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How would you feel if your child was gay?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    Then you'd have to be unhappy with yourself because they get the ghey from somewhere.

    Meaning what exactly, ghey parents have ghey kids, or ghey kids have ghey parents.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭chucken1


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    So if you had a straight child who was infertile you'd be disappointed in them?

    Good question. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    I would be shocked... mostly because i dont have a kid.

    but if i did all i would care about is them being happy and safe.

    easy to say when you don't have a kid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    AH hasn't won the "Most Politically Correct Forum on Boards" in many a year tbh.

    We need to get our act together so, who needs to be bribed to get this done?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    hondasam wrote: »
    Meaning what exactly, ghey parents have ghey kids, or ghey kids have ghey parents.
    Meaning whatever is the cause of homosexuality, its likely it comes from either you or your partner.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,037 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    hondasam wrote: »
    easy to say when you don't have a kid.

    I have two children.

    I wouldn't care.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    mackg wrote: »
    We need to get our act together so, who needs to be bribed to get this done?

    Me.

    I accept all forms of payment, but prefer cash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,194 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    hondasam are you serious in what you say?

    On the one hand you say you wouldn't be happy, then I look at your avatar which says no bullying, a quote which says Stand up for what you believe in, even if it means standing alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Jezzabelle


    Personally, if my child turned out to be gay, it would not in any way change the love I have for them in any way. But I cannot say that, given the choice, I would not wish for them to be straight. For many reasons. I have gay friends who say the same - that their life would be so much easier and straight forward if they were straight - particularly females and when it comes to having children etc. That's only their opinion of course and maybe not all gay people feel the same. Maybe it's more of a reflection on society and how gay people are viewed treated within it than anything else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    Meaning whatever is the cause of homosexuality, its likely it comes from either you or your partner.

    I didn't know it was hereditary.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭chucken1


    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    Meaning whatever is the cause of homosexuality, its likely it comes from either you or your partner.

    Obviuosly... :D Or the moon? ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    Me.

    I accept all forms of payment, but prefer cash.

    Done, I just need you to give me like 2k to cover some admin fees and then the milllions will be on their way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,194 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    baz2009 wrote: »
    Have to agree with the OP, I would be slightly disappointed. I'd still cherish them and love them all the same, but there would be a twinge of disappointment.

    Ah Baz...

    *wags finger*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 770 ✭✭✭sgb


    Take him to the doctor to get a pill to make him NORMAL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,571 ✭✭✭Aoifey!


    hondasam wrote: »
    I didn't know it was hereditary.
    The two things people think it could be are nature or nurture. Whichever you believe, it would still have a quite a lot to do with the parents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    hondasam wrote: »
    I didn't know it was hereditary.
    Where else do you think it comes from considering your kid inherits your genes and you're the biggest influence on his/her life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭ascanbe


    It's kind of ironic - people who worry about their kids being gay because they might be discriminated against, are in fact discriminating against them themselves.

    Sure, they'll put it down to "wanting the best" for their child etc., but in reality, it's nothing more than a projection of their own insecurities & ignorance.

    It doesn't really have anything to do about how others will view their kids, but more so about how they will feel about them. And in all essence, it's actually a form of homophobia, because, as with all phobias, it's an irrational fear of something - in this case, homosexuality.

    Well it could be that they might fear the problems and difficulties that a child of theirs who happens to turn out to be homosexual may encounter.
    Thankfully, as you alluded to in previous posts, discrimination of this kind, certainly in this part of the world, is lessening; but i wouldn't go so far as to say it's a moot point.
    Of course, some may fear it for the exact reasons you point out: or other reasons particular to themselves.
    As with most things, it's a broad church.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    hondasam wrote: »
    I didn't know it was hereditary.

    The most commonly accepted theory is that homosexuality is a combination of genetics, hormones & environment.

    None of it is really conclusive though, despite the huge amount of research done on it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Gay? Fine.

    Effeminate son? Stop it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    hondasam are you serious in what you say?

    On the one hand you say you wouldn't be happy, then I look at your avatar which says no bullying, a quote which says Stand up for what you believe in, even if it means standing alone.

    This is not about bullying. I answered the question I would not be happy if my child was gay.I would learn to accept it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    ascanbe wrote: »
    Typical..bully the bully.
    Why doesn't anyone look to try and understand why a bully is a bully?
    Why does everyone come down on the bully when the bully is, in fact, clearly suffering from some kind of mental affliction?
    Is everyone deemed worthy of understanding and kindness except those who find themselves in the unenviable/painful position of being a bully?

    Absolute tosh.

    What about cliques where it's easy for those to pick on others who are deemed weaker and different by their peers to fit in? Those poor, poor lambs.

    When you have a bully causing phsycial and mental pain to another for personal gain to feed their egos and status in a group they don't deserve one bit of sympathy.

    Don't cloud my post with the enigma that all bullies suffer from mental anguish and hurt just as much as those they cause suffering to. Alot do but the majority don't and eventually grow out of it when they grow a bit of cop on in themselves. I came across / grew up with people who went along with the mentality of their peers and it utterly sickened me when I saw them pick on the quiet / weaker / different people because they were easy targets.

    I had to deal with these type of people myself. Ones who were once my good friends but then ditched me and others to fit it with who they thought were the hip & happening kids.

    A bully shouldn't be bullied, nor should they be given hugs and kisses. They should be taught how the world really works and how their actions reflect on others in the long run. Utter bullshìt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 168 ✭✭demolitionman


    as much as boards is the place where everyone likes to be pc, if you study embryology you will appreciate the miracle it truly is for each of us to be born healthy. and that being gay is certainly something that is such a foot note in life that for it to be a problem for someone, really shows a) how uneducated they are b) how their priorities are misaligned.

    i make homophobic jokes as much as the next guy but when it comes down to it, if i'm ever lucky enough to have children, I would gladly take a healthy gay one over a straight one who perhaps was unlucky enough to be born with some ailment, like this one below:



    If you can sit there and tell me you still would disown a gay kid, then you don't deserve to have one in the first place.

    you do not know or appreciate the value attached to good health.

    i make fun of david norris and the gays as much as anybody, but it's in good jest at the end of the day i couldnt give a flying **** what he or anyone else does in their spare time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭chucken1


    The most commonly accepted theory is that homosexuality is a combination of genetics, hormones & environment.

    None of it is really conclusive though, despite the huge amount of research done on it.

    Does it matter?
    Gay? Fine.

    Effeminate son? Stop it.

    Shup Chuck


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Aoifey! wrote: »
    The two things people think it could be are nature or nurture. Whichever you believe, it would still have a quite a lot to do with the parents.
    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    Where else do you think it comes from considering your kid inherits your genes and you're the biggest influence on his/her life.

    If I had a gay child then either me or the childs father would have to be gay.
    All gay people have a gay parent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    hondasam wrote: »
    If I had a gay child then either me or the childs father would have to be gay.
    All gay people have a gay parent

    Are you messing? I really hope you are and I'm just being dozy cos it's AH and it's late. :/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    chucken1 wrote: »
    Does it matter?

    Not to me, which is why I'm perplexed by the amount of research that's been carried out on the subject.

    I mean, surely these people - who are presumably well educated - would have better things to do with their time than figure out the "cause" of gayness.

    You'd feel like saying to them "Some people are gay, some aren't - whoop-de-dooh. Life's a rich tapestry... Accept it & move on!!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,571 ✭✭✭Aoifey!


    hondasam wrote: »
    If I had a gay child then either me or the childs father would have to be gay.
    All gay people have a gay parent
    No, it would either be in your genes somewhere (not necessarily meaning you or your partner are gay), or be strongly influences by your behaviour. Simples.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭chucken1


    hondasam wrote: »
    If I had a gay child then either me or the childs father would have to be gay.
    All gay people have a gay parent

    I dunno? The father of my chidren was a fokin luunatic..

    My children arent..

    but..he did have mother issues ;)

    EDIT..he..as in..the father


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,510 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    Well now... isn't this a depressing thread?

    Especially if you're a gay kid on here looking around who hasn't come out to their parents yet!

    As for the bullying thing. I came out when I was 17 to friends, family when I was 21. I have never once been bullied or discriminated against because I am a lesbian. Never.

    I honestly do believe that parents who think that people will bully or discriminate against their kids are the exact same ones who would do that the other gay people, regardless of whether they admit that or not. The sheer fact of you saying "I'd be disappointed" means that you think there's something bad about being gay. The thread isn't titled "Would you be concerned for your childs welfare if they were gay?" which is what you have tried to reword it as. You said disappointed, OP. Disappointment means something wrong, like the child has failed.

    I think the child has more of a right to be disappointed in you, as a parent.

    Most parents will go through an "oh my God" phase when they find out, just because it's not expected. That's fine. Everyone who is gay goes through that same phase.

    I plan on having children with my partner. I plan on raising them to respect everyone. I plan on raising them to understand that some people are mean, and some are lovely. I plan on raising them to be smart enough not to spout some ridiculous rhetoric about "well I don't have a problem with black people, but really, I'd be upset if you brought one home". That's pretty much what you're saying on here.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    hondasam wrote: »
    All gay people have a gay parent

    Interesting theory...

    Bendy mickey = bendy kids.

    Hmm.


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