Is Sean Gallagher telling lies

raymon · 08-10-2011 11:06AM #1

Sean Gallagher is not telling the full truth about his very very recent involvement in FF in my opinion

There are various sightings of him at FF meetings up until a few months ago

This appearance was from February

[url]Http://mayonews.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=11920:dragon-heralds-dara-as-the-face-of-change&catid=94:election-2011&Itemid=38[/url]

I don't like dishonest people

raymon · 08-10-2011 11:11AM

THE Fianna Fail party faithful descended on Ballina in their hundreds to launch the Dara Calleary election campaign on Friday night last.RTÉ Dragon’s Den star, Sean Gallagher, officially launched the campaign at a function in the Downhill House Hotel, describing Ballina’s outgoing Minister of State as ‘a fabulous, outstanding confident debater and communicator at all levels’.Mr Gallagher showered praise on the Ballina man, but also acknowledged that ‘Fianna Fail machine is sluggish’ adding that the current political system needs to be overhauled if the country is to emerge from economic recession.“I believe that Dara is the face of change in the political environment. We have seen that the political environment has not worked for the past number of years but politics is changing. What we have had up to now to get us here, will not work to get us to there in the future. But it can change, and with people like Dara it will happen and it will work again,” he said.Referring to the economic crisis, Mr Gallagher added that while the political system has focused on the macro economics concerning such issues as gross domestic products in the recent past, it now ‘needs to turn its attention to the micro politics, because the majority of people live their lives in the micro economics of funding education, paying their mortgage and budgeting for their existence’.

skregs · 08-10-2011 11:11AM

Yes.

So for that reason, I'm out.

Paddy De Plasterer · 08-10-2011 02:41PM

Gallagher is today caught telling further lies. He said he left Fianna Fail national executive in 2009, but according to story in to days Mail, he only left this past January just before General election. And he launched several FF campaigns in Feb, including Callearys, Ann Leonard in Monaghan and others. He is just a typical FF stooge who fled the nest when it became rotten and dirty.

CDfm · 08-10-2011 04:25PM

I do not know - but it is probable that he left because of his TV show particiapation.

So I do not think you can catergorically say he lied and a celebrity appearence by a celebrity to launch something.

jonniebgood1 · 08-10-2011 04:52PM

raymon wrote: »

Sean Gallagher is not telling the full truth about his very very recent involvement in FF in my opinion

There are various sightings of him at FF meetings up until a few months ago

This appearance was from February

[url]Http://mayonews.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=11920:dragon-heralds-dara-as-the-face-of-change&catid=94:election-2011&Itemid=38[/url]

I don't like dishonest people

Where has he been dishonest. I have heard him on many occasions say that he has supported FF.
Do you think he is denying that he supported FF?

raymon · 08-10-2011 05:49PM

jonniebgood1 wrote: »

Where has he been dishonest. I have heard him on many occasions say that he has supported FF.
Do you think he is denying that he supported FF?

What a liar this guy is he is still denying it.

http://www.herald.ie/news/gallagher-rejects-claim-he-was-involved-with-ff-up-to-january-2900375.html

ArmaniJeanss · 08-10-2011 06:04PM

I'm still technically a member of Xtravision, even though I the last time I hired a DVD from them it was probably actually a video cassette.

So there may not be any real lie in what SG is saying here, just a question of semantics.

raymon · 08-10-2011 06:09PM

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

I'm still technically a member of Xtravision, even though I the last time I hired a DVD from them it was probably actually a video cassette.

So there may not be any real lie in what SG is saying here, just a question of semantics.

This liar was going door to door until recently, and giving FF speeches until Feb 11

CDfm · 08-10-2011 06:09PM

raymon wrote: »

What a liar this guy is he is still denying it.

http://www.herald.ie/news/gallagher-rejects-claim-he-was-involved-with-ff-up-to-january-2900375.html

I can't see anything inflamatory and relative to the outright whoppers Irish politicians are capable of he has nothing on Gilmore

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/letters/2010/1018/1224281343708.html

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2010/1009/1224280698939.html

In fact, his reticence causes me to be distrustful of Michael D Higgins and his associations.

On the candidates that are not candid are MMG & Norris and do not even pretend to be.

raymon · 08-10-2011 06:18PM

CDfm wrote: »

I can't see anything inflamatory and relative to the outright whoppers Irish politicians are capable of he has nothing on Gilmore

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/letters/2010/1018/1224281343708.html

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2010/1009/1224280698939.html

In fact, his reticence causes me to be distrustful of Michael D Higgins and his associations.

On the candidates that are not candid are MMG & Norris and do not even pretend to be.

This thread is about Gallagher being a liar.(or not )

please keep on topic

jonniebgood1 · 08-10-2011 06:20PM

raymon wrote: »

What a liar this guy is he is still denying it.

http://www.herald.ie/news/gallagher-rejects-claim-he-was-involved-with-ff-up-to-january-2900375.html

Im sorry but you have called SG a 'liar' many times on this thread without backing up your assertion. The story you linked to is dated today and it is consistent and fits in with my understanding of his association with FF. My understanding comes from a few radio items such as being interviewed by Pat Kenny approx 1 and a half months ago and then some of the recent debates. So he was involved with FF, I dislike that but then nobodys perfect. Your newspaper link does not show any lie, rather a play on words (i.e. what does 'closely connected' mean).

As you have started a thread that with a post that says this man is dishonest then there is an onus on you to prove that and so far you have failed to do it.

CDfm · 08-10-2011 06:27PM

raymon wrote: »

This thread is about Gallagher being a liar.(or not )

please keep on topic

I was on the board of a national charity and when I left I hardly remember if I completed any paperwork and am almost certain I didn't.

Compared with Eamonn Gilmore's gaps in memory or MMG's IRA leadership -its is positively refreshing that Sean Gallagher is so frank.

Peep O'Day · 08-10-2011 06:34PM

Paddy De Plasterer wrote: »

Gallagher is today caught telling further lies. He said he left Fianna Fail national executive in 2009, but according to story in to days Mail, he only left this past January just before General election. And he launched several FF campaigns in Feb, including Callearys, Ann Leonard in Monaghan and others. He is just a typical FF stooge who fled the nest when it became rotten and dirty.

talk about damned if you do and damned if you don't! is that not the time one should be leaving? i.e when they believe the party they were once fond of has become "rotten and dirty", would you have preferred if he had stayed?

big bloody deal if he had been in FF at some stage, as someone said over half the country had been in and/or voted for them at some point in their lives.

Alv_M · 08-10-2011 06:42PM

to be honest i personally believe that the whole lot of the candidates are wrong for the job, but i feel sean gallagher might be the best of a bad bunch!

CDfm · 08-10-2011 07:53PM

Alv_M wrote: »

to be honest i personally believe that the whole lot of the candidates are wrong for the job, but i feel sean gallagher might be the best of a bad bunch!

And there seems to be lot of the electorate that agree with you.

Maybe FG & Labour need a watchdog .

raymon · 08-10-2011 07:57PM

CDfm wrote: »

Maybe FG & Labour need a watchdog .

I agree , but someone of integrity and honesty would be good

Gallagher is neither

CDfm · 08-10-2011 08:07PM

CDfm wrote: »

And there seems to be lot of the electorate that agree with you.

Maybe FG & Labour need a watchdog .

raymon wrote: »

I agree , but someone of integrity and honesty would be good

Gallagher is neither

Alv_M wrote: »

to be honest i personally believe that the whole lot of the candidates are wrong for the job, but i feel sean gallagher might be the best of a bad bunch!

That seems to put it in a nutshell.

I'm convinced.

Liam Byrne · 08-10-2011 08:21PM

Alv_M wrote: »

to be honest i personally believe that the whole lot of the candidates are wrong for the job, but i feel sean gallagher might be the best of a bad bunch!

Better than Michael D ? How so ?

CDfm · 08-10-2011 08:30PM

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Better than Michael D ? How so ?

Michael D's anti American foreign policy record is a big negative

A bit Pro Saddam ???? Pro Castro's Cuba too.

Alv_M · 08-10-2011 08:32PM

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Better than Michael D ? How so ?

i just personally feel that he's too old now to carry out an effective role as president, i know he's been saying his health is good and all that but its 7 years! whereas gallagher is young and he seems to have a good idea about how we can move forward and he's not talking about the past and what he's experienced like other candidates have been doing and i just personally feel he's the best bet for the job! overall id rather a better pool of candidates, this bunch arent the best!

Mr.Micro · 08-10-2011 08:34PM

CDfm wrote: »

Michael D's anti American foreign policy record is a big negative

A bit Pro Saddam ???? Pro Castro's Cuba too.

Its called honesty you may find.....rare these days.

Bannasidhe · 08-10-2011 08:34PM

CDfm wrote: »

I can't see anything inflamatory and relative to the outright whoppers Irish politicians are capable of he has nothing on Gilmore

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/letters/2010/1018/1224281343708.html

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2010/1009/1224280698939.html

In fact, his reticence causes me to be distrustful of Michael D Higgins and his associations.

.

No doubts that Gilmore, Howlan, Lynch and Rabbitte are/were stickies -personally I would have no issue with this and it is pretty easy to work out who is 'old' Labour by simply looking who was in Democratic Left before the merger with Labour. DL = Stickie.

That whole controversy re: Gilmore, if I remember correctly, was a claim he was in PSF in UCG - a claim that seems to be completely unfounded.

Regardless I don't think Gilmore's past is a valid reason to criticise Higgins. TBH.

As for Gallagher's links to FF - technically, McGuinness is running as an Independent - but we all see him as an SF 'independent'. I would like it to be clarified if Gallagher is, in reality, an FF 'independent'.

CDfm · 08-10-2011 08:35PM

Mr.Micro wrote: »

Its called honesty you may find.....rare these days.

And, are such views in a President of Ireland in the National Interest ?

LostinKildare · 08-10-2011 08:35PM

Raymon, I agree with you that Gallagher hasn’t played straight with us.

Gallagher was quoted in Monday's Irish Times saying that "I left any involvement in Fianna Fáil in terms of being a member of the party or being active back in 2009 because I felt that the party had moved away from its grassroots, the ordinary people who were struggling,"

yet in November 2010 he reportedly canvassed with the FF candidate in the Donegal by-election (seems unlikely to me that, having left FF in disillusionment, he would slog around Donegal in the winter on behalf of the party),

in December 2010 he very publically considered standing for Dermot Ahern's seat in the general election, as FF officials praised him in the Irish Independent as Fianna Fail through and through, and as one of the "new Fianna Fail" who would re-energize the party,

in early January 2011 he was still a member of the 100-member National Executive (I find it very hard to believe that FF would allow a non-member of the party to remain on the executive 1+ years after he'd left the party),

and as you say, in February 2011 he launched (not just made a celebrity appearance at) the campaigns of FF colleagues.

Are these not evidence that he was indeed "active," despite his supposed disillusionment with and separation from the party?
(All of the above are referenced, with links provided, in the other Gallagher thread. I am not in the habit of repeating myself )

BTW, despite Gallagher's claim to have left the party because they had lost their way, he seems happy enough to have FF old hands manage his current campaign:

Independent Sean Gallagher has hired veteran adviser Richard Moore, a familiar figure in media circles having worked side-by-side with FF’s Dermot Ahern for 10 years. . . Gallagher, despite trying to distance himself from FF, also has a former party press officer as well as a party activist working for him.

http://www.examiner.ie/ireland/strong-campaign-teams-crucial-to-presidential-hopefuls-169530.html#ixzzia7yYhpiZ

Mr.Micro · 08-10-2011 08:39PM

CDfm wrote: »

And, are such views in a President of Ireland in the National Interest ?

Honesty is always admired you will find no matter if one agrees or not, and I doubt if it would affect our national interest one little bit since the role of President is largely ceremonial.

CDfm · 08-10-2011 08:58PM

Bannasidhe wrote: »

That whole controversy re: Gilmore, if I remember correctly, was a claim he was in PSF in UCG - a claim that seems to be completely unfounded.

I shook hands with Michael D today at the local supermarket where he was canvasing with a very fresh facedProinsios de Rossa ,a stickie himself, in tow.

Michael D , whatever his origans, is definately at the far left of Labour.

A bit off topic, where do they get the names from Proinsios de Rossa was Frank Ross, Mary Lou was Maire Ni Domhnaill and Michael Daniel Higgins was probably never called Dee by his parents.

As for Gallagher's links to FF - technically, McGuinness is running as an Independent - but we all see him as an SF 'independent'. I would like it to be clarified if Gallagher is, in reality, an FF 'independent'.

Known associates have joined to a/k/a known aliases in Irish Politics X factor presidency.Jedward won the national song contest on TLL ...

MadsL · 08-10-2011 09:07PM

technically, McGuinness is running as an Independent

interesting then that when I sent a large attachment to his mail at admin@thepeoplespresident.ie, I got a bounce from press@dublinsinnfein.com

Mr.Micro · 08-10-2011 09:15PM

MadsL wrote: »

interesting then that when I sent a large attachment to his mail at admin@thepeoplespresident.ie, I got a bounce from press@dublinsinnfein.com

you were lucky it was just a bounce

MadsL · 08-10-2011 09:16PM

I was bitching about the campaign flypostering. I thought better of including my name and address

CDfm · 08-10-2011 09:22PM

Mr.Micro wrote: »

Honesty is always admired you will find no matter if one agrees or not, and I doubt if it would affect our national interest one little bit since the role of President is largely ceremonial.

The issue of MMG's non American Investor friendly credentials could equally be levelled at Mickey D.

Foreign policy wise he may be to the left of MMG and it is Phil Hogan of FG who raised the US investor as an election issue.

The president has a very important ceremonial function at foreign affairs and many people have pointed to Mary McAleese's contribitions to the Peace Process.

So it is a bit more than ceremonial .

Is Sean Gallagher telling lies

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