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  • #1322
    Leiva
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Leiva


    flahavaj wrote: »
    Sh*t just got real for Mister Suarez and his increasingly less vociferous suporters.

    name and shame Flah , name and shame .


  • #1323
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Fuhrer wrote: »
    Jesus Christ, how many ****ing times? The personal abuse charge is the racism.


    Mother of god.

    Well according to the statement he is charged of abusive behavior to evra which includes racist remarks, so if it's only one charge and he is cleared of racism will he still be charged with abusive language that wasn't racist.


  • #1324
    Cantona's Collars
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    eigrod wrote: »
    It's impossible to tell how many charges there are from that statement. The persistent use of "and/or" suggests to me that they haven't a clue what to charge him with so they are trying to cast their net as widely as they can in the hope that they'll find something to pin him with.

    And wtf are they on about when they say "behaviour" ? Surely if it was behaviour, it would have been visible (as opposed to the spoken word) and dealt with by the referee and included in his report ?

    Very strange statement by the FA and good lawyers should be all over this.

    Just the FA covering all bases with the statement,they never seem to release statements that make sense.I'm sure the specifics will come out in time.

    An example is going to be made of somebody regarding racist comments-whose your money on,Suarez or "Mr. England"?


  • #1325
    copacetic
    Subscribers Posts: 16,745 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    flahavaj wrote: »
    Sh*t just got real for Mister Suarez and his increasingly less vociferous suporters.

    Lol, yep because of course Utd fans have always turned against their manager and players as soon as they have been charged by the FA. Quite a rich history there, pretty sure the FA were backed all the way as being 100% right in those cases as certain people are making out here:rolleyes:.


  • #1326
    Leiva
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    zerks wrote: »

    An example is going to be made of somebody regarding racist comments-whose your money on,Suarez or "Mr. England"?

    Sweet Jesus it has to be both ..no ?

    They wouldn't let Terry off now surely ?????????

    well it is the English FA :eek:


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  • #1327
    killwill
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    niallo27 wrote: »
    I'm still 100% behind him, I doubt he is too bothered, not much chance of these charges sticking.

    Considering he admitted to using the word Negrito, this sh1t is definitely gonna stick!!!


  • #1328
    #15
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    K-9 wrote: »
    If that is the case in Uruguay then yes. Do you know it is? I'm not up on Uruguayan culture. Not being smart, just saying only really somebody familiar with the word and its context can say that.

    No, I'm not familiar with it at all. That's why I quoted an expert on Latin America!

    Secondly, if it is part of the culture in Uruguay, that's not really much of a defence in my admittedly patchy view. It is somewhat of a mitigating factor, and should be taken into consideration, but it's not enough to justify ignoring it.
    It's wrong, and whether or not it is accepted in Uruguay does not make it any more correct to call a black person a negrito if said person does not want to be called a negrito.
    I'm surprised at your views on this topic, I have to say.


  • #1329
    Crazy Horse 6
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    Still 100% behind Suarez. Looks like a BS charge in fairness more to do with the fact Luis isn't English. Fa trying to make an example (mascherano) style.


  • #1330
    killwill
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    niallo27 wrote: »
    Well according to the statement he is charged of abusive behavior to evra which includes racist remarks, so if it's only one charge and he is cleared of racism will he still be charged with abusive language that wasn't racist.

    I would say Yes


  • #1331
    MagicMarker
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    Crazy Horse 6 wrote: »
    Still 100% behind Suarez. Looks like a BS charge in fairness more to do with the fact Luis isn't English. Fa trying to make an example (mascherano) style.
    And if it's determined he's guilty?


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  • #1332
    jaykay74
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    niallo27 wrote: »
    Well according to the statement he is charged of abusive behavior to evra which includes racist remarks, so if it's only one charge and he is cleared of racism will he still be charged with abusive language that wasn't racist.

    I haven't seen this possibility mentioned in any of the reporting of the FA charge this evening from the main UK broadsheets or even the better journos on twitter so I doubt it.


  • #1333
    K-9
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    Fuhrer wrote: »
    Jesus Christ, how many ****ing times? The personal abuse charge is the racism.


    Mother of god.

    Clam down lad :D

    The fecking amount of fecking and/or's confused a few!

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #1334
    Crazy Horse 6
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    MagicMarker wrote: »
    And if it's determined he's guilty?

    What by the FA , still 100% behind him.


  • #1335
    killwill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,785 ✭✭✭killwill


    Crazy Horse 6 wrote: »
    Still 100% behind Suarez. Looks like a BS charge in fairness more to do with the fact Luis isn't English. Fa trying to make an example (mascherano) style.



    That is a crazy statement. Especially after Suarez statement last week


  • #1336
    MagicMarker
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    Crazy Horse 6 wrote: »
    What by the FA , still 100% behind him.
    Nice.


  • #1337
    Leiva
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    killwill wrote: »
    That is a crazy statement. Especially after Suarez statement last week


    So what about Suarezs statement ..whats your point ?


  • #1338
    [Deleted User]
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    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Nice.

    :confused:


  • #1339
    Cypher_sounds
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    Crazy Horse 6 wrote: »
    Still 100% behind Suarez. Looks like a BS charge in fairness more to do with the fact Luis isn't English. Fa trying to make an example (mascherano) style.


    In the same way they made an example of Rooney when he made a few choice words towards a t.v camera? Oh wait he is english:rolleyes: Pointless reasoning to be 100% behind Suarez in this case.


  • #1340
    Crazy Horse 6
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    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Nice.

    Roight.


  • #1341
    K-9
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    #15 wrote: »
    No, I'm not familiar with it at all. That's why I quoted an expert on Latin America!

    Secondly, if it is part of the culture in Uruguay, that's not really much of a defence in my admittedly patchy view. It is somewhat of a mitigating factor, and should be taken into consideration, but it's not enough to justify ignoring it.
    It's wrong, and whether or not it is accepted in Uruguay does not make it any more correct to call a black person a negrito if said person does not want to be called a negrito.
    I'm surprised at your views on this topic, I have to say.

    Uruguay isn't Latin America AFAIK.

    These aren't my views. I'm looking at it from the point of view of actually getting a conviction.

    Edit: It is, I thought it meant Mexico and other Central American countries.

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  • #1342
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    Cypher_sounds wrote: »
    In the same way they made an example of Rooney when he made a few choice words towards a t.v camera? Oh wait he is english:rolleyes:

    He's not English, he's scouse ;)


  • #1343
    Crazy Horse 6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭Crazy Horse 6


    Cypher_sounds wrote: »
    In the same way they made an example of Rooney when he made a few choice words towards a t.v camera? Oh wait he is english:rolleyes: Pointless reasoning to be 100% behind Suarez in this case.

    Lol he cud hardly get away with that, the guy shouted right into the camera.


  • #1344
    #15
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    K-9 wrote: »
    Uruguay isn't Latin America AFAIK.

    These aren't my views. I'm looking at it from the point of view of actually getting a conviction.

    Fair enough then, wires crossed. Expression of surprise retracted!


  • #1345
    Cypher_sounds
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    rarnes1 wrote: »
    He's not English, he's scouse ;)


    Oh yeah thats a latin place isn't it:p


  • #1346
    flahavaj
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    copacetic wrote: »
    Lol, yep because of course Utd fans have always turned against their manager and players as soon as they have been charged by the FA. Quite a rich history there, pretty sure the FA were backed all the way as being 100% right in those cases as certain people are making out here:rolleyes:.

    I didn't say "turn against him."

    I said his supporters aren't as vociderous as they were at the start when they were making up stories to cast aspirtions on Evra.


  • #1347
    killwill
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    mixednuts wrote: »
    So what about Suarezs statement ..whats your point ?

    My point is that they are not charging him because of his nationality like was claimed.
    They charged him because of an alleged incident involving him directly where he might or might not have made a racist remark.


  • #1348
    [Deleted User]
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    Cypher_sounds wrote: »
    Oh yeah thats a latin place isn't it:p

    Well, I was referring to flags Pool fans used to bring to European games :)


  • #1349
    K-9
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    #15 wrote: »
    Fair enough then, wires crossed. Expression of surprise retracted!

    Actually just looking up there, Latin America does include South America. I always assumed from US politics it meant Mexican, Cuban and other Central American countries.

    It's a huge area though so there could well be differences from Mexico to Uruguay.

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  • #1350
    ShamoBuc
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    flahavaj wrote: »
    Sh*t just got real for Mister Suarez and his increasingly less vociferous suporters.[/QUOTE]

    Not sure where your getting your ideas from:confused: Care to list a few of these ??? Thought not:rolleyes:


    It will be interesting if he is found not guilty - will that add credence to the fact that Evra was búll****ting in the first place?
    I love watching him play, that ain't going to change!


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  • #1351
    Turtwig
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    Just curious but does anyone know what exact evidence the FA are using to charge Suarez with? By this I mean, is it audio, video, or witness testimonial based.


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