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Is Sean Gallagher telling lies

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭misty76


    K-9 wrote: »
    The problem is he is quoted in the Indo from a few days ago saying he didn't collect cheques and down playing his involvement.

    So while the Morgan statement seems better for him when comparing ot to the debate, it really isn't as it contradicts DG from a few days ago!


    What does the DG mean?? I really hope the irish see through this muppet on Thursday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,560 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    He's just the kind of cute hoor we need to bring in jobs from the multi nationals and get the economy going again. He'll do great work.

    As President? Give me a break! Let him back to his fabulous company and business interests so and create all these jobs he's been bleating constantly about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,335 ✭✭✭Mr.Micro


    Could one imagine SG moonlighting if he gets into the Aras.....doing a bit of this and that on the side in between the day job and a FF bag man at night collecting money and hawking portraits of Biffo, sorry Mehole now ( not that one would notice)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,333 ✭✭✭bad2dabone


    He's just the kind of cute hoor we need to bring in jobs from the multi nationals and get the economy going again. He'll do great work.

    How?? how will he bring in jobs??
    As President, the only job he'll create is his own, 200k a year for 14 years (perhaps) 2.8 million euro, plus a pension of 149k a year for perhaps the next 20 years, another 2.98 million euro. Bad Value.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭flatbackfour


    He's just the kind of cute hoor we need to bring in jobs from the multi nationals and get the economy going again. He'll do great work.


    I was trying to be ironic.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Mr.Micro wrote: »
    Could one imagine SG moonlighting if he gets into the Aras.....doing a bit of this and that on the side in between the day job and a FF bag man at night collecting money and hawking portraits of Biffo, sorry Mehole now ( not that one would notice)

    I'd buy a car from him :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,333 ✭✭✭bad2dabone


    I was trying to be ironic.

    sorry then :)

    I'm just so wound up that this chancer has so many people fooled, despite masses of evidence that he's a liar and a phony.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 884 ✭✭✭spider guardian


    Meaningless point. He took the cheque. He solicited money for a grubby fianna fail fund raiser. He took the cheque before and dilivered the photo after.

    In what way was it grubby? Are you so naive as to believe that political parties don't need money to function? Why is it OK for other parties to fundraise but not FF?
    He still took the cheque.

    I just cannot believe that I have people living beside, working alongside me, walking by me in the street, sipping coffee in fourcourts, etc etc who are actually voting for this guy. I dont want to look at people anymore. Are you voting for Sean Gallagher? It would turn me into travis bickle.

    Condescending rubbish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭flatbackfour


    In what way was it grubby? Are you so naive as to believe that political parties don't need money to function? Why is it OK for other parties to fundraise but not FF?

    Gallagher spouts about positivity and the future. When His own past is wrapped up in being a FF money collector. Begging business men for cheques for Cowen and the rest of his clowns.

    Why do you think he was doing that now?

    Out of the goodness of his heart?

    Civic duty?

    Pride in the party?

    Am i living in some parallel universe?

    he did it to gain influence.


    If he gets elected I will despair for my country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    In what way was it grubby? Are you so naive as to believe that political parties don't need money to function? Why is it OK for other parties to fundraise but not FF?


    Is it alleged it was a Northern Bank cheque ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭Alibaba


    Don't know who's right or wrong (Sean Gallagher or Mr. Morgan) but can't help thinking who in the f##k would want a photograph of themselves and Brian Cowen on their wall and pay E5,000 for it...
    Crazy.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,746 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    People that are unsure about who to vote for should consider the possibility that there is some scandal about Gallagher that will surface while Gallagher is in the Park - he will have to resign and we'll have to do this crap all over again.

    For me, he is not trustworthy and I won't be giving him a preference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 SmartHass


    Theres nothing presidential about SG, I cant imagine someone off dragons den winning a presidential election in any other country in the world, its laughable, hes gonna create jobs though..... yeah, thats been his ONLY selling point, go to trade missions, speak the language of businessmen (brown envelopes!) With no experience of ever having done anything like this before..... Honest to God, president of Ireland.... seriously?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,335 ✭✭✭Mr.Micro


    Alibaba wrote: »
    Don't know who's right or wrong (Sean Gallagher or Mr. Morgan) but can't help thinking who in the f##k would want a photograph of themselves and Brian Cowen on their wall and pay E5,000 for it...
    Crazy.......

    Well lets face it beside Biffo anyone would be good looking. Wicked of me to me mean:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 687 ✭✭✭WhatNowForUs?


    bad2dabone wrote: »
    Taken from:
    http://www.politics.ie/forum/irish-presidential-election-2011/174235-comparing-what-gallagher-told-dobbo-tonight-rachael-english-5-days-ago.html

    Dobson: You say and indeed Mr Morgan says he never met you before he didn't know you when he made

    Gallagher: nor since

    Dobson: it was a cold call if you like to see if he'd come along to this event

    Gallagher: somebody had given me his name...

    Dobson: presumably you phoned him up and he asked about this and you told him that there would be a donation of €5,000 expected to attend this

    Gallagher: what I was asked to say was that there was a level of up to €5,000, I have no idea, until I saw this

    Dobson: that's what you told him

    Gallagher: correct

    Dobson: that he would pay €5,000 for this

    Gallagher: make a donation up to

    Dobson: but previously your spokesperson said that you had not solicited a donation for Fianna Fail. That's not true is it?

    Gallagher: no, that's not true, what I said was that there was a fundraising event happening and if he liked to come along he could make a donation

    Dobson: right, and that doesn't count as soliciting, no?

    Gallagher: I'm saying that that's what I said

    Dobson: was that not soliciting a donation?

    Gallagher: well it could be

    Dobson: why did your spokesperson say you did not solicit a donation

    Gallagher: I'm not sure what my spokesman said but I'm telling you now exactly what I said

    Dobson: Well I'll give you now that quote. Your spokesman said that "at no point did he actively solicit any donation, he would have been in touch with a number of people he knew to tell them it was on". To discover you didn't actually know Mr Morgan.

    Gallagher: Correct

    Dobson: But that's not true either.

    Gallagher: Well no no let me clarify. I asked a number of business people in the area did they want to attend and one of them obviously recommended Mr. Morgan as somebody who might like to attend.

    Dobson: So you did ask people who you didn't know as it turns out

    Gallagher: I asked people I did know and if they recommended someone else that they knew

    Dobson: right

    Gallagher: and so I was not aware of this

    Dobson: so you did invite people who you didn't know and you did solicit a donation from at least one fo those people

    Gallagher: this was a fundraising event and I informed anyone that I rang there was a level up to which they could nominate or donate and that they would make that payable to Fianna Fáil Headquarters

    Dobson: Just finally, none of this is remotely remarkable at all, it's what you would expect someone who's involved in a political party to do after an election to try to rebuild

    Gallagher: absolutely correct


    Dobson: to ring around and ask people to come along and support us and you were doing whatever any other senior Fianna Fail figure

    Gallagher: Well I wasn't a senior Fianna Fail figure

    Dobson: Well you were a campaign director for a TD at the time

    Gallagher: well I had been in 2007 and I was quite happy to assist the event by inviting local businesspeople. Now, the allegation is made that there is something corrupt, the cheque was made out to Fianna Fail Headquarters and I did not collect

    Dobson: you have not been telling the truth

    Gallagher: no not at all

    Dobson: that's the allegation, there's no allegation of corruption here at all

    Gallagher: one of the first things, I always tell the truth, anyone's who's watched my campaign knows two things, one I do not get involved in negative campaigning and two I always tell the truth, always.

    Dobson: Sean Gallagher we'll leave it there, thanks for talking to us.


    __________________________________________________________

    And can we (again) point out what he told Rachael English on Morning Ireland?

    English: So you rang people up and invited them?

    Gallagher: No, people that I met, I explained that there was this event coming up. I have to make it very clear, I sought no money, I received no money from anybody, that was dealt with by Headquarters Fianna Fail Headquarters. I also want to make it very clear that while I attended the event I was not asked for money, I made no contribution myself in either a personal capacity or as a corporate donation either before the event, during the event, or after the event.

    English: How many people did you invite?

    Gallagher: I think I mentioned to possibly three or four people, and I have no idea to this day whether or not they made a donation whatsoever.



    Sean Gallagher is a liar, and not fit for the role of President of our Nation. He represents the worst, slimy, sneaky, brown envelope cheating brand of politician. To vote for him is to approve of that brand of politics.


    Well done. Game over with regards to the title thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭flatbackfour


    People that are unsure about who to vote for should consider the possibility that there is some scandal about Gallagher that will surface while Gallagher is in the Park - he will have to resign and we'll have to do this crap all over again.

    For me, he is not trustworthy and I won't be giving him a preference.


    He is a spoofer, he was always a spoofer. Thats reason enough not to vote for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭flatbackfour


    A scarier point is the fact that he there is a huge amount of Irish people today who think this guy would be a good president.

    And that is why this country is in the **** hole its in right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭brownswiss


    bad2dabone wrote: »
    sorry then :)

    I'm just so wound up that this chancer has so many people fooled, despite masses of evidence that he's a liar and a phony.
    .......

    40% of FG and 20% of Labour giving Gallagher their number 1.....

    not a hope of stopping him now.... if he pulls this off de deserves a lot of credit as he has nothing good to offer us and we as a Nation deserve him


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,152 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    Really? So the fact that the date of the cheque is BEFORE the event, and the fact that that exposes as false his claim that he may have collected a cheque when delivering a photo, completely goes over your head ?

    If he delivered the photo afterwards, why was he there before the event?

    Meaningless point. He took the cheque. He solicited money for a grubby fianna fail fund raiser. He took the cheque before and dilivered the photo after.

    He still took the cheque.

    I think you missed my point. I was refuting the rubbish posted by Eamon M.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    to the OP's question:-
    Is the pope a nazi?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭flatbackfour


    brownswiss wrote: »
    .......

    40% of FG and 20% of Labour giving Gallagher their number 1.....

    not a hope of stopping him now.... if he pulls this off de deserves a lot of credit as he has nothing good to offer us and we as a Nation deserve him


    Here here,

    He will not be elected. He wont even be close.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    brownswiss wrote: »
    .......

    40% of FG and 20% of Labour giving Gallagher their number 1.....

    not a hope of stopping him now.... if he pulls this off de deserves a lot of credit as he has nothing good to offer us and we as a Nation deserve him

    That says more about FG and Labour than about him .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭flatbackfour


    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    I think you missed my point. I was refuting the rubbish posted by Eamon M.

    No, I did miss your point:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    misty76 wrote: »
    What does the DG mean?? I really hope the irish see through this muppet on Thursday.

    Apologies, typo, SG for Sean Gallagher.

    Spotlight programme on McGuinness on BBC1 NI now if anybody is interested!

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 456 ✭✭Derfil


    Q. Is Sean Gallagher telling lies?

    A. Hell yeah.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭Tea drinker


    Alv_M wrote: »
    to be honest i personally believe that the whole lot of the candidates are wrong for the job, but i feel sean gallagher might be the best of a bad bunch!
    I hear what you are saying, but to me McGuinness is easily his equal with more charm. Sean is to sleevin for me. Too many links to the old guard for me. At this stage FF have to be kept away from any position where we possibly can keep them from. Allegations about Sean have surfaced and keep on coming out - it's obvious the cut of his cloth and I can't see how people could contenance another insider (with a change of clothes) in a position of authority. I honestly believe that FF could be killing babies in O'Connell street and they would still get 10% vote.

    A lot of people complain about Mcguinnesses past, but there are precedents for this. The "war" is over for several years here but in Kosovo the leader of the resistance/terrorists was elected president immediate after the war. The Irish state recognised and supported this.

    Maggie Thatcher had the shoot to kill policy and through a combination of ruthlessness and incompetence drove the conflict to new depths.
    She was also harbouring Pinochet, and is still a very popular woman today.
    Mcguinness is a saint in comparison.

    anyway another thing that galls me is so many Irish were cheering and supportive when Gaddaffi was executed without trial and after torture, can then turn around all clean and nice speaking about McGuinness. If the shoe fits.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭misty76


    K-9 wrote: »
    Apologies, typo, SG for Sean Gallagher.

    Spotlight programme on McGuinness on BBC1 NI now if anybody is interested!

    Cool, thanks.. watching the programme on tv3 about the puppy farming, this country really is a joke : (


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 884 ✭✭✭spider guardian


    Gallagher spouts about positivity and the future. When His own past is wrapped up in being a FF money collector. Begging business men for cheques for Cowen and the rest of his clowns.

    Why do you think he was doing that now?

    Out of the goodness of his heart?

    Civic duty?

    Pride in the party?

    Am i living in some parallel universe?

    he did it to gain influence.


    If he gets elected I will despair for my country.

    A lot of people voted for 'Cowen and his clowns'. A lot of people raised money for 'Cowen and his clowns'. A lot of people canvassed for 'Cowen and his clowns' down throughout the years. You are making out that all those people are guilty by association. Not so. A lot of former FF supporters are rightly disgusted by what went on. However FF still command support up and down the country. Gallagher is going for election, and entirely denouncing FF would cost him a hefty chunk of votes. It would have been more astute if he had criticised the leadership, but for whatever reason he didn't do that.

    You mightn't like his tactics, but that is how elections are won. We all knew he was from the FF gene-pool, why him fund raising for FF would shock anyone seems daft to me. You say he did this to gain influence, this is hardly surprising behaviour from someone with ambitions to be president, that's the way the game works. It's not a bad thing to play it if it can put you in a position where you can do good for your country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭Crazy Horse 6


    Gallagher will poll behind both Micheal D and McGuinness to finish third imo. He may even finish behind Norris such is the tool he made of himself these last 24hrs.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,152 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    I think you missed my point. I was refuting the rubbish posted by Eamon M.

    No, I did miss your point:)

    Er - OK - colour me confused now.

    "No you didn't" miss it or "Yes you did" ?


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