Is Sean Gallagher telling lies

EamonM · 26-10-2011 12:42AM

Liam Byrne wrote: »

:rolleyes: Never suggested that he did.

How can it be "completely fabricated" if Gallagher ended up admitting it ?

Liam it was fabricated that he went to this criminals house when later they admitted they got it wrong, he invited people to an event and put it out there the limitations of what they could donate if they wished to do so, he never took money off anyone thats it.:)

bad2dabone · 26-10-2011 12:45AM

EamonM I think you're fabricated. Nobody can be so willfully moronic to continuously believe the lies and be an apologist for the snakes in FF.

Bannasidhe · 26-10-2011 12:46AM

EamonM wrote: »

Liam it was fabricated that he went to this criminals house when later they admitted they got it wrong, he invited people to an event and put it out there the limitations of what they could donate if they wished to do so, he never took money off anyone thats it.:)

Apart from the what was it? 6/7 grand he never paid back to Louth Enterprise Board

Effluo · 26-10-2011 12:46AM

Sean Gallagher IS an independent candidate!

Fianna Fáil had an internal struggle for months debating whether to run a candidate or not, they even made an approach to Gay Byrne! All this happened while SG had already entered the race.

They're not going to run a candidate who's had as little involvement as SG. He'll probably get a lot of the FF vote, but his involvement with the party is clearly minimal.

To think that 12k is a good representitive of SG's wealth, well I think that would show a lot of naivety, I don't think you can argue with that xD

bad2dabone · 26-10-2011 12:47AM

Effluo wrote: »

his involvement with the party is clearly minimal.

jesus titty ****ing christ!

spider guardian · 26-10-2011 12:47AM

krd wrote: »

I have.

And lots of other people have. Lots of people give their time and money, in support of political parties with no expectation of getting a material reward.

It's absolutely corrupt to fund a political party with the expectation of receiving a return on the "investment".

It's a matter of record that Fianna Fail's donations from builders were corrupt - even if it can't be proved the precise nature of the corruption. They weren't handing over swodges of cash, in brown envelopes ,and the like, to people like Bertie, to further Irish democracy. Were they?

People actually believe in democracy. Otherwise you just have a dictatorship of cute hoors, in cowshish covered wellington boots. Which is what a certain type of Irish patriot would like.

Now. I know Fianna Failers see the world differently. That life to them is like running a dirty little village shop, where they try to screw whoever comes through the door. And they think everyone else is either out to screw everyone else or they're just a fool.

A Fianna Fail Ireland is not an Ireland anyone could be proud of.

That's fair enough. But do you know for a fact that Sean Gallagher would not do good for the country if he was elected?

Bannasidhe · 26-10-2011 12:48AM

bad2dabone wrote: »

jesus titty ****ing christ!

It's fascinating in a weird way isn't it

Liam Byrne · 26-10-2011 12:49AM

EamonM wrote: »

Liam it was fabricated that he went to this criminals house when later they admitted they got it wrong,

So you're saying that he never went to the house ?

raymon · 26-10-2011 12:50AM

spider guardian wrote: »

That's fair enough. But do you know for a fact that Sean Gallagher would not do good for the country if he was elected?

Ok , a failed businessman / compulsive liar is good for the country how ?

maccored · 26-10-2011 12:50AM

spider guardian wrote: »

That's fair enough. But do you know for a fact that Sean Gallagher would not do good for the country if he was elected?

I know this was for someone else, but I have to butt in. I have no trust in Sean Gallagher at all when its between his wealth and the good of the country. Thats just imo.

CageWager · 26-10-2011 12:51AM

who knows what else will come out of the woodwork if he gets elected. same can be said for a number of other candidates. its tough to have such a hard decision to make, not because of a wealth of quality, but a dismal lack of it..:mad:

Jayob10 · 26-10-2011 12:59AM

Gallagher is only popular because to the average punter, he represented a departure from the party affiliated candidate. They saw him as an independent.

Even though that has been blown apart the public realise, "ah sure do we really give a flying f*ck? Sure doesn't the president do feck all anyways. Tis great telly though"

WhatNowForUs? · 26-10-2011 01:01AM

Effluo wrote: »

Sean Gallagher IS an independent candidate!

Fianna Fáil had an internal struggle for months debating whether to run a candidate or not, they even made an approach to Gay Byrne! All this happened while SG had already entered the race.

They're not going to run a candidate who's had as little involvement as SG. He'll probably get a lot of the FF vote, but his involvement with the party is clearly minimal.

To think that 12k is a good representitive of SG's wealth, well I think that would show a lot of naivety, I don't think you can argue with that xD

Mother of God Help.

Enterprise Board.
FAS.
Mary Coughlan.
Brown Envelops.
Money resting in my account.
Don't recollect.
Brian Cowen.
2 FF TD's launch party.
€5000 dinner partys
FF youth
etc etc etc fu(kin etc.

Nah - Not Connected

EamonM · 26-10-2011 01:01AM

thebman wrote: »

Leave him to creating the businesses then, he can't do that if he is elected president.

Your giving us great reasons to not vote for him.

I think you will find he can apply his enterprising skills and knowledge to grow the businesses in the country,

I know for a fact there is already a business plan in place and new task force ready to be implemented to reinvent the thirty three Enterprise boards in the country to inject a new dynamic approach to fresh start up businesses and re-energise the existing SME and rebuild the foundations in this country from the ground up village by village community by community...

And this is exactly what the country needs in my opinion. Thats what will happen when Sean Gallagher is elected and this is why I am so pro Mr. Gallagher and pledge my support in achieving this task .

I just hope the people of this great nation can see past these minor allegations and focus on the bigger picture and what we can accomplish together as a nation with the right guidance and structure in place which I know Sean will provide with us working together we actually can control our destiny.

Effluo · 26-10-2011 01:02AM

bad2dabone wrote: »

jesus titty ****ing christ!

Just because everyone talks about it all the time doesn't make it true!

For me personally, I think all party politics is complete BS.
He might as well have been Fianna Gael, Fianna Fail or Labour, they're all the same to me, it's all BS party politics and politicians and parties looking after themselves.

When you consider that actual evidence to his involvement and how little he was involved with it, there is no story there. It's been completely thrown out of all proportions, by the other candidates and the media.

I truly feel sorry for the guy and it paints a sad and deplorable picture of politics & the media in Ireland today.

Jayob10 · 26-10-2011 01:05AM

EamonM wrote: »

I think you will find he can apply his enterprising skills and knowledge to grow the businesses in the country,

I know for a fact there is already a business plan in place and new task force ready to be implemented to reinvent the thirty three Enterprise boards in the country to inject a new dynamic approach to fresh start up businesses and re-energise the existing SME and rebuild the foundations in this country from the ground up village by village community by community...

And this is exactly what the country needs in my opinion. Thats what will happen when Sean Gallagher is elected and this is why I am so pro Mr. Gallagher and pledge my support in achieving this task .

I just hope the people of this great nation can see past these minor allegations and focus on the bigger picture and what we can accomplish together as a nation with the right guidance and structure in place which I know Sean will provide with us working together we actually can control our destiny.

This really is remarkable stuff.

This in essence is a trivial decision we have to make Thursday. The fate of the nation does not rest on who we choose as president, if you believe that then there is no hope for you.

Jayob10 · 26-10-2011 01:09AM

Effluo wrote: »

Just because everyone talks about it all the time doesn't make it true!

For me personally, I think all party politics is complete BS.
He might as well have been Fianna Gael, Fianna Fail or Labour, they're all the same to me, it's all BS party politics and politicians and parties looking after themselves.

When you consider that actual evidence to his involvement and how little he was involved with it, there is no story there. It's been completely thrown out of all proportions, by the other candidates and the media.

I truly feel sorry for the guy and it paints a sad and deplorable picture of politics & the media in Ireland today.

I agree that his involvement is minimal relatively speaking.

Rather it casts doubts on the man's character though. Man up and tackle the accusations head on. Bat them off and be bullish about your past if you have nothing to hide.

All the back tracking and dodging questions make him look like he has something to hide.

In the whole scheme of things this election is nothing but a side show popularity contest, providing some decent television.

There are far more important issues to be addressed in Ireland

Bannasidhe · 26-10-2011 01:10AM

EamonM wrote: »

I think you will find he can apply his enterprising skills and knowledge to grow the businesses in the country,

I know for a fact there is already a business plan in place and new task force ready to be implemented to reinvent the thirty three Enterprise boards in the country to inject a new dynamic approach to fresh start up businesses and re-energise the existing SME and rebuild the foundations in this country from the ground up village by village community by community...

And this is exactly what the country needs in my opinion. Thats what will happen when Sean Gallagher is elected and this is why I am so pro Mr. Gallagher and pledge my support in achieving this task .

I just hope the people of this great nation can see past these minor allegations and focus on the bigger picture and what we can accomplish together as a nation with the right guidance and structure in place which I know Sean will provide with us working together we actually can control our destiny.

So is he running for the position of Minister for Trade and Enterprise then? Because none of all that job creation malarky is within the remit of the president.

EamonM · 26-10-2011 01:14AM

bad2dabone wrote: »

Taken from:
http://www.politics.ie/forum/irish-presidential-election-2011/174235-comparing-what-gallagher-told-dobbo-tonight-rachael-english-5-days-ago.html

Dobson: You say and indeed Mr Morgan says he never met you before he didn't know you when he made

Gallagher: nor since

Dobson: it was a cold call if you like to see if he'd come along to this event

Gallagher: somebody had given me his name...

Dobson: presumably you phoned him up and he asked about this and you told him that there would be a donation of €5,000 expected to attend this

Gallagher: what I was asked to say was that there was a level of up to €5,000, I have no idea, until I saw this

Dobson: that's what you told him

Gallagher: correct

Dobson: that he would pay €5,000 for this

Gallagher: make a donation up to

Dobson: but previously your spokesperson said that you had not solicited a donation for Fianna Fail. That's not true is it?

Gallagher: no, that's not true, what I said was that there was a fundraising event happening and if he liked to come along he could make a donation

Dobson: right, and that doesn't count as soliciting, no?

Gallagher: I'm saying that that's what I said

Dobson: was that not soliciting a donation?

Gallagher: well it could be

Dobson: why did your spokesperson say you did not solicit a donation

Gallagher: I'm not sure what my spokesman said but I'm telling you now exactly what I said

Dobson: Well I'll give you now that quote. Your spokesman said that "at no point did he actively solicit any donation, he would have been in touch with a number of people he knew to tell them it was on". To discover you didn't actually know Mr Morgan.

Gallagher: Correct

Dobson: But that's not true either.

Gallagher: Well no no let me clarify. I asked a number of business people in the area did they want to attend and one of them obviously recommended Mr. Morgan as somebody who might like to attend.

Dobson: So you did ask people who you didn't know as it turns out

Gallagher: I asked people I did know and if they recommended someone else that they knew

Dobson: right

Gallagher: and so I was not aware of this

Dobson: so you did invite people who you didn't know and you did solicit a donation from at least one fo those people

Gallagher: this was a fundraising event and I informed anyone that I rang there was a level up to which they could nominate or donate and that they would make that payable to Fianna Fáil Headquarters

Dobson: Just finally, none of this is remotely remarkable at all, it's what you would expect someone who's involved in a political party to do after an election to try to rebuild

Gallagher: absolutely correct

Dobson: to ring around and ask people to come along and support us and you were doing whatever any other senior Fianna Fail figure

Gallagher: Well I wasn't a senior Fianna Fail figure

Dobson: Well you were a campaign director for a TD at the time

Gallagher: well I had been in 2007 and I was quite happy to assist the event by inviting local businesspeople. Now, the allegation is made that there is something corrupt, the cheque was made out to Fianna Fail Headquarters and I did not collect

Dobson: you have not been telling the truth

Gallagher: no not at all

Dobson: that's the allegation, there's no allegation of corruption here at all

Gallagher: one of the first things, I always tell the truth, anyone's who's watched my campaign knows two things, one I do not get involved in negative campaigning and two I always tell the truth, always.

Dobson: Sean Gallagher we'll leave it there, thanks for talking to us.

__________________________________________________________

And can we (again) point out what he told Rachael English on Morning Ireland?

English: So you rang people up and invited them?

Gallagher: No, people that I met, I explained that there was this event coming up. I have to make it very clear, I sought no money, I received no money from anybody, that was dealt with by Headquarters Fianna Fail Headquarters. I also want to make it very clear that while I attended the event I was not asked for money, I made no contribution myself in either a personal capacity or as a corporate donation either before the event, during the event, or after the event.

English: How many people did you invite?

Gallagher: I think I mentioned to possibly three or four people, and I have no idea to this day whether or not they made a donation whatsoever.

Sean Gallagher is a liar, and not fit for the role of President of our Nation. He represents the worst, slimy, sneaky, brown envelope cheating brand of politician. To vote for him is to approve of that brand of politics.

An event that focuses on business leaders coming together to try and achieve a goal while helping out the government through a few donations(not personal ones i might add) is something to be applaud not ridiculed.

I think you will find that when elected Sean can apply his enterprising skills and knowledge to grow the businesses in this country,

I know for a fact there is already a business plan in place and new task force ready to be implemented to reinvent the thirty three Enterprise boards in the country to inject a new dynamic approach to fresh start up businesses and re-energise the existing SME and rebuild the foundations in this country from the ground up village by village community by community...

And this is exactly what the country needs in my opinion. Thats what will happen when Sean Gallagher is elected and this is why I am so pro Mr. Gallagher and pledge my support in achieving this task .

I just hope the people of this great nation can see past these minor allegations and focus on the bigger picture and what we can accomplish together as a nation with the right guidance and structure in place which I know Sean will provide with us working together we actually can control our destiny.

books4sale · 26-10-2011 01:14AM

spider guardian wrote: »

That's fair enough. But do you know for a fact that Sean Gallagher would not do good for the country if he was elected?

I'd say he would do good for himself first.

FFailers are all the same, party and themselves come first.

Thats why the country is bust.

EamonM · 26-10-2011 01:15AM

books4sale wrote: »

I'd say he would do good for himself first.

FFailers are all the same, party and themselves come first.

Thats why the country is bust.

An event that focuses on business leaders coming together to try and achieve a goal while helping out the government through a few donations(not personal ones i might add) is something to be applaud not ridiculed.

I think you will find that when elected Sean can apply his enterprising skills and knowledge to grow the businesses in this country,

I know for a fact there is already a business plan in place and new task force ready to be implemented to reinvent the thirty three Enterprise boards in the country to inject a new dynamic approach to fresh start up businesses and re-energise the existing SME and rebuild the foundations in this country from the ground up village by village community by community...

And this is exactly what the country needs in my opinion. Thats what will happen when Sean Gallagher is elected and this is why I am so pro Mr. Gallagher and pledge my support in achieving this task .

I just hope the people of this great nation can see past these minor allegations and focus on the bigger picture and what we can accomplish together as a nation with the right guidance and structure in place which I know Sean will provide with us working together we actually can control our destiny.

books4sale · 26-10-2011 01:16AM

EamonM wrote: »

I just hope the people of this great nation can see past these minor allegations and focus on the bigger picture.

Ehhh....NO!

The bigger picture is the FFailers and their type broke the country.

It's like a bad garden, nothing will change until we weed every last one of them out.

MadsL · 26-10-2011 01:17AM

EamonM wrote: »

I think you will find he can apply his enterprising skills and knowledge to grow the businesses in the country,

I know for a fact there is already a business plan in place and new task force ready to be implemented to reinvent the thirty three Enterprise boards in the country to inject a new dynamic approach to fresh start up businesses and re-energise the existing SME and rebuild the foundations in this country from the ground up village by village community by community...

A business plan that he has failed to mention in his campaigning. Saving it up for a inauguration suprise is he..:rolleyes:

Next you will be telling us he's got a plan to get us out of the trioka's debt.

I, for one, am out.

An event that focuses on business leaders coming together to try and achieve a goal while helping out the government through a few donations(not personal ones i might add) is something to be applaud not ridiculed.

What horse****, Cowen fobbed them off with blab about a soft-landing. They were squeezing the last gullible fools out of their Tiger 'winnings'.

Jayob10 · 26-10-2011 01:18AM

EamonM wrote: »

An event that focuses on business leaders coming together to try and achieve a goal while helping out the government through a few donations(not personal ones i might add) is something to be applaud not ridiculed.

I think you will find that when elected Sean can apply his enterprising skills and knowledge to grow the businesses in this country,

I know for a fact there is already a business plan in place and new task force ready to be implemented to reinvent the thirty three Enterprise boards in the country to inject a new dynamic approach to fresh start up businesses and re-energise the existing SME and rebuild the foundations in this country from the ground up village by village community by community...

And this is exactly what the country needs in my opinion. Thats what will happen when Sean Gallagher is elected and this is why I am so pro Mr. Gallagher and pledge my support in achieving this task .

I just hope the people of this great nation can see past these minor allegations and focus on the bigger picture and what we can accomplish together as a nation with the right guidance and structure in place which I know Sean will provide with us working together we actually can control our destiny.

second time you have posted that.

is this offically brainwashing now?

bad2dabone · 26-10-2011 01:21AM

EamonM wrote: »

An event that focuses on business leaders coming together to try and achieve a goal while helping out the government through a few donations(not personal ones i might add) is something to be applaud not ridiculed.

an event where those who can afford it can pay to gain access to the Taoiseach makes me sick to my stomach. The government weren't being helped, the FF party were.

You're clearly a troll or have mental problems.

I won't be engaging you in debate any further.

Bannasidhe · 26-10-2011 01:21AM

EamonM wrote: »

An event that focuses on business leaders coming together to try and achieve a goal while helping out the government through a few donations(not personal ones i might add) is something to be applaud not ridiculed.

Translation - Those who can pay can have access to the Taoiseach

I think you will find that when elected Sean can apply his enterprising skills and knowledge to grow the businesses in this country,

trans: He's a great man with a grant application and creative bookkeeping.

I know for a fact there is already a business plan in place and new task force ready to be implemented to reinvent the thirty three Enterprise boards in the country to inject a new dynamic approach to fresh start up businesses and re-energise the existing SME and rebuild the foundations in this country from the ground up village by village community by community...

trans - the poster doesn't understand the role of the President.

And this is exactly what the country needs in my opinion. Thats what will happen when Sean Gallagher is elected and this is why I am so pro Mr. Gallagher and pledge my support in achieving this task .

trans - it would be boring if we all thought the same wouldn't it.

I just hope the people of this great nation can see past these minor allegations and focus on the bigger picture and what we can accomplish together as a nation with the right guidance and structure in place which I know Sean will provide with us working together we actually can control our destiny.

Trans - I for one will welcome our Chinese Overlords.

VB had some interesting stuff on Gallagher's business dealings didn't he. (Trans - ohh look, more dodgy stuff....)

EamonM · 26-10-2011 01:22AM

Bannasidhe wrote: »

So is he running for the position of Minister for Trade and Enterprise then? Because none of all that job creation malarky is within the remit of the president.

Can anyone in here actually define what the presidency is about besides upholding the constitution?

I know one thing that is the most important thing is the bread and butter issues and job creation without this we have no money, no pride, confidence etc. Every candidate has said that they are pledging to create employment both at home and from international investment, but who qualifies better for this than Sean with his experience and a comprehensive plan to focus on new enterprise.

Thats the focus and vision for a future Ireland:)

irishdude11 · 26-10-2011 01:24AM

EamonM wrote: »

I think you will find he can apply his enterprising skills and knowledge to grow the businesses in the country,

I know for a fact there is already a business plan in place and new task force ready to be implemented to reinvent the thirty three Enterprise boards in the country to inject a new dynamic approach to fresh start up businesses and re-energise the existing SME and rebuild the foundations in this country from the ground up village by village community by community...

And this is exactly what the country needs in my opinion. Thats what will happen when Sean Gallagher is elected and this is why I am so pro Mr. Gallagher and pledge my support in achieving this task .

I just hope the people of this great nation can see past these minor allegations and focus on the bigger picture and what we can accomplish together as a nation with the right guidance and structure in place which I know Sean will provide with us working together we actually can control our destiny.

LMAO at this blatant shill who joined today and who has been trying to defend Gallagher in every one of his 33 posts.

I have a message for you to give to Gallagher - Ask him what is he going to do for a living once when he fails to get elected to the Aras because his campaign ended in disgrace. An election campaign that ended in disgrace, a failed business with all its dodgy dealings aired in public, his reputation in tatters due to facts that have come out over the last week and very soon he will be an unemployed 50 year old. His corporate speaking job wont exist anymore as he has been found out as a failed businessman spoofer so please ask him what does a washed up FF spoofer plan to do with himself?

Maybe he'll go back to 'farming'....by the way I would also like you to ask him where he got the 14K to but a farm at the age of 21...Ive never known any 21 years olds with that kind of cash. Im sure he will have some waffle excuse for that too. Maybe he was charging 5K to fill out grant forms for GAA clubs even back then...

spider guardian · 26-10-2011 01:25AM

raymon wrote: »

Ok , a failed businessman / compulsive liar is good for the country how ?

Neither of your assertions stand up.

maccored wrote: »

I know this was for someone else, but I have to butt in. I have no trust in Sean Gallagher at all when its between his wealth and the good of the country. Thats just imo.

Understandable.

I am disappointed at the events of recent days. I haven't yet made my mind up about who to vote for. I honestly was considering Sean Gallagher, I thought he would be a breath of fresh air and would bring an enterprising spirit to the office. Always thought he was an intelligent man who came across well. His association with Fianna Fail (which despite what some posters here will have you believe, was obvious from the outset) didn't bother me, as Fianna Fail dominated politics in this country until very recently and not everyone in FF was corrupt and receiving backhanders from builders in the Galway tent. They were the party in power for the majority of the time since the foundation of the state and people who want to get ahead will gravitate towards those who call the shots. Unpalatable as that may be to some, that is life.

No doubt his campaign is in big trouble, and it is easy to see how his hesitation to answer questions and getting his answers mixed up can appear like he has something to hide but this has led posters here to portray him as a gangster, which is very unfair IMO. The person who accused him is hardly credible. Sean Gallagher fundraising for FF is not a revelation given his links to FF was already well-known.

All seems to be crashing down now after what was said on Vincent Browne. Such is the perils of topping opinion polls in the lead-up to polling day!

EamonM · 26-10-2011 01:28AM

Liam Byrne wrote: »

So you're saying that he never went to the house ?

No he never went to any house, the criminal at the heart of the sinn fein orchestra claimed he called to his business but that claim was denyed.:)

Is Sean Gallagher telling lies

Comments