Do people with no job..........

AudreyHepburn · 24-10-2011 08:47AM

In general people who moan about their jobs don't bother, I just let them at it.

However when I was unemployed and really struggling to find work it used to really get my goat when people moaned about their jobs. I don't care how annoying it is to hear, if you have a job at the moment then you are lucky whether you like it or not. This is coming from some-one who spent six months struggling to get work and unable to get the dole. I know how lucky I am to be working. People really need to learn to be a little more grareful.

Lando Griffin · 24-10-2011 09:09AM

These type of threads disturb me.
One way to put a stop to this kind of spite is to introduce a job swap senario, where a person on the dole comes in to do your job for a week, and you stay at home smoking spliffs and drinking Duth Gold eating pizza and watching daytime television, (you are also allowed three trips to the bookies) But also as part of the agreement you must spend at least 10% of your time getting turned down for jobs.
The person on the Job side of the swap must put all the skills learned on the building sites to one side for the week and stick to one task at a time and not be rushing off to different tasks leaving each and every one of them unfinished and useless. They must also partake in a full weeks work, no running down to the shop getting supplies every few hours and taking holidays in the middle of the process.

24-10-2011 09:26AM

Colilfc wrote: »

Give us a job? Sound man.

How d'you know he runs a recording studio? And do you really think he needs a sound man?

im invisible · 24-10-2011 09:34AM

woodoo wrote: »

Did you not tell those two unemployed wretches that you are paying for their drink.

thats probably what started the whole thing off...

Eve_Dublin · 24-10-2011 10:16AM

DjFlin wrote: »

I'm unemployed. I'm envious of my friends who have jobs, but I don't take the p*ss out of them for it, doesn't make sense to do so.

I will say this though, a friend of mine works in a McDonald's, and does nothing but bitch and moan about how much he hates it, and how he'd rather be unemployed (Wont quit though). It really drives me insane, he complains about having to work weekends, hell, I'd work every day of the week for a solid pay.

People are entitled to have a moan about their job and this whole, "Oh you're lucky to have one" malarky IS true but Jesus, the guy is only human, give him a break. I can imagine working in McDonalds must be absolutely **** (speaking as person whose worked in the food service industry for many years back in the day). At least he didn't turn his nose up at the job like many others would. If you want to get into to that malarky, then you've no right to complain about being on the dole when there's millions of people with no work who are not receiving unemployment benefit indefinitely from their government.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 24-10-2011 10:18AM

Burn a few €20 notes in front of them next time you see them....thats sure to pacify them and make them realise they're being complete and utter twats!

DjFlin · 24-10-2011 10:22AM

AeoNGriM wrote: »

DWCommuter wrote: »

Now that I'm fairly okay running my own business and adapting to changed circumstances

Translation : I sell heroin on street corners and have two lads keepin' sketch for the Garda

Maybe you're just a cnut and people don't like you, OP?

DjFlin wrote: »

I'm unemployed. I'm envious of my friends who have jobs, but I don't take the p*ss out of them for it, doesn't make sense to do so.

I will say this though, a friend of mine works in a McDonald's, and does nothing but bitch and moan about how much he hates it, and how he'd rather be unemployed (Wont quit though). It really drives me insane, he complains about having to work weekends, hell, I'd work every day of the week for a solid pay.

Would ya ever shut the fcuk up, if you had to work seven days a week in McD's, you'ld get fcuked off after a couple months and be in the exact same situation as your mate, so stop being such a massive arsehole please.

He works two day a week. But your right, that's really f*cking hard, two whole days like, it could kill a man. Sorry for beingsuch a massive arsehole.

GeorgeBailey · 24-10-2011 10:23AM

DjFlin wrote: »

I will say this though, a friend of mine works in a McDonald's, and does nothing but bitch and moan about how much he hates it, and how he'd rather be unemployed (Wont quit though). It really drives me insane, he complains about having to work weekends,

Just because someone has a job doesn't mean they have to like it or that they shouldn't be allowed to complain about it.

DjFlin wrote: »

hell, I'd work every day of the week for a solid pay.

and if you did that I'd give you at most 2 months before you started complaining about it to anyone who'd listen

DjFlin · 24-10-2011 10:39AM

GeorgeBailey wrote: »

DjFlin wrote: »

I will say this though, a friend of mine works in a McDonald's, and does nothing but bitch and moan about how much he hates it, and how he'd rather be unemployed (Wont quit though). It really drives me insane, he complains about having to work weekends,

Just because someone has a job doesn't mean they have to like it or that they shouldn't be allowed to complain about it.

DjFlin wrote: »

hell, I'd work every day of the week for a solid pay.

and if you did that I'd give you at most 2 months before you started complaining about it to anyone who'd listen

I worked six days a week as a cleaner in a restaurant, I cleaned toilets, and washed the floors. Never once did I complain.

I'm only twenty, and it scares the living f*ck out of me that people my age feel so wronged by having to do a hard days work.

ShadowHearth · 24-10-2011 10:55AM

Sorry, but those who are on the dole have way happier faces, then the ones who work full time jobs.

I heard and read loads of stories where companies can't fill in positions they are offering. Those who are on dole are not arsed to go work full time for few quid extra per week.

I am working 6+ years here and I am between 5 jobs now. When I walked away or were let go, first thing I did was: make a cv and go to any restaurant, butcher shop in area. Most I waited for a job was 2 days. One time I already got a job, even before finishing my last day in previuos one when I was told "sorry, we are making cut backs, last in, first out"

I know there are people like me, who make cv first, not application for dole, but you can't ignore the face that there are soooo many freeloaders, who just taking system for a ride.

Eve_Dublin · 24-10-2011 11:00AM

DjFlin wrote: »

I worked six days a week as a cleaner in a restaurant, I cleaned toilets, and washed the floors. Never once did I complain.

I'm only twenty, and it scares the living f*ck out of me that people my age feel so wronged by having to do a hard days work.

People moan about work....that's what humans do. It's a necessary evil and people would rather have fun than work. That's a fact for almost every sane thinking person on this planet. Vast majority of people on this planet don't like working.

Do you think you're mate feels wronged or is just having a moan like the rest of us? Surely he's chosen to work over going on the dole and that says something? I understand how you must be feeling right now but I wouldn't take the moaning so seriously. It's just venting the spleen.

24-10-2011 11:26AM

DWCommuter wrote: »

......feel angry at people who have a job?

Lately I'm getting a lot of grief and **** from people who are unemployed. Many of them made more money than I did during the Celtic Tiger years, but obviously pissed it way. Now that I'm fairly okay running my own business and adapting to changed circumstances, I'm a little bit sick and tired of the begrudgery that unemployed people display towards me. I've done nothing wrong.

Tonight, I was abused to high heaven by a couple of assholes, (that are unemployed) who seem to dislike the fact that I'm in the pub when they are. The difference is, I can actually afford it and I doubt they can.

Is this a normal and healthy disconnect or am I being unfair or are the people who are unemployed, just angry and lashing out.

For the record, I was unemployed after leaving college in 1993 and then availed of Government incentives to start my own business. Still going, but got feck all out of the boom. However, the recession has been fairly good to me.

Sounds to me like a bragging thread and nothing else. People are largely envious of others with a little extra cash. Doesn't matter if you're a business owner, a lotto winner, someone who has a handy job with loads of tips or whatever. If you wanna survive maybe you should adapt to these behaviors. It's life.

the groutch · 24-10-2011 11:45AM

Some people are just born moaners.
They'll moan when they're on the dole, about not being able to get a job, and not being handed enough money for doing nothing.
And when they get a job they'll moan about their job because they're not getting paid enough and the work is "too hard".

fishy fishy · 24-10-2011 11:48AM

DjFlin wrote: »

I'm unemployed. I'm envious of my friends who have jobs, but I don't take the p*ss out of them for it, doesn't make sense to do so.

I will say this though, a friend of mine works in a McDonald's, and does nothing but bitch and moan about how much he hates it, and how he'd rather be unemployed (Wont quit though). It really drives me insane, he complains about having to work weekends, hell, I'd work every day of the week for a solid pay.

so why not apply to McDonalds then. You might say that now, but in reality you would not work every day of the week for a "solid" pay. You would be up in arms that you work so many hours and can't afford to live on it, and will be less able to live on it now after the lovely budget coming up.

Your friend has a right to Biatch and moan - hes doing an honest days work for meagre pay. He's probably watching people on the dole (not all) lying around watching daytime TV, and getting free this, free that, free the other, while he works hard and gets sweet FA. so leave him alone - he's entitled to biatch and moan .

if you would work every day of the week for "solid" pay, get up and do it. but then again, it would depend on what you mean by "solid" pay, wouldn't it.

DWCommuter · 24-10-2011 12:28PM

jobeenfitz wrote: »

wouldn't let it get to me if someone giving me **** cos I had a job or money. Might even find a different pub to drink in. Maybe it was the drink talking. Hope you were not looking down on these lads cos they unemployed cos that could cause ****, not accusing you, just asking. I work, I go to the pub ocassionally (can't afford it too often) and never had any hassle from people unemployed, friends or strangers.

I was just sitting at the bar reading a paper. Got the grief every time they came up for a drink. I know them to see and never had any issues with them until recently.

DWCommuter · 24-10-2011 12:34PM

Jay D wrote: »

Sounds to me like a bragging thread and nothing else. People are largely envious of others with a little extra cash. Doesn't matter if you're a business owner, a lotto winner, someone who has a handy job with loads of tips or whatever. If you wanna survive maybe you should adapt to these behaviors. It's life.

Its not a bragging thread, well not from my point of view anyway. I'm sure all of us are a little envious of others on a regular basis. Its life. But to have it thrown in your face is enough to piss me off.

24-10-2011 01:06PM

Sorry if i picked you up wrong then, just seemed like a lot of detail to make a point. Maybe get some help if it's dragging you down. Don't let it get to you, well at least try.

kjmbreslin · 24-10-2011 01:12PM

I am receiving social welfare at the moment and rather than feeling sorry for myself about dipping into the pockets of hard working Irish people I would work for my dole and I work on a voluntary basis at public service level. So now I dont feel half as bad yet I would gladly like to see my voluntary position turn into a full time position. Generally I find its the employed people who question me and unemployed people in general about not working. But it doesnt bother me, I will get a job some day!!!

Ellis Dee · 24-10-2011 02:12PM

I have never needed to draw unemployment assistance, but know plenty of people who have and some who are currently on the dole. Never once in my life have I heard an unemployed person express resentment of those with jobs. Maybe I'm just lucky that the unemployed people I know are not so stupid that they would blame other workers rather than those who have the power to shape the economy in such a way that more jobs would be generated.:):)

Logical Fallacy · 24-10-2011 02:44PM

OP, i don't think it's normal or healthy to ask a question of half a million people because of two chaps down the pub tbh.

Randy Shafter · 24-10-2011 03:43PM

OP, I think those who are giving you grief are just sore that they got stung and pissed their money away without thinking about setting some aside to fall back on if times got tough. TBH, when I hear of friends or family who have manage to secure employment I'm over the moon for them because it's a morale booster for myself to keep looking for a job. It means there are jobs out there despite the constant bad news you hear about people being let go etc.

But overall, I dont think the unemployed resent the employed. Those giving you hassle are just a minority.

DWCommuter · 25-10-2011 01:39AM

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

OP, i don't think it's normal or healthy to ask a question of half a million people because of two chaps down the pub tbh.

Let me clarify it some more for you. It wasn't two chaps. It was a husband and wife. Furthermore, this is not the first time that I have heard of employed people getting grief from unemployed people. Apart from myself being on the receiving end, I have witnessed it with other people. There appears to be a different anger out there compared to the late 70s/early 80s (an era I can relate to). My guess is that many unemployed people (this time around) have gone from having it all to having nothing and that's one big ****ing social dilemma expounding its vitriol all over the place.

Do people with no job..........

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