Dale Farm Residents lose legal battle.

AeoNGriM · 19-10-2011 09:10AM

So what's the deal here? They're a bunch of Travellers, who don't travel anywhere and simply use their status as an ethnic group to get away with doing illegal sh!t that the rest of us would get in trouble for?

Bulldozers. Really nasty, fcuking big ones. In the middle of the night, when all the kids would be alseep. Just line up, hit the gas and roll over everything. Slowly. Then pour petrol over the crushed ruins and let her rip. Marshmallows are optional.

Amber Lamps · 19-10-2011 09:49AM

they should just fence these bloody rent a crowd in, for months if they have to, and smoke them out with the smell of nice food. you want water? yeah its outside go get it, no ones bringing it in for you.

and have the travellers finally gone travelling? not a fist in sight.

philstar · 19-10-2011 09:58AM

Confab wrote: »

Oh for f*ck sake, do travellers ever stop with the hypocrisy? Holding onto crosses while keeping slaves?

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they'll be alot of crucifixes and rosary beads on show..as they milk the victimhood BS for all its worth

francois · 19-10-2011 10:02AM

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Some of the comments in this thread are a disgrace.

What do you expect, lots of brave anonymous internet warriors spouting ****e they wouldn't dare to in public or if they had to reveal their identity

Patser · 19-10-2011 10:38AM

No one else find it funny that 'Homes under the hammer' is on BBC 1 now, if you're tired of watching BBC news.

bnt · 19-10-2011 11:08AM

The view over the site in BBC News is interesting ... one banner says "No Ethnic Cleansing". Really? You want my sympathy, playing the cultural victim is not the way to get it. What's happening there is a long, long way from what happened in Bosnia or Rwanda, and shame on whoever wrote that banner for making such a comparison. :mad:

Here's my historical "big picture" view: there was a time, hundreds or thousands of years ago, when there was still "free land" that anyone could live off. A nomadic tribe could move with the seasons, exploit a bit of land for a while, then move on.

But now? We have "travellers" who don't want to travel, and I can understand why. Just about all the land in Ireland and the UK is spoken for now: it belongs to someone, or people are living on it. The nomadic lifestyle just does not work any more in Europe. Africa and parts of Asia, perhaps, but not here. Now, if you turn up and pitch camp, you are no longer on "free land": you are doing so at someone else's expense.

So the Dale Farm "travellers" have appealed to the Law, and the Law has said "no". That should be it: you are either a member of society or not, and if you are, you have responsibilities that go along with your rights. You don't get to use the Law when it suits you, then resort to lawlessness if it doesn't tell what you want to hear.

Fishooks12 · 19-10-2011 11:10AM

Their sense of entitlement is sickening. They have no legal basis to be there and are playing the ethnic card to try and keep on breaking the law

Delighted that they're being kicked out

SharpshooterTom · 19-10-2011 11:24AM

I've no problem with people supporting this issue but see when it gets turned into a national issue against ALL Irish people from the Sun/Mail/Telegraph??

'Cromwell should have wiped all the Irish out'

It's comments like that that make you wonder fuels their anger sometimes, whether it's to do with travellers or just being Irish.

Fishooks12 · 19-10-2011 11:27AM

Gnobe wrote: »

I've no problem with people supporting this issue but see when it gets turned into a national issue against ALL Irish people from the Sun/Mail/Telegraph??

'Cromwell should have wiped all the Irish out'

It's comments like that that make you wonder fuels their anger sometimes, whether it's to do with travellers or just being Irish.

Where did that quote come from? I'm sure there would be national outrage if one of the British tabloids printed that

CYHSN · 19-10-2011 11:35AM

bnt wrote: »

So the Dale Farm "travellers" have appealed to the Law, and the Law has said "no". That should be it: you are either a member of society or not, and if you are, you have responsibilities that go along with your rights. You don't get to use the Law when it suits you, then resort to lawlessness if it doesn't tell what you want to hear.

Well said bnt, well said!
If they ever won an appeal, sure lets just ignore the courts ruling and evict them anyway.

SharpshooterTom · 19-10-2011 11:39AM

Fishooks12 wrote: »

Where did that quote come from? I'm sure there would be national outrage if one of the British tabloids printed that

No no it was just some dopey idiot from one of their comments section, I think it got taken off. Interestingly enough there's people calling themeselves 'Oliver Cromwell' & 'King Billy' on the mail comments section right now lapping it all up.

You may find it unserious, but there's an awful lot of anti-irish comments being spewed out there right now. Not pleasent reading, I hope it's as I say, geniunely about land rights etc rather than a rant against all things Irish.

LondonIrish90 · 19-10-2011 11:45AM

Gnobe wrote: »

No no it was just some dopey idiot from one of their comments section, I think it got taken off. Interestingly enough there's people calling themeselves 'Oliver Cromwell' & 'King Billy' on the mail comments section right now lapping it all up.

You may find it unserious, but there's an awful lot of anti-irish comments being spewed out there right now. Not pleasent reading, I hope it's as I say, geniunely about land rights etc rather than a rant against all things Irish.

Still, thats not what you said. Please just link for us the page with "Cromwell should have wiped all the Irish people out". I'm hoping you can't and have made it up in truth, because I read the mail and the telegraph and comments like those would be completely beyond the pale and actually totally inconsistent with those papers. I'd be deeply saddened.

Anyway, good to see that Essex Police didn't take any half measures today. A flash of a baton and a taser soon gets the UCL undergraduates running from their barricades it appears!

ejmaztec · 19-10-2011 11:48AM

I thought that they already had another place lined up in another English county? Some other local authority rate-payers will get stung for a few million quid in legal fees when the focus of attention moves there with them.

EGAR · 19-10-2011 11:49AM

There are quite a few negative comments about the *Irish* on 2 FB pages about Dale Farm. Doesn't make very pretty reading.

LondonIrish90 · 19-10-2011 11:49AM

francois wrote: »

What do you expect, lots of brave anonymous internet warriors spouting ****e they wouldn't dare to in public or if they had to reveal their identity

Why would I need to be brave to state my opinion (that they are breaking the law, and like any lawbreaker need to be dealt with swiftly and decisively) in public? Because people like you, who presumably do not agree with this, will bring about reprisals? I don't understand this. I'm at university, it was on the TVs at campus as I left earlier and people were freely discussing it. I gave my opinions to a bunch of peers and didnt feel a hard man for doing so!

bernardo mac · 19-10-2011 12:04PM

No worries anyway.Don't think there are any of the Dundon McCarthys on the site.

AudreyHepburn · 19-10-2011 12:07PM

At the end of the day, in my opinion, the people at Dale Farm are there illegally and the authorities have every right to move them and to use force if necessary.

I can't see the problem with moving them on tbh.

Maximum 40 Characters · 19-10-2011 01:31PM

A Tory controlled council vs bunch of crustys.Hard to know who to support
Is it too cold for killer bees?

dsmythy · 19-10-2011 01:38PM

Maximum 40 Characters wrote: »

A Tory controlled council vs bunch of crustys.Hard to know who to support
Is it too cold for killer bees?

The dogs' mouths will keep them warm.

Allyall · 19-10-2011 01:39PM

***CRINGE***

Oh God, is anybody watching the American girl on Sky News now?:eek:

She's just making stuff up... I'm feeling so embarrassed for her, i'm squeezing my shoulders and agging...

(Silent AAAGGHH's)

Dunno why, because she seems to believe the tripe she is saying..

Fishooks12 · 19-10-2011 01:40PM

I think I hate the liberals protesting more than the actually travellers

Allyall · 19-10-2011 01:43PM

Yeah.. Just listening to her makes it clear that she is just protesting for the sake of it.. She has no idea what alternatives the travellers were offered, no idea who was or wasn't injured, no idea what the UN or Amnesty International said, no idea about anything really..

Lord TSC · 19-10-2011 01:47PM

Allyall wrote: »

***CRINGE***

Oh God, is anybody watching the American girl on Sky News now?:eek:

She's just making stuff up... I'm feeling so embarrassed for her, i'm squeezing my shoulders and agging...
(Silent AAAGGHH's)

Dunno why, because she seems to believe the tripe she is saying..

Any other day, if she wandered onto that site, she'd be torn apart.

I was thrilled with the presenter tearing her apart though. Fair play to him cause she was speaking some level of nonsense.

Fishooks12 · 19-10-2011 01:48PM

Allyall wrote: »

Yeah.. Just listening to her makes it clear that she is just protesting for the sake of it.. She has no idea what alternatives the travellers were offered, no idea who was or wasn't injured, no idea what the UN or Amnesty International said, no idea about anything really..

Idiots like her and her ilk give liberals a bad name

darkmaster2 · 19-10-2011 01:49PM

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

I was thrilled with the presenter tearing her apart though. Fair play to him cause she was speaking some level of nonsense.

You were thrilled? Im glad stuff like that thrills you..

The presenter was speaking the nonsense.

The Sky news coverage of this is a complete disgrace.

mikemac · 19-10-2011 01:51PM

When did every traveller in the world become Irish

The Daily Mail has some quality photos, they are always good for photos whatever about the rest of the paper

Go back to Ireland state the comments.
If you were born in England and lived at a site for over a decade are you still Irish?

Do you need to live in England for three generations before the little Englanders accept you as one of their own?

I know they have ethnic status as "Irish traveller" but what's with this go back to Ireland. A lot of them have been here in their lives

Fishooks12 · 19-10-2011 01:52PM

darkmaster2 wrote: »

You were thrilled? Im glad stuff like that thrills you..

The presenter was speaking the nonsense.

The Sky news coverage of this is a complete disgrace.

In what sense?

The travellers have no legal right to be there, if it wasn't an "ethnic" group none of those idiotic wish wash liberals would bother getting involved either

SleepAtNight · 19-10-2011 01:54PM

One bunch of spoilt middle class upities protesting annoy another bunch of moral waving middle class upities on chat forum....yawn.

neil_hosey · 19-10-2011 01:54PM

what im wondering is where is all the "hard" bareknuckle boxing traveller men??

All i have ever seen at these evictions fighting are activists, and traveller women and children

SleepAtNight · 19-10-2011 01:56PM

mikemac wrote: »

When did every traveller in the world become Irish

The Daily Mail has some quality photos, they are always good for photos whatever about the rest of the paper

Go back to Ireland state the comments.
If you were born in England and lived at a site for over a decade are you still Irish?

Do you need to live in England for three generations before the little Englanders accept you as one of their own?

I know they have ethnic status as "Irish traveller" but what's with this go back to Ireland. A lot of them have been here in their lives

The Daily Mail is your answer...it's readership are usually of the blinkered right wing village green preservation society type...I wouldn't be shocked what its readers say.

Dale Farm Residents lose legal battle.

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