New Garda Uniform being piloted in DMR?

gigity gigity wrote: »

The uniform should be neat, tidy and project a professional image. Combats, polo shirts and caps look terrible. Im from Northern Ireland, I'm not a peeler so I'm unsure of what each discipline can and cannot wear however when I see a peeler wearing described uniform I can't help but feel that they look like they could not give a damm what they appear like and took the lazy way out that day when choosing what to wear that day/night.

But isn't that the point of a uniform? So the peeler doesn't have to choose what to wear.........The shirt, tie and slacks are grand for those working in an office environment, but for those working on the street it is restrictive, uncomfortable and at times downright dangerous.

Also coupling operational equipment (stab vest and utility belt) with a uniform like I've described just looks downright daft and very unprofessional, If AGS had sprung for decent leather utility equipment then it might look okay. But the nylon stuff that is issued looks crap with the current uniform.

What members want is a dual uniform, keeping the current uniform for office work/court appearances and a proper operational uniform (cargo pants, open collar shirt/polo shirt, and decent boots and decent stab vest) for on the street.

The image portrayed by the uniform is not as important as the safety and comfort of the members wearing it. Having said that, if you look at the Italian police forces, the Carabineri look more professional and command more respect than the National Police. If you look at their uniforms the carabineri have a more militaristic uniform and the national police uniform looks a lot like ours.

Delancey wrote: »

French CRS uniform looks very practical - combat trousers , blouson jackets and 'forage' caps.

They're a dedicated public order unit, though. That said, the newish regular Police Nationale uniforms introduced in 2006 aren't that unlike the CRS's uniforms, the main differences being the white shirt, baseball cap and lack of a gigantic CRS patch on their breast.



http://www.meuse.pref.gouv.fr/lettre/article.php?article=81

With the holster and nightstick on a leather belt, these uniforms look just about passable (the baseball cap looks absolutely terrible, they'd have been better with a soft kepi like the Gendarmerie Nationale), but without any of those accoutrements, as someone said above, they'd look like electricians or gas fitters.

savagecabbages wrote: »

I'm guessing they were introduced in a rush as they dont really seem to fit in with the rest of the uniform, nor do they seem to take wear and tear very well. The GARDA lettering seems to be worn or faded on 90% of the ones I see.

There's a story to that... Supposedly the MET had an order placed for vests but pulled out when the preferred supplier dropped their prices last minute... This left supplier #1 with a huge surplus of cumbersome, side entry, ill-fitting vest panels in stock... In steps Mr Garda HQ with a cheap as chips offer, chuck in a couple of blue vest covers that don't last 3/4 washes and bob's your teapot- stab vests for Gardaí!!!!

Would definitely prefer the vests some UK forces have, with front entry, a pouch and changeable hi viz covers...

The uniform was never designed with the belt in mind. The only exception to this would be the terrible attempt at the loops on the bomber and bicycle jackets where they're far too low.

If they placed loops on the jackets then it would allow for the belt to be carried in a much more practical manner. Plus it would stop it from going all over the place if running after someone.

redsurfer wrote: »

so how can we get it changed, or am I just being silly :rolleyes:

I hope if the powers-that-be ever reach the stage where they can comfortaby say they have the monies to invest in new uniforms for everyone,

someone might put a few words of encouragement in their ears and assist in diverting more monies into CPD; recruitment & other resources like vehicles instead.

Just my thoughts

d3exile wrote: »

Our GRA rep in the DMR SC was looking for suggestions cos apparently they were looking at making a proposal to the top, but that was at the beginning of the monetary troubles and it's only gotten worse since so i'd say the idea's been shelved...

I'd say the GRA are the people to voice suggestions tho, if and when the time comes

yeah the GRA are great at voicing suggestions alright

kerry4sam wrote: »

yeah the GRA are great at voicing suggestions alright

Point taken!

New uniforms introduced recently

http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/black-line-ndash-police-new-look/story-13611007-detail/story.html

I heard somewhere that a lot of uk police had dropped the tie with stab vest due to injuries from airbag deployment driving the metal clip up into the throat !!

Cant remember where, ggoles not helping me.

IMO new uniforms wont come even when we do have the money until someone who sits in the commisioners chair gives a sh1t about operational policing.

Things like gps or smartphones in vehicles as well as vehicles fit for purpose wont happen even if we ever have the money until the dinosaurs stop gettting into the office. Hpefully the tech savvy age that weve had for the last 10 years will have the cojones to make the changes when they get to the top (that should be in about twenty years then :rolleyes:)

Our uniform is reviewed every three years and guess what.....next year is the next review. Cost factor shouldnt come into it. If AGS used their head they wouldnt buy so much uniform as they do already. IE - new issue was out last month or so......I didnt need any new shirts or a new hat.....or new ties.......

If they played it right they should just allow members so many credits in January, at which time you could order uniform you may need for the coming year. IE shirt is 2 credits where as a jackets and fleese is 10 credits etc.

In regards a new uniform, members on the ground need to speak up. Management can sit back and say the stab vests are a huge sucess and everyone loves them....why?? Because not one member (myself included) has never put it on paper to say they are crap.

Combats, polo ****s, proper stab vests (that include a high vis cover or covert one). Keep that hat (baseball caps are terrible unless on a specalised unit) and keep the uniform shirt and tie for court and all indoor duties.