Your 1000m row time!

AntiVirus wrote: »

I was tempted to push but knew it wouldn't be worth it in the long run. I was happy with that time but its still 13 seconds of my best time. I'm going to try setting the damper down to 3 or 4 and see how I go next time, if the arm starts to act up I'll have to give it a rest for a while.

I'm in the same boat [not intended] AV!

I never did a 1k or a 2k as it was all done outside on the water.

However my best 500m was 1m23 and my best 30mins was 8722m - so just a little bit to go to catch up...:D

I reckon you have a better chance of setting a new pb!

Where is the issue in the arm?

The Guvnor wrote: »

I'm in the same boat [not intended] AV!

I never did a 1k or a 2k as it was all done outside on the water.

However my best 500m was 1m23 and my best 30mins was 8722m - so just a little bit to go to catch up...:D

I reckon you have a better chance of setting a new pb!

Where is the issue in the arm?

The arm issue seems to be a mild "golfers" elbow. The odd thing is, I can do chin ups using a neutral grip but if I do chin ups or pull ups using any other grip I can feel the arm start to ache. If the rower had a neutral grip I'd be ok

I'll just be taking it easy for a while but it's definitly improved over the last few weeks.

Just one obvious point - always do a decent warm up before a hot attempt on the erg.

It does put a fair bit of pressure on the core, lower and upper back etc. so best to be warm before going hard.

I've been reading up about using the rower properly I've improved but my spm is normally between 30-35. I read somewhere (possibly here) that height can matter I'm about 5'3, I'm not going to compare my times/spm to guys that are 6'+ but when I'm at 30spm it's annoying close to being in the 20's and I just can't get there without the time suffering more than I want. My times aren't great, I don't think there awful either, nowhere near as good as people posting here I don't remember what my last 1000m was but I did 500m intervals the last time and my times were something like 2.45-3 which could be improved.

I make sure to use my legs and alot of the time I have my eyes closed, my spm and time improves with my eyes closed. As far as I can see from reading this and other things when I concintrate(eyes closed) I do things right.

I'm really just wondering should I try improve my spm get below 30 and then focus on improving time or should I stick to 30-35spm and try improve time.

At the moment I'm not really sure what I should do and as a result I don't think I'm improving as much as I can.

Killme00 wrote: »

I had the same or very similar tendon problem in my elbows, but Barry showed me an excercise which seems to have solved it.

Attached you see my gimpish paint doc of the setup. Simply hold the broomhandle/bar in both hands and turn in your hands to wind the wieght up to the top, then unwind it and repeat. It hurts, alot...but it works over time.

We actually did this between rounds last night

It's actually not that bad now. I've been pretty good not doing any thing that causes to much discomfort. Thanks for the picutre, I'll try set up something like that later. Should my hands be facing up or down?

The Guvnor wrote: »

100m target for Dom & JAK - 16 seconds dead would be very good and if you get into the 15 second range - it's really very, very, very good!

My PB from the 1990's - 14.9 seconds.
Paul B - did 14.7 seconds this year!

Fair enough will give it a go. 100m shouldn't mess with my session much.

Will leave damper at 6/7 - but I presume this is going to need a very high stroke rate - which is not my strongest point at the moment...

As for my PB Guv - I really don't remember a 500m best - but I presume 1.26ish. Keep in mind that my 1.27 is the wrong end of 1.27 for getting to 1.25 soon. As for your 1.23 - no. I remember you then, and I don't see myself getting to that time anytime in the next few years!

My weight is down a bit now to 16 1/4 - and I reckon I could hold at 16st even for a good balance of cardio fitness, heavy endurance lifting and out and out heavy stuff.

JAK

Jak wrote: »

Fair enough will give it a go. 100m shouldn't mess with my session much.

Famous last words! It won't effect you straight away but if done right it will!

Will leave damper at 6/7 - but I presume this is going to need a very high stroke rate - which is not my strongest point at the moment...

Just go short on the legs only a few inches - just enough to get momentum! Watch your back though - do warm up!

As for my PB Guv - I really don't remember a 500m best - but I presume 1.26ish. Keep in mind that my 1.27 is the wrong end of 1.27 for getting to 1.25 soon. As for your 1.23 - no. I remember you then, and I don't see myself getting to that time anytime in the next few years!

It will be logged on concept 2 in your old logbook if they can find it for you. IIRC though is was 1m26.7 or thereabouts so you can take this soon and probably 1m25 as well.

There is a technique for the 500m - basically fit as many strokes in as possible with decent technique!:D

My weight is down a bit now to 16 1/4 - and I reckon I could hold at 16st even for a good balance of cardio fitness, heavy endurance lifting and out and out heavy stuff.

JAK

Down from what? At 16st I'd be skeletor and faster on the erg! LOL

Sounds a bit like my row the other day mate!
Blowing up is imo perfectly acceptable and a necessary albeit painful learning curve.

Well done on pushing through and completing the piece!

Well today was interesting!:D

I checked the drag on the machine I normally use at between 3-4 and it was 106.

Moving it to 6 increased it to 125.

5 was about 110-112 iirc.

Anyway I did 4 x 1000m pieces with 4 minutes rest:

1. 1k - 3m30.5 - level 5 - 23 spm
2. 1k - 3m29.6 - level 5 - 24 spm
3. 1k - 3m34.0 - level 3 - 24 spm
4. 1k - 3m30.5 - level 5 - 24 spm

Not really happy with these - it seems mentally I am weak as in:

• 1st 250m ok
• 2nd 250 not bad
• 3rd 250m :eek: oh no, 500m left etc.
• 4th 250m better than 3rd but still a bit weak.

My back is super tired and pumped from all this erging and I can really feel it in the mid to upper region!

Then I decided to faff around a bit and do some 100m pieces.

These were rubbish - rating 65 and I was out of time with the stroke if that makes sense and the chain was going slack etc.

1. 1st - 16.8s
2. 2nd - 16.8s
3. 3rd - 17.2s

On my normal machine the half moon bit of plastic which keeps the slide and flywheel attached is missing - cue machine nearly coming apart in the middle on 1st 100m piece and me then moving to another machine.

I think the next 100m pieces will be done with a longer stroke (relative) and stroke rate of 40-45.

Well done K!

It looks like you emptied the tanks on the 1000m piece!:D

I'll bet those 500m were heaven after that!?

So had to move around sessions for this weekend so went to gym today to do Chest. Did a little stretching and then thought maybe I would have a go at the 100m time before heading down for the session.

Did 2 x 100m slow just to set my form ... then went at it ...

Set at 7 : 100m (3rd) time was 16.6 - timing off.

at 8 : 100m (4th) time was 16.3

at 10 : 100m (5th) time was 16.0

Ten seemed to be where it was at - but I had to weight down the rower.

at 10 : 100m (6th) time was 16.3. This was the one that would have been sub 16. Stroked down to 1.16 (lowest over all sets) and kept below 1.20 after 2 stroke start... until lifting half off the seat in my eagerness, losing it completely, reefing the handle into my chest and just about recovering to finish.

at 10 : 100m (7th) time was 16.2. This one I felt I had to slow down to stay on the machine - problem was that I just couldn't get it down to a low split quick enough.

At this point I was cursing you Guv and went to do my session. Which was mostly hindered by the belt I gave myself on the 6th sprint. And yah generally I felt it - not in the same sickening way as a few 500ms or a 1k, 2k - but just a bit drained and a few tweaks in core (obs mainly) and hamstring.

Finished up and on the way out was passing by the machine and figured I might as well.

Set to 10: 100m (8th) time was 16.0

and once more ...

Set to 8 (maybe this will work): 100m (9th) time was 16.4. Wrong direction - time to go.

What have i learned? Mainly that the issue is a lack of resistance in the machine (as it seems) and the difficulty of cranking into the low splits very quickly (maybe 200m would suit me better!). Lungs, Legs and Upper body can manage the sprints no problem - the issue is just that even at 10, I can't get to the sub 1.20 splits quick enough or hold them at say 1.17 at a stroke rate where I am not lifting off the machine.

JAK.

Best of lucky LL on Sunday! What time is your race on at?

Cheers Guvnor! uh think my race is on at 12:10, the times have changed slightly or so I believe, I'm J16 anyway! Are you/anyone else on here competing?

I might try and make it down however just to have a look.

Hopefully this thread LL will help to spur you on to an even better time!

This is taking place in Trinity - whereabouts?