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bbam · 28-09-2011 10:24AM

The system is indeed broke to allow such widespread and open fraud..
We should however be careful not to demonise everybody who is in receipt of SW, not all on disability, carers allowance, illness benifet or jobseekers are defrauding or stealing.. Nor are all non nationals wheder in work or on jobseekers..

Back on topic..
What are ye planning to get done in thje next few days?? looks like it will be a short spell so busy few days ahead..

whelan1 · 28-09-2011 10:25AM

well i am not spraying weeds, have bruises where no one should ever have bruises today

reilig · 28-09-2011 10:38AM

whelan1 wrote: »

ok while i dont agree with the amount of the payments , my nephew is 4 has severe epilepsy- was extremely lucky to be able to start school with a special needs assistant- his mam - my sister- has ms diagnosed last year, will never work again... she gets disability , luckily her child got a medical card , she didnt get one:mad: her husband works full time . They get a home help for 2 hours a week. The child goes to occupational therapy- i think its called - twice a week. She never has money , they have a mortgage, they also have another child, appointments in temple street and beaumount are very regular, after reading reiligs post they would be better off if her husband wasnt working at all

I have no issue with that. I work with people with disabilities. 99.99% of cases are genuine and deserving. The case above is questionable. The family figured out the system. The guy quit work during the boom years and was diagnosed with depression 2 years afterwards which was blamed on him having no occupation. He quit his job FFS! They don't work, they have no bills, they own nothing, yet they have everything that they need to live a comfortable life with no financial worries.

Your case above is totally different. That family are very deserving.

reilig · 28-09-2011 10:40AM

bbam wrote: »

The system is indeed broke to allow such widespread and open fraud..
We should however be careful not to demonise everybody who is in receipt of SW, not all on disability, carers allowance, illness benifet or jobseekers are defrauding or stealing.. Nor are all non nationals wheder in work or on jobseekers..

Back on topic..
What are ye planning to get done in thje next few days?? looks like it will be a short spell so busy few days ahead..

Its not fraud. The system has legally allowed these people to claim all of these benefits. They have been means tested for some of the payments and have been found to have no means. Its the system that is wrong. the people getting the benefits are doing nothing wrong!

Suckler · 28-09-2011 10:41AM

bbam wrote: »

We should however be careful not to demonise everybody who is in receipt of SW, not all on disability, carers allowance, illness benifet or jobseekers are defrauding or stealing.. Nor are all non nationals wheder in work or on jobseekers.

You are quite correct; there are, in the majority of cases, genuine people who want work but the jobs simply aren't there. There are also some circumstances whereby if they re-enter employment they would be worse off financially. This is no incentive.

Edit: another major issue is the fact that many who started business and were at the core of job creation previously will not sick their neck out again as the receive nothing if that business goes under. This is one area that is causing stagnation.

bbam wrote: »

Back on topic..
What are ye planning to get done in thje next few days?? looks like it will be a short spell so busy few days ahead..

Well I'm stuck back in the desert so can't help ye there!:D

5live · 28-09-2011 01:00PM

whelan1 wrote: »

well i am not spraying weeds, have bruises where no one should ever have bruises today

Well what do you expect when all the padding and fall cushioning is gone?:D You may have to put a couple of pounds back on to cater for unexpected incidents like that, whelan1

jerdee · 28-09-2011 01:50PM

bbam wrote: »

Back on topic..
What are ye planning to get done in thje next few days?? looks like it will be a short spell so busy few days ahead..

JUST AFTER HAVING MY HERD JUDGED FOR ANGUS HERDS COMPETITION IN MUNSTER ALL WENT OK TG

whelan1 · 28-09-2011 02:16PM

5live wrote: »

Well what do you expect when all the padding and fall cushioning is gone?:D You may have to put a couple of pounds back on to cater for unexpected incidents like that, whelan1

has taken me 15 months to loose what i have , say i could put it all back on in alot less..... whats the weather like down the country apparently its 24 degrees here at the minute

whelan1 · 28-09-2011 02:17PM

jerdee wrote: »

bbam wrote: »

Back on topic..
What are ye planning to get done in thje next few days?? looks like it will be a short spell so busy few days ahead..

JUST AFTER HAVING MY HERD JUDGED FOR ANGUS HERDS COMPETITION IN MUNSTER ALL WENT OK TG

we never have anything like that would be interested in it, are you in the angus society or the angus association

jerdee · 28-09-2011 02:39PM

whelan1 wrote: »

jerdee wrote: »

bbam wrote: »

Back on topic..
What are ye planning to get done in thje next few days?? looks like it will be a short spell so busy few days ahead..

JUST AFTER HAVING MY HERD JUDGED FOR ANGUS HERDS COMPETITION IN MUNSTER ALL WENT OK TG

we never have anything like that would be interested in it, are you in the angus society or the angus association

Yes munster aberdeen anGus seventeen herds broke into small 1-10 medium 11-20 and large 21+ if anything its nice to get an outsiders view as to stock and bulls used

just do it · 28-09-2011 02:50PM

whelan1 wrote: »

ok while i dont agree with the amount of the payments , my nephew is 4 has severe epilepsy- was extremely lucky to be able to start school with a special needs assistant- his mam - my sister- has ms diagnosed last year, will never work again... she gets disability , luckily her child got a medical card , she didnt get one:mad: her husband works full time . They get a home help for 2 hours a week. The child goes to occupational therapy- i think its called - twice a week. She never has money , they have a mortgage, they also have another child, appointments in temple street and beaumount are very regular, after reading reiligs post they would be better off if her husband wasnt working at all

Jeez that's tough Whelan1. I agree with a system to help your sister, and she deserves it.

The big problem is, how do you prevent it being abused? When parking charges came in in towns across the country, the number of blue stickers for disabled drivers tripled. As someone else on here calls it, "grabbing" is endemic in our country (and I don't think it's much better anywhere else!)

whelan1 · 28-09-2011 02:54PM

just do it wrote: »

Jeez that's tough Whelan1. I agree with a system to help your sister, and she deserves it.

The big problem is, how do you prevent it being abused? When parking charges came in in towns across the country, the number of blue stickers for disabled drivers tripled. As someone else on here calls it, "grabbing" is endemic in our country (and I don't think it's much better anywhere else!)

they had to wait months for a helmet for the child when they got it , it didnt fit , that just summed up this country to a tee!

JohnBoy · 28-09-2011 03:03PM

had great ideas for this weekend, but planned them badly.

am supposed to me making repairs to a slurry tank for a friend. did some research and spoke to the guys on the sika stand at the ploughing, got reccomended some products, but didnt get straight on it.

now all I can get in time for the weekend is 6kg packs of the magic filler, but it's over a hundred euro for the pack, and it has to be used in one go so eh, that's not happening.

no-one seems to have the small packs in stock in cork.

http://www.sika-trocal.ie/de/ie_constr_Sikadur_31_CF_Normal.pdf

really annoyed about it, no-one to blame but myself.

we'll hopefully at least get the tank cleaned this weekend, just means I need to go down there again really soon to help out with the actual repairs.

anyway, this supposed heatwave doesnt seem to be taking off in cork, so I might be as well off.

bah humbug

Username John · 28-09-2011 03:12PM

whelan1 wrote: »

has taken me 15 months to loose what i have , say i could put it all back on in alot less..... whats the weather like down the country apparently its 24 degrees here at the minute

Its miserable here today - foggy and grey all day, cold as well... Horrible day... :mad:

whelan1 · 28-09-2011 03:16PM

ye , my husband in down your direction delivering gutters, he couldnt believe it was so warm here , had to send a pic of the blue sky... just getting silage baled now soon

blue5000 · 28-09-2011 03:27PM

Whelan yer lucky with the silage.

I hear derrypatrick herd slaughtered the first of their blonde sired cattle this week, calves from the lim x fr cows killed out 18kg heavier than the ch cows' calves. Don't know about grades though.

Muckit · 28-09-2011 06:17PM

Anyone going to the derrypatrick update in grange tomorrow? Working so can't go

I'd love to see the setup sometime.

Bought a hot pressure washer today. Spending over an hour cleaning the sh*t off the cattle trailer last saturday, with the thumb on the end of the hose and scrubbing furiously with the yard brush, made my mind up for me! Getting it delivered on Saturday, so everything and anything will get cleaned over the weekend!

what happen · 28-09-2011 09:19PM

Muckit wrote: »

Anyone going to the derrypatrick update in grange tomorrow? Working so can't go I'd love to see the setup sometime.

Bought a hot pressure washer today. Spending over an hour cleaning the sh*t off the cattle trailer last saturday, with the thumb on the end of the hose and scrubbing furiously with the yard brush, made my mind up for me! Getting it delivered on Saturday, so everything and anything will get cleaned over the weekend!

what make did you go for and what did it cost.

whelan1 · 29-09-2011 12:49PM

bales wrapped and nearly all in, really warm here again today, but not as warm as yesterday

Username John · 29-09-2011 01:29PM

whelan1 wrote: »

bales wrapped and nearly all in, really warm here again today, but not as warm as yesterday

In Cavan today - and not a great day here. Coldish, grey, overcast - not raining though, so I suppose thats something... :rolleyes:

Whelan1 - go way with yer good weather stories

(glad to hear you got yer bales done, bit o grass knocked up around here, as yesterday was a great day here apparently)

bbam · 29-09-2011 01:40PM

Username John wrote: »

In Cavan today - and not a great day here. Coldish, grey, overcast .

Welcome to a typical summers day in Cavan :rolleyes:, don't worry I'm sure it will rain later..:P

simx · 29-09-2011 02:27PM

was in kk mart today,looking at prices for lim blks 1yr/18mnths. . . . looks like be buying in something else this winter,making in or around 500 or more along with weight,anywhere else around theryre a bit better maybe?;)

reilig · 29-09-2011 02:33PM

Opened up a few bales of 2010 silage this week that I had bought on the cheap - I bought them in July and put an extra 2 layers of wrap on them. Lovely silage coming out of them. The extra wrapping kept them perfect. Cows and calves that are weined and in the shed are loving them.

Going to be on the look out for more of these bales over the next few weeks. I couldn't buy meadow and save the bales at that price.

reilig · 30-09-2011 10:54AM

Pedigree Limousin heifer calved this morning. She's a daughter of PUP and she had a nice handy bull calf off Milbrook Dartangan. She only had 3 days with her which is very unusual for a limousin. Looking forward to seeing what he is going to be like in months to come! I have a heifer calf off Dartangan from June, she was small when born and small enough for July and August, but she really took off in September and has passed out the others now.

Bizzum · 30-09-2011 11:01AM

Any Pics Reilig? (Of the cow/calf.....Not the bales of silage!)

Muckit · 30-09-2011 11:02AM

reilig wrote: »

Pedigree Limousin heifer calved this morning. She's a daughter of PUP and she had a nice handy bull calf off Milbrook Dartangan. She only had 3 days with her which is very unusual for a limousin. Looking forward to seeing what he is going to be like in months to come! I have a heifer calf off Dartangan from June, she was small when born and small enough for July and August, but she really took off in September and has passed out the others now.

Good stuff

You went away to work happy

Muckit · 30-09-2011 11:06AM

Yes stick up a pic!

I realise that bull is presumably out of the same herd as millbrook Tanco, but is he any relation? I wouldn't be too well up on the big names in limousin, but Tanco is supposed to be an easy calver

reilig · 30-09-2011 11:07AM

Bizzum wrote: »

Any Pics Reilig? (Of the cow/calf.....Not the bales of silage!)

I'll try to get some this evening and stick them up. My pedigrees all calve between June and October. That way, the calf will be strong to sell in the sales or bull 2 springs afterwards. (ie. born june 2010, sold march 2012). So don't be expecting monsters of calves - yet!

reilig · 30-09-2011 11:08AM

Muckit wrote: »

Yes stick up a pic! I realise that bull is presumably out of the same herd as millbrook Tanco, but is he any relation? I wouldn't be too well up on the big names in limousin, but Tanco is supposed to be an easy calver

Yea, they would be from the one herd and may be cousins - I'd have to check the herdbook. My bull last year was off Tanco. He was a good animal.

whelan1 · 30-09-2011 02:46PM

bucketing down here now!

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