Ford Mondeo 2008 Diesel - Choice

potsy11 · 27-10-2011 3:58pm #1

Hello Experts!!

I am looking at going over to UK to buy an 08 Mondeo Diesel.

There appears to be a few different types....

Can anyone recommend which models are the best / most reliable efficient on fuel etc...

Thanks in advance

Potsy

The Tyre Dude · 27-10-2011 4:07pm

I would seek out a 2.OTDCi Titanium or Ghia and avoid the 1.8 altogether. Loads of choice over there.

potsy11 · 27-10-2011 4:49pm

How much of a difference is there between Ghia & Titianium / 1.8 &2.0l??

Its for my wife as a family car.

Are there any issues with either models or items that need to be replaced at the 80-90k mileage mark?

Twin-go · 27-10-2011 5:00pm

2.0l Diesel is 140bhp

Titainium has

Part leather heated seats
quick clear windscreen
Ford connect+ system (Bluetooth Phone)
Voice control (Climate control - Phone - Radio)
Adaptive headlights incl kerb lights (lights turn around corners and light up kerb)
6 disc cd changer
Electric folding wing mirrors

The Tyre Dude · 27-10-2011 5:03pm

potsy11 wrote: »

How much of a difference is there between Ghia & Titianium / 1.8 &2.0l??

Are there any issues with either models or items that need to be replaced at the 80-90k mileage mark?

The Titanium has a more sporty set-up, silver trim and a bit more techie inside. Ghia has faux wood trim and geared toward luxury/comfort. Both are very well equipped.

The is a cleaner engine that the 1.8, so lower C02 and VRT. Also a more modern unit, smoother and more linear power delivery. It also shared with a lot of other cars (Pug, Citroen, Volvo) and is well proven.

potsy11 · 27-10-2011 5:31pm

The Tyre Dude wrote: »

The is a cleaner engine that the 1.8, so lower C02 and VRT. Also a more modern unit, smoother and more linear power delivery. It also shared with a lot of other cars (Pug, Citroen, Volvo) and is well proven.

Thanks for you advice but can you clarify what you were saying above.

Cheers

bbsrs · 27-10-2011 5:42pm

potsy11 wrote: »

Thanks for you advice but can you clarify what you were saying above.

Cheers

go to ros.ie vrt calculator and input details for the 2.0 then the 1.8 using same mileage ect. and you'll see the difference in vrt , the lower the co2 emissions of the car the lower the percentage of omsp you pay , do your homework before you go to the uk , will you save anything even by the time boat and tickets exchange rate everything are added in.

potsy11 · 27-10-2011 5:50pm

bbsrs wrote: »

go to ros.ie vrt calculator and input details for the 2.0 then the 1.8 using same mileage ect. and you'll see the difference in vrt , the lower the co2 emissions of the car the lower the percentage of omsp you pay , do your homework before you go to the uk , will you save anything even by the time boat and tickets exchange rate everything are added in.

Exchange rate got better today with rally in markets.

I've done a good few comparisons and here is a fairly accurate breakdown:

UK
€6000 - for 1.8 TDCI Ghia c. 80,000 miles
€2500 for VRT
Flight & Boat allowing €500

Total €9,000

Ireland
Cheapest on CBG with similiar spec is €14,000 ranging up to €18,000

I think its great value....

bbsrs · 27-10-2011 7:14pm

potsy11 wrote: »

Exchange rate got better today with rally in markets.

I've done a good few comparisons and here is a fairly accurate breakdown:

UK
€6000 - for 1.8 TDCI Ghia c. 80,000 miles
€2500 for VRT
Flight & Boat allowing €500

Total €9,000

Ireland
Cheapest on CBG with similiar spec is €14,000 ranging up to €18,000

I think its great value....

€14000 for a 08 Mondeo I would think near impossible to achieve not to mind 18k when there's alot of them around sub 10k , What people ask for a car and get are two different things. But you will get a better spec in the UK for your money so even if it worked out the same price here I would probably go with getting one from the UK.

bazz26 · 27-10-2011 10:03pm

Just to clarify the Mondeo diesel engine line up:

1.8 TDCi - old Ford engine with a very narrow power band, not very refined. 2008 - €302 to tax.

2.0 TDCi - Peugeot/Citroen engine, smooth, quiet and decent power. 2008 - €447 to tax.

In the UK there were a number of different trim levels to over here:

Edge - base model,
Zetec - higher spec than Zetec,
Econetic - based on Zetec but with lower emissions,
Ghia - slightly higher spec than Zetec,
Titanium - Replaced the Ghia,
Titanium X - Higher spec than Titanium,
Titanium Sport - Same as Titanium X but adds larger alloywheels, lowered sports suspension, rear diffuser, interior red sport trim.

The 2.0 TDCi Titanium X is the pick of the bunch imo.

yop · 27-10-2011 10:11pm

bazz26 wrote: »

The 2.0 TDCi Titanium X is the pick of the bunch imo.

Bang on Baz, great motor. Have the ST version of the mondeo myself, grand car, plenty of poke but the Titanium X are just as nice a car OP.

Keep an eye out there for them in the UK.

I see a Titanium for sale there in Mayo for I THINK it was around 14950.

George Dalton · 27-10-2011 11:01pm

I don't see the value in going to the UK for a run of the mill car like a Mondeo any more. It is not like years ago when prices here were high compared to the UK and VRT was low. As already stated there are plenty of 08 Mondeos advertised for around 10k which means if you go in with 9k cash you will buy one and save yourself the hassle of a trip to the UK.

scoobymunster · 27-10-2011 11:08pm

George Dalton wrote: »

I don't see the value in going to the UK for a run of the mill car like a Mondeo any more. It is not like years ago when prices here were high compared to the UK and VRT was low. As already stated there are plenty of 08 Mondeos advertised for around 10k which means if you go in with 9k cash you will buy one and save yourself the hassle of a trip to the UK.

You don't necessarily have to go to England, you could try up North. . .

George Dalton · 27-10-2011 11:11pm

You still have to go through the hassle of VRT, NCT etc even if you buy up north. No point unless you are saving a decent amount of money. I just don't see where the savings are.

166man · 27-10-2011 11:15pm

George Dalton wrote: »

I don't see the value in going to the UK for a run of the mill car like a Mondeo any more. It is not like years ago when prices here were high compared to the UK and VRT was low. As already stated there are plenty of 08 Mondeos advertised for around 10k which means if you go in with 9k cash you will buy one and save yourself the hassle of a trip to the UK.

That could well be true however many of the cars in the UK are kept better and better specced. Worth the trip imo.

yop · 27-10-2011 11:16pm

George Dalton wrote: »

I don't see the value in going to the UK for a run of the mill car like a Mondeo any more. It is not like years ago when prices here were high compared to the UK and VRT was low. As already stated there are plenty of 08 Mondeos advertised for around 10k which means if you go in with 9k cash you will buy one and save yourself the hassle of a trip to the UK.

Plenty advertised but the spec is still miles ahead of the Irish spec. Even the mondeos been imported by the garages have poor specs.
Well worth going to NI or UK, been doing it for 10 years and have never seen a car here to match the spec.

George Dalton · 27-10-2011 11:20pm

They are out there alright. You just have to look for them. Especially something like a Mondeo. There should be plenty of ex fleet stuff with good spec around. Mileage might be a bit high but then most of the cars people bring back from the UK are high milers as low mileage cars fetch good money over there just the same way they do at home. I used to buy my cars in the UK, made several trips over but haven't bothered for the last few years as I actually think there is better value here now.

murphyep · 28-10-2011 10:11am

Hi Guys,
I bought a 2008 2.0litre titanium X in black a few months back..

Just to note, from my experience the titanium does not come with part leather.But the titanium X does.

Be very careful with the VRT though.
The price I got off the vrt website turned out to be over 1000 less to what I had to actually pay.

If you are unsure, I'd ring the NCT centre to confirm.

rgiller · 28-10-2011 12:18pm

murphyep wrote: »

Hi Guys,
I bought a 2008 2.0litre titanium X in black a few months back..

Just to note, from my experience the titanium does not come with part leather.But the titanium X does.

Be very careful with the VRT though.
The price I got off the vrt website turned out to be over 1000 less to what I had to actually pay.

If you are unsure, I'd ring the NCT centre to confirm.

Just out of curiosity, what kind of price did you get the car for in the UK? Just a ballpark figure...

potsy11 · 28-10-2011 12:25pm

murphyep wrote: »

Hi Guys,
I bought a 2008 2.0litre titanium X in black a few months back..

Just to note, from my experience the titanium does not come with part leather.But the titanium X does.

Be very careful with the VRT though.
The price I got off the vrt website turned out to be over 1000 less to what I had to actually pay.

If you are unsure, I'd ring the NCT centre to confirm.

How much did you pay? if you dont mind sharing...

I retract my initial value of Mondeos in Ire. had clicked the wrong filter on the website. I agree though that the spec appears to be far higher in the UK than Ireland.
It is marginal as to whether the effort etc is worth the journey......I'd still be on the side that yes it is worth it.

murphyep · 28-10-2011 3:01pm

I paid 4118 euro vrt on this car..2008 mondeo titanium x, 2.0 tdci 6 speed

bazz26 · 28-10-2011 9:22pm

Just to add that the Co2 emmissions on the 2.0 TDCi Titanium X were lower on 2009 models than 2008 which may make the figures on the VRT website incorrect as it moved the car from Tax/VRT band D down to Tax/VRT band C afaik. Make sure and check the Co2 figure on the car's V5 document, this what Revenue will use when you present the car for VRT.

Also since the current Mondeo was launched Irish/UK specs have been pretty much the same. Yes, the Titanium models are more plentiful in the UK and they might put a few extras in but generally an Irish Mondeo Titanium X is pretty much the same as a UK Mondeo Titanium X, except you probably will not buy a saloon one in the UK as they don't like them.

LFC Murphy · 28-10-2011 10:26pm

yop wrote: »

Plenty advertised but the spec is still miles ahead of the Irish spec. Even the mondeos been imported by the garages have poor specs.
Well worth going to NI or UK, been doing it for 10 years and have never seen a car here to match the spec.

Would you recommend any particular dealer or do you mostly buy private?
Thanks

yop · 28-10-2011 10:56pm

LFC Murphy wrote: »

Would you recommend any particular dealer or do you mostly buy private?
Thanks

Have bought 3 cars off the one dealer in NI, 2 more from another 2 separate dealers in NI.
Have bought 1 car private and 1 car dealer in UK.

Not all my own

Have bought 5 cars for myself though from the above.

Out of the above, one, an NI dealer wasn't mighty. One of the UK dealers wasn't overly friendly but the car is sound.

2 dealers stand out.

The Tyre Dude · 28-10-2011 11:13pm

Cars in the North tend to be more expensive than the mainland, and with the amount of dodgy diesel around the place the UK would be my first port of call.

LFC Murphy · 29-10-2011 5:47am

yop wrote: »

2 dealers stand out.

If you mean stand out in a good way, would you pm me their details? Thanks

yop · 29-10-2011 9:01am

The Tyre Dude wrote: »

Cars in the North tend to be more expensive than the mainland, and with the amount of dodgy diesel around the place the UK would be my first port of call.

They are definitely dearer, found them probably 5-10% higher but when you take into account the flight over and boat back and losing a day then it makes up the difference or close to it.
Have only bought UK reg'd cars off them, so hopefully avoided that issue

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RT1 · 09-11-2011 2:36pm

murphyep wrote: »

I paid 4118 euro vrt on this car..2008 mondeo titanium x, 2.0 tdci 6 speed

Hello, I'm new to the site but I was really interested to see how much vrt you paid on the 08 Mondeo titanium x. I'm looking at a 07 one at the moment in NI but I'm concerned that I can't get an accurate vrt estimate because the exact details aren't on the vrt calculator. Rang NCT/vrt and revenue and tbh they were no real help. Has to be assessed by revenue in Rosslare, no way to contact them and no way to get estimate ahead of purchase. Absolutely riddiculus imo. If it's more than 3k then it's not worth it. Anyone have any ideas how to de-risk the process or should I just keep Looking for an Irish model? There are a few 08 models advertised but even the cheapest one is outside my ideal price range. Thanks!

Flynner64 · 09-11-2011 2:46pm

I bought a 2008 Mondeo 1.8 Diesel estate this week. It's the titanium x in black, with upgraded 18" alloys. It has 97k miles, clutch flywheel and timing belt all just done, and got it from main dealer with warranty for €11,450. There are good deals but you will have to be patient. I've been looking for the past month for the right car, and it's true that 08 titanium x models are usually 13 - 14k

RT1 · 09-11-2011 3:51pm

Flynner64 wrote: »

I bought a 2008 Mondeo 1.8 Diesel estate this week. It's the titanium x in black, with upgraded 18" alloys. It has 97k miles, clutch flywheel and timing belt all just done, and got it from main dealer with warranty for €11,450. There are good deals but you will have to be patient. I've been looking for the past month for the right car, and it's true that 08 titanium x models are usually 13 - 14k

Thanks Flynner64, it's good to know there are some good bargains there on Irish plates! My budget is around 9.5k so 08 models are probably out of my range, for now anyway. Think I'll just have to keep an eye out for an 07 model, there must be some out there on Irish plates?

166man · 09-11-2011 6:25pm

RT1 wrote: »

Thanks Flynner64, it's good to know there are some good bargains there on Irish plates! My budget is around 9.5k so 08 models are probably out of my range, for now anyway. Think I'll just have to keep an eye out for an 07 model, there must be some out there on Irish plates?

This one makes Flynner64's Mondeo look a tad expensive, but might suit your budget. Don't be put off by the mileage!

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2703719

RT1 · 09-11-2011 8:56pm

166man wrote: »

RT1 wrote: »

Thanks Flynner64, it's good to know there are some good bargains there on Irish plates! My budget is around 9.5k so 08 models are probably out of my range, for now anyway. Think I'll just have to keep an eye out for an 07 model, there must be some out there on Irish plates?

This one makes Flynner64's Mondeo look a tad expensive, but might suit your budget. Don't be put off by the mileage!

Sorry 166man, I'm definitely showing my lack of experience with this site but I can't see any link to what you thought might be within my budget? Any chance you could post a link? Many thanks!

166man · 09-11-2011 9:01pm

RT1 wrote: »

Sorry 166man, I'm definitely showing my lack of experience with this site but I can't see any link to what you thought might be within my budget? Any chance you could post a link? Many thanks!

Post edited above.

EPM · 09-11-2011 9:32pm

I'd go with the 2 litre over the 1.8 if you have a choice.

RT1 · 09-11-2011 9:45pm

166man wrote: »

RT1 wrote: »

Sorry 166man, I'm definitely showing my lack of experience with this site but I can't see any link to what you thought might be within my budget? Any chance you could post a link? Many thanks!

Post edited above.

Thanks 166man, just looked at the add. Definitely looks like a good deal, the only problem is now that I've test driven the titanium x spec I can't look at anything else! A 5 mile test drive that will probably either destroy my bank balance on an impulse buy or blind me to a great deal on an equivalent Zetec, which by the way, I thought were fantastic looking cars before I discovered there was a titanium model!

RT1 · 09-11-2011 9:51pm

EPM wrote: »

I'd go with the 2 litre over the 1.8 if you have a choice.

Absolutely agree, there's great punch in the 2 ltr for a big car and I wonder if the 1.8 might bog down a little when fully loaded down

EPM · 09-11-2011 9:55pm

If you don't do huge mileage there's a lot of 2 litre petrols In titanium x spec about too. You could use the fascination with the new tax rates to your advantage buying one.

RT1 · 09-11-2011 10:32pm

EPM wrote: »

If you don't do huge mileage there's a lot of 2 litre petrols In titanium x spec about too. You could use the fascination with the new tax rates to your advantage buying one.

Thought about that, but I do enough annual milage to make it too expensive to run a petrol.

Flynner64 · 09-11-2011 11:59pm

RT1 wrote: »

Thanks 166man, just looked at the add. Definitely looks like a good deal, the only problem is now that I've test driven the titanium x spec I can't look at anything else! A 5 mile test drive that will probably either destroy my bank balance on an impulse buy or blind me to a great deal on an equivalent Zetec, which by the way, I thought were fantastic looking cars before I discovered there was a titanium model!

I agree, if you've already tested the Titanium X it's just a lovely place to be, pure luxury, without being a knob the 07 LX just does not compare. With regard to the 1.8 being a bit gutless, I'll know after the weekend when I have the car packed up with PA and drums heading gigging

squirrel6767 · 10-11-2011 12:19am

I am personally looking at a 2008 1.8 TDCI on the LX or Edge (UK) - some good €10k deals to be had. A 1.6 petrol at the weekend was showing only 29mpg on the display so have moved on from that.
Wont have a big load normally nor do I intend towing anything so really only need to carry the weight of the car itself.
The 1.8 has the 100bhp and 125bhp versions. Again, if not concerned about loading except for the car and not going to be doing a massive amount of driving (30 mile round trip to work and circa 12k mile per annum) would the 100bhp be ok?
Is the 125bhp more desirable and why exactly?

Thanks

FrontDoor · 10-11-2011 12:44am

squirrel6767 wrote: »

I am personally looking at a 2008 1.8 TDCI on the LX or Edge (UK) - some good €10k deals to be had. A 1.6 petrol at the weekend was showing only 29mpg on the display so have moved on from that.
Wont have a big load normally nor do I intend towing anything so really only need to carry the weight of the car itself.
The 1.8 has the 100bhp and 125bhp versions. Again, if not concerned about loading except for the car and not going to be doing a massive amount of driving (30 mile round trip to work and circa 12k mile per annum) would the 100bhp be ok?
Is the 125bhp more desirable and why exactly?

Thanks

There are two separate issues here.

One is the engine. The 125 will have more poke, and might have 6 gears. I think some of them in the UK had.

The second is the trim. Edge will be basic.

Still, most of the Mondeos sold in Ireland were the 100 bhp lx and people are flying around very contentedly in them. I am sure the performance is adequate and the interior would be fine too. No more than most passats would be 105 bhp trendline models.

Nothing wrong with them and they'll last as long as the other variations, just that for a few more quid, you get a much nippier and more comfortable car.

Zubeneschamali · 10-11-2011 11:26am

FrontDoor wrote: »

Nothing wrong with them and they'll last as long as the other variations, just that for a few more quid, you get a much nippier and more comfortable car.

The 1.8 diesel has a very narrow powerband. You get nothing, nothing, power, out of puff. This makes it more work to drive, with a lot of gear-swapping needed compared to the 2.0 diesel, which is more relaxed.

maxpower2011 · 09-12-2011 10:28pm

The Tyre Dude wrote: »

I would seek out a 2.OTDCi Titanium or Ghia and avoid the 1.8 altogether. Loads of choice over there.

I'm looking at a 09 1.8 diesel. I plan on using it for work, it will do a fair bit of driving. I'm interested in it as the one I'm looking at seem reasonably priced also it "respectable" for the purpose I need it. Fuel efficiency is important though, I ave no problem with it lacking power as it's function will be work A to B, priorty is a medium sized car that is fuel efficient.

hollywoodhoppy · 03-02-2012 12:07am

did anyone ever find out what the VRT was after or did OP go through with purchase, in the process of buying one currently and wondering if anyone has a ball park price?

bazz26 · 03-02-2012 12:37am

hollywoodhoppy wrote: »

did anyone ever find out what the VRT was after or did OP go through with purchase, in the process of buying one currently and wondering if anyone has a ball park price?

Revenue's VRT calculator is here:
https://www.ros.ie/evrt-enquiry/vrtenquiry.html?execution=e1s1

fatalll · 03-02-2012 12:52am

I drive the 1.8 Diesel Zetec 125bhp 6 gears..
plenty of go to be honest..
love it bought it new......
Not sure why you would want a 2.0 Diesel to be honest...but then again i never drove the 2.0L version

bazz26 · 03-02-2012 1:00am

fatalll wrote: »

I drive the 1.8 Diesel Zetec 125bhp 6 gears..
plenty of go to be honest..
love it bought it new......
Not sure why you would want a 2.0 Diesel to be honest...but then again i never drove the 2.0L version

The 2.0 litre has 140bhp, is more refined, more powerful and the power delivery is spread across the rev range alot better than the 1.8 litre.

RT1 · 03-02-2012 10:22am

Hey Hollywoodhoppy, if you use the VRT calculator on the Revenue site (link posted earlier in this thread), make sure you select the 1.8 or 2.0 TD option, not the TDCI (which you'd think would be the one to select) and this will give you very accurate estimates of what the VRT would be on a Titanium or Titanium X (2007 to 2009).

If you select the TDCI option, this only seems to have the 2010 onwards details (based on the default BHP and CO2 figures displayed).

I recently (December '11) imported an '08 Titanium from the UK and the VRT was EURO 3,329. For a Titanium X with similar milage, VRT would have been approx EURO 3,800.

Hope this helps1

cuculainn · 03-02-2012 12:16pm

Hey what sort of MPG would be average for the 1.8 or 2.0 diesel Mondeos?

trabpc · 03-02-2012 3:15pm

I just test drove a 1.8 TDCI and purchased. The 1.8 is quite nippy despite what I keep hearing on boards constanly about it. I have also tried the 2.0TDCi which is also fine. I do take the point that in lower revs it can feel a little less power but overall anone like me moving up fro an early 00 diesel will find the 1.8 tdci great. Ill let you know how the MPG is after a week or so. In conclusion don't be put off the 1.8 despite a lot of bashing from some on boards!!

Ford Mondeo 2008 Diesel - Choice

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