Is Sean Gallagher telling lies

tonycascarino · 25-10-2011 11:49PM

You would have to wonder why Sean Gallagher refused to go on Vincent Browne tonight if he has nothing to hide

CDfm · 26-10-2011 12:00AM

raymon wrote: »

People on this thread are wise to your changing the subject

I seem to remember when I mentioned the Official Sinn Fein - Workers Party - Democratic Left becoming Labour gene pool you prefered not to discuss it.

Fairly predictable alliance with SF now doncha think.

spider guardian · 26-10-2011 12:02AM

flatbackfour wrote: »

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"

Repeat what again sorry? :rolleyes:

EamonM · 26-10-2011 12:07AM

Liam Byrne wrote: »

I think you missed my point. I was refuting the rubbish posted by Eamon M.

He never took any money you clown:D, The completely fabricated story is all over the place on the siin fein side end of.:)

KELTICKNIGHTT · 26-10-2011 12:07AM

raymon wrote: »

CdFm , Sean Gallaghers Facebook page is being over run by anti Sean Gallagher comments

Hint hint ........ you may want to go over there and muddy the waters there instead

People on this thread are wise to your changing the subject

you know :rolleyes:

CDfm · 26-10-2011 12:09AM

A quick recap

CDfm wrote: »

But I have shown here that none other than Eamonn Gilmore Leader of the Labour Party , of which Michael D Higgins is the official candidate, has not been forthright about his background and party membership's and affilliations. MDH is the Labour Party candidate and your chosen candidate.

So IMO you do not have the moral highground here, but, yet you insist on cherrypicking the standard and insisting others agree with you.

Bannasidhe wrote: »

and I have countered that argument by saying as Gilmore (and his 'stickie' past) is not a candidate his political background has no baring on a discussion of Michael D's (and his non-stickie past) suitability. Any more than a discussion of Enda Kenny is pertinent when deliberating on the suitability of Gay Mitchell...;)

raymon wrote: »

This thread is about Gallagher's lies.

Go ahead and open a thread about gilmore elsewhere , but it is irrelevant to this specific discussion

I don't even like the labour party so I don't really care

ninebeanrows · 26-10-2011 12:13AM

If Gallagher became President, how long would he last?

Liam Byrne · 26-10-2011 12:14AM

EamonM wrote: »

He never took any money you clown:D,

:rolleyes: Never suggested that he did.

EamonM wrote: »

The completely fabricated story is all over the place on the siin fein side end of.:)

How can it be "completely fabricated" if Gallagher ended up admitting it ?

EamonM · 26-10-2011 12:15AM

ironingbored wrote: »

I think I've had a change of heart. Any man who can sell a photo of Brian Cowen for €5K might be just who we need!

here here

raymon · 26-10-2011 12:18AM

CDfm wrote: »

I seem to remember when I mentioned the Official Sinn Fein - Workers Party - Democratic Left becoming Labour gene pool you prefered not to discuss it.

Fairly predictable alliance with SF now doncha think.

I have no interest with discussing off topic subjects with you.

I have no interest at all

The thread is about Gallaghers lies

As I said , another thread could possibly find your inputs very interesting and insightful
But I really have no interest ..... sorry

Happyman42 · 26-10-2011 12:21AM

OP, 'Is Sean Gallagher telling lies?'

I think we need a bigger thread. :rolleyes:

EamonM · 26-10-2011 12:21AM

spider guardian wrote: »

If this business man is so 'shady' then why should anyone believe what he says? Has it not occurred to you that this could all just be a Sinn Fein-hatchet job on Gallagher? Gallagher says he did not directly solicit him. Of course it looks bad for him but what Gallagher says is plausible.

In an ideal world it would be but we don't live in an ideal world. Why then do we not hear you criticise Sinn Fein for their 'game playing'?

Yes, let us celebrate Sinn Fein hatchet jobs instead.

Again spot on:) the country needs new business thats what Sean is good at creating he is the only person in there that can accomplish new business growth within the SME and i think we should all embrace that:)

Effluo · 26-10-2011 12:22AM

I doubt that there's any person in the country could top a poll and not be brought right back down again by the political parties and their media influences which imo destroys any hope of a non-political figure ever getting an opportunity to get elected to even an almost meaningless national role like the Presidency.

SG did nothing wrong only think he could win the presidency! This will have damaged him reputation almost irreparably I fear. I truly believe the guy was running with the best intentions at heart.

He is an independent candidate and tbh I'd far prefer to have an independent candidate to have the presidency than it be used as some trophy for a political party to be given out to an old man. Mary Robinson & Mary McAleese showed us what the presidency should be about. Out of the bunch we had running, from the terrible to the mediocre, I fear that only candidate which could have brought that position into a new kind of role has been thrown to the dogs...

I'm having a bad day

CDfm · 26-10-2011 12:24AM

ironingbored wrote: »

I think I've had a change of heart. Any man who can sell a photo of Brian Cowen for €5K might be just who we need!

You dont think

:eek:

dharn · 26-10-2011 12:24AM

to answer op s question yes he is telling lies

krd · 26-10-2011 12:24AM

spider guardian wrote: »

Who ever fund-raised for a political party out of the goodness of their heart?

I have.

And lots of other people have. Lots of people give their time and money, in support of political parties with no expectation of getting a material reward.

It's absolutely corrupt to fund a political party with the expectation of receiving a return on the "investment".

It's a matter of record that Fianna Fail's donations from builders were corrupt - even if it can't be proved the precise nature of the corruption. They weren't handing over swodges of cash, in brown envelopes ,and the like, to people like Bertie, to further Irish democracy. Were they?

People actually believe in democracy. Otherwise you just have a dictatorship of cute hoors, in cowshish covered wellington boots. Which is what a certain type of Irish patriot would like.

Now. I know Fianna Failers see the world differently. That life to them is like running a dirty little village shop, where they try to screw whoever comes through the door. And they think everyone else is either out to screw everyone else or they're just a fool.

A Fianna Fail Ireland is not an Ireland anyone could be proud of.

thebman · 26-10-2011 12:24AM

EamonM wrote: »

Again spot on:) the country needs new business thats what Sean is good at creating he is the only person in there that can accomplish new business growth within the SME and i think we should all embrace that:)

Leave him to creating the businesses then, he can't do that if he is elected president.

Your giving us great reasons to not vote for him.

EamonM · 26-10-2011 12:25AM

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Agreed. But this is the "shady business man" that McGun knows (to the extent where he has McGun's phone number) and believes.

Anything wrong with that, in your opinion?

Again they had over a month to prepare that attack on Sean and source his numbers, means nothing:) think outside the box guys come on were Irish

Jesus Wept · 26-10-2011 12:25AM

Effluo wrote: »

He is an independent candidate

ffs

bad2dabone · 26-10-2011 12:28AM

tonycascarino wrote: »

You would have to wonder why Sean Gallagher refused to go on Vincent Browne tonight if he has nothing to hide

He doesn't want to go head to head with Glenda Lynch for the third time and get destroyed again.

I've gone from liking Gallagher on Dragons Den to having nothing but utter utter contempt for the man. I despise his brand of politics and what it has done to our society and country. Worse than that I despise those who are too thick, either wilfully ignorant or just plain brain-dead, to realise the absolute catastrophe that FF have been to this nation. I have no time for the IRA but FF have caused far more damage to the country than the terrorists ever have. We will all be paying, through our taxes, through cuts in the standards of our childrens education, through cuts to our hospital services, our police, our basic standard of living, for YEARS for the damage that those group of gombeen men and their voters and apologists have caused.

thatsmyboy · 26-10-2011 12:29AM

I love the title of this thread "is sean gallagher telling lies" well far from me to call someone a liar but all i will say is HE AINT TELLING THE TRUTH

How stupid was he in all fairness to enter this race, he must have know in the modern days of media if ur in the spotlight u cant blow ur nose with out someone taking a picture.

He gave it a good go and im sure if he did not top the poll he would have been left alone, but when he did the media just simply did their job and report which im sure the dogs on the street knew if u were an insider that Mr Sean Gallagher has a murky backround and is not someone who is in a position to be the President of our country.

Come on voters wake up now too much information in the public eye and Mr Sean Gallagher can not explain one bit of where he got all this money.

Hey Seanie maybe you made all ur extra cash by backing horses....Who was it again who made a lot of money on horses ammmmmm oh yes another Fianna Fail man like urself Mr Gallagher

This is very simple to me

Sean Gallagher=Fianna Fail

Fianna Fail=Disaster and policies ruined Ireland

Sean Gallagher =Builder and Property Developer

Property Developers and Builders= Chancers and robbers and greedy fat cats who ruined Ireland

SO GO AHEAD PEOPLE VOTE SEAN GALLAGHER INTO THE ARAS( WE COULD NOT MAKE OURSELVES LOOK ANY MORE STUPID LOOKING TO THE OUTSIDE VIEWER THAN WE HAVE DONE IN THE LAST 3 YRS ANYWAYS)

bad2dabone · 26-10-2011 12:30AM

Effluo wrote: »

He is an independent candidate

Sure he is, Effluent.

how does he pay for his campaign when he earned 12k last year??

He has zero integrity and zero credibility.

EamonM · 26-10-2011 12:31AM

tonycascarino wrote: »

You would have to wonder why Sean Gallagher refused to go on Vincent Browne tonight if he has nothing to hide

He has already answered all the questions and explained himself over and over no need to keep doing it:)

Liam Byrne · 26-10-2011 12:31AM

EamonM wrote: »

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Agreed. But this is the "shady business man" that McGun knows (to the extent where he has McGun's phone number) and believes.

Anything wrong with that, in your opinion?

Again they had over a month to prepare that attack on Sean and source his numbers, means nothing:) think outside the box guys come on were Irish

Are you even reading posts ?

My question was how the dodgy businessman had McGun's phone number. If anything, your "means nothing" to what I said undermined your own argument.

But the misguided victim mentality re everyone being against poor aul Sean must be affecting your eyesight.

bad2dabone · 26-10-2011 12:33AM

EamonM wrote: »

He has already answered all the questions and explained himself over and over no need to keep doing it:)

he's done a great job of clearing up all the questions asked of him has he?

Your ignorance is astounding.

CDfm · 26-10-2011 12:34AM

raymon wrote: »

I have no interest with discussing off topic subjects with you.

I have no interest at all

The thread is about Gallaghers lies

As I said , another thread could possibly find your inputs very interesting and insightful
But I really have no interest ..... sorry

Other people comment on it too.

spider guardian wrote: »

If this business man is so 'shady' then why should anyone believe what he says? Has it not occurred to you that this could all just be a Sinn Fein-hatchet job on Gallagher? Gallagher says he did not directly solicit him. Of course it looks bad for him but what Gallagher says is plausible.

In an ideal world it would be but we don't live in an ideal world. Why then do we not hear you criticise Sinn Fein for their 'game playing'?

Yes, let us celebrate Sinn Fein hatchet jobs instead.

EamonM wrote: »

Again spot on:) the country needs new business thats what Sean is good at creating he is the only person in there that can accomplish new business growth within the SME and i think we should all embrace that:)

Effluo wrote: »

I doubt that there's any person in the country could top a poll and not be brought right back down again by the political parties and their media influences which imo destroys any hope of a non-political figure ever getting an opportunity to get elected to even an almost meaningless national role like the Presidency.

SG did nothing wrong only think he could win the presidency! This will have damaged him reputation almost irreparably I fear. I truly believe the guy was running with the best intentions at heart.

He is an independent candidate and tbh I'd far prefer to have an independent candidate to have the presidency than it be used as some trophy for a political party to be given out to an old man. Mary Robinson & Mary McAleese showed us what the presidency should be about. Out of the bunch we had running, from the terrible to the mediocre, I fear that only candidate which could have brought that position into a new kind of role has been thrown to the dogs...

I'm having a bad day

raymon · 26-10-2011 12:34AM

EamonM wrote: »

Again they had over a month to prepare that attack on Sean and source his numbers, means nothing:) think outside the box guys come on were Irish

Welcome to boards eamon .... quite a few of you Gallagher cheerleaders joined today .
Or maybe they were duplicate accounts

Good luck in your election..... pity he is a liar.

Don't wear your fingers out tonight

EamonM · 26-10-2011 12:37AM

Effluo wrote: »

I doubt that there's any person in the country could top a poll and not be brought right back down again by the political parties and their media influences which imo destroys any hope of a non-political figure ever getting an opportunity to get elected to even an almost meaningless national role like the Presidency.

SG did nothing wrong only think he could win the presidency! This will have damaged him reputation almost irreparably I fear. I truly believe the guy was running with the best intentions at heart.

He is an independent candidate and tbh I'd far prefer to have an independent candidate to have the presidency than it be used as some trophy for a political party to be given out to an old man. Mary Robinson & Mary McAleese showed us what the presidency should be about. Out of the bunch we had running, from the terrible to the mediocre, I fear that only candidate which could have brought that position into a new kind of role has been thrown to the dogs...

I'm having a bad day

I agree but Sean is strong enough and had pre empt everyone for this negative approach to try damage his campaign but he will still get in:D

Callan57 · 26-10-2011 12:38AM

I think it's time to change the title of this thread to 'How many lies has SG told?'

maccored · 26-10-2011 12:39AM

EamonM wrote: »

I agree but Sean is strong enough and had pre empt everyone for this negative approach to try damage his campaign but he will still get in:D

If he does then I think it will prove once and for all, that we the voters are a bunch of eejits.

Is Sean Gallagher telling lies

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