back. Ask Anthony Cunningham what he thinks of Frankie.

    He is no loss to the county panel given what went on previously. He has had plenty of chances and far too much history now. Leave him where he is in Kiltoom playing for Brigids. He is doing a fine job for them these days and let Roscommon get on with bringing through new younger talent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,513 ✭✭✭seanhynes


    what was he doing when he was on the roscommon panel?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 373 ✭✭ontheditch2


    mosstin wrote: »
    Referee gets attacked by the lunatic fringe of the GAA and this is your response? Jesus wept. For all the good the organistation does, its sheer blindness to events like this - Tyrone last week, this match this week and next week there'll be another - makes things worse for all concerned. Don't you think it's about time the GAA took a hard line stance on events like this? Pathetic and becoming all too frequent.

    Whats your point??
    What do you consider a "Hard line"?
    You making sweeping statements here and no substance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭Cill Dara Abu


    He was not able to behave himself the last time he was on the Roscommon panel and thats why he was fcuked off of it and has not been back since. He was at the same craic for his own club too least people forget and was sent packing from there too. He played a couple of seasons with different clubs in Longford and Westmeath because his own club wanted nothing to do with him. Its only in the past few years he was allowed back. Ask Anthony Cunningham what he thinks of Frankie.

    He is no loss to the county panel given what went on previously. He has had plenty of chances and far too much history now. Leave him where he is in Kiltoom playing for Brigids. He is doing a fine job for them these days and let Roscommon get on with bringing through new younger talent.
    He surely is a loss, top scoring forwards are hardly ten a penny in Roscommon, he could teach a few of that AI minor winning team a thing or two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,076 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    He surely is a loss, top scoring forwards are hardly ten a penny in Roscommon, he could teach a few of that AI minor winning team a thing or two.

    I thought Frankie Dolan was beginning to struggle a little with the pace and fitness requirements of intercounty football the last time he played. I can't imagine it'd be any easier for him now further down the line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    Overall I thought the better team won, just about. The Corofin supporters didn't do themselves any favours at the end but I can see why they were pissed off, the referee was awful and he didn't do himself any favours. Some of his decisions were puzzling to put it mildly. At one stage in the second half Brigids fouled the man and the ball and somehow ended up having a free in. I don't like to see refs getting abused but if you perform that badly you're asking for it, and I thought the ref today was terrible.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Syferus


    I thought Frankie Dolan was beginning to struggle a little with the pace and fitness requirements of intercounty football the last time he played. I can't imagine it'd be any easier for him now further down the line.

    To be fair Frankie ran all over the pitch today and was easily man of the match. Were he to play for the county there's no way he'd play the full 70 either.
    He was not able to behave himself the last time he was on the Roscommon panel and thats why he was fcuked off of it and has not been back since. He was at the same craic for his own club too least people forget and was sent packing from there too. He played a couple of seasons with different clubs in Longford and Westmeath because his own club wanted nothing to do with him. Its only in the past few years he was allowed back. Ask Anthony Cunningham what he thinks of Frankie.

    He is no loss to the county panel given what went on previously. He has had plenty of chances and far too much history now. Leave him where he is in Kiltoom playing for Brigids. He is doing a fine job for them these days and let Roscommon get on with bringing through new younger talent.

    Frankie's calmed down quite a bit, in his interview this week you could tell that he's much more circumspect about his career.

    He'll always have that edge, that can make him score a wonder point like the winner today or to make a wild tackle. Seeing him up close and on form it's hard for me to think he doesn't still have something to offer the county team. If Des Newton thinks he can add something extra to a county team that's nearing the brink of big things then I'd have no qualms about him returning. He obviously knows the Brigids players well and the young players would have grown up watching him play so they'd probably be excited to have him on-board. We've a panel full of players with maturity beyond their years so I don't think Frankie would really affect the unity of the team at this point.

    The thought of Frankie playing the Brian Doher role for a forward line of three big, skillful players in Donie and Cathal Shine and Senan Kilbride (and players like Cregg, O'Gara and McDermott in the half-forwards) does make for probably the most explosive attack in entirety of Roscommon footballing history, but in the end the current team will be defined by how the young players develop.


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