Dale Farm Residents lose legal battle.

Dublindude69 wrote: »

I've never had a good experience with them at all. I've delt with plenty of them and had to quit 2 jobs because of the abuse you get from them. That's why I'm glad I no longer work retail because they make you're daily life hell. They do what they want and get away with it, they know no one will do anything about it.

Having taught them, I have had very different experiences.

On saying that, back in my part-time job days, I worked in hotel bars and I could say the very same thing about non-travellers.

Some of the comments in this thread are a disgrace.

I separate the issues, they are seen as travellers who broke the law, but they are people who broke the law, you are just not allowed buy a piece of land and do what the hell you want with it. Isn't that a good thing???

_Beau_ wrote: »

Since when did painting an entire group of people with the same brush become reasonable?

As far as I'm aware, anecdotal evidence does not support an argument, especially one that favours discrimination.

Hmmm. 'Anecdotal evidence' always surfaces when someone is defending any traveller misbehaving.:rolleyes:

"I am haunted by the human chimpanzees I saw along that hundred miles of horrible country ... to see white chimpanzees is dreadful; if they were black, one would not feel it so much, but their skins, except where tanned by exposure, are as white as ours".

Having read some of the bile spouted out by some of the posters in this thread, you'd be forgiven for thinking that I was quoting another poster. However, this was written by Charles Kingsley's about his visit to Ireland in 1860.

You would think that as the times have moved on, that people's mentalities would be more informed & not stuck back in the 1890's, but it is apparent that there are still a fair amount of knuckle dragging neanderthals knocking about the place.

To simply tar an entire race or community with the same brush is disgraceful.. "fuckers", "dirty shites", "dirty bastards".. insinuating that they are all law breakers... I mean for fuck sake lads - grow up. Do you not realise that these are exactly the same types of things the British used to say about the Irish, that the whites in America used to say about the blacks... that every other racist says about anyone they fear or know nothing about?

And if you think that racism is simply defined by colour or birthplace, then quite simply, you are wrong & you are a racist. If that is something you can live with, then fine, but you should also understand how petty, small minded & backward that makes you... and that is nothing to be proud of.

Now.. back to the topic on hand. The simple fact is that these people have broken planning laws & where they live is an unauthorised development. Unathorised developments happen all over the country in Ireland - people build stuff all the time without planning permission & then in a lot of cases apply for retention. Most times, they get a grant of permission. This is nothing new & not a law that is solely broken by travellers - it's much more prevelant among the settled community.

There is no doubt in my mind that the British government pushed this case through as a populist action.. they wanted to prove a point & they have done so.

Now, by the letter of the law, they are within their rights to do so, but at what cost? Apart from the financial cost, which is massive, these travellers will simply have to move on to somewhere else.

So in the end, it's not a problem solved, just one moved on.

Let's not be mistaken here - this is not a victory for anyone.

Wolflikeme wrote: »

Oh and let's not forget the king of the knackers fight. What a nice bunch of athletes.

I enjoy watching boxing and MMA and of the Travellers fights I've watched on youtube I have to say that they are extremely well refereed.

If you're against contact sports then fine. If you're only against Traveller fights then that's a bit inconsistent.



I'm going to have to get my Health and Safety 'P.C. Brigade' tattoo

Dublindude69 wrote: »

I just don't like it when I'm heading home from work and a traveller thinks to himself "Gee I need to practice bare knuckle boxing" and decides to give me a few punches for no reason. Really how do you deal with travellers? I've been told to ignore them but that just seems to piss them off even more. The guardi won't do anything, I keep getting told the same thing, there is nothing they can do, they're travellers. I was waiting at the Luas stop and they started hurling abuse at me, I put on my Ipod and pretended they wheren't their so they decided the best way to get my attention was to hurl a bottle at me. Then they threatened to follow me home and rape my mother, really are a lovely bunch of people.

I personally haven't had any trouble from Travellers.

Unprovoked assault is totally unacceptable no matter who carries it out.

The cops saying 'there is nothing we can do' is not good enough. Ask for the cops name next time you call and tell him you are in danger and insist that someone is sent out.

Failing that...

Oh for f*ck sake, do travellers ever stop with the hypocrisy? Holding onto crosses while keeping slaves?

There's only a few advantages to being a traveller, really. They'll fade out soon enough.