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johnny_ultimate · 22-09-2011 02:22PM

o1s1n wrote: »

Is it wrong that I never really liked Futurama?

Hell yes!

It's one of the few jokes that has ever got nerdy humour down to a tee.

It's creation and subsequent stupidly high quality is in direct correlation to the downfall of the Simpsons, too.

However, the movies were profoundly disappointing, and despite some great episodes (the last episode was a doozy) it can be a bit hit and miss these days.

o1s1n · 22-09-2011 02:33PM

I always found that Futurama/Simpsons downfall link to be a bit wrong. The Simpsons went downhill long before Futurama came along. Futurama was just the final nail in the coffin.

I'll admit, sometimes it can be very funny and smart. When this happens I tend to think 'Hmm, maybe I've been wrong all these years'.

Then they'll throw in some increadibly Juvenile humour similar to that you'd see in rubbish Simpsons episodes.

Also, the Simpsons in the first 8 years or so were also very endearing as characters. If Homer was sad you genuinely felt it.

I found the complete opposite with Fry, Leela and the gang. Couldn't care less of they got sucked into a black hole.

Bender is the shows saving grace..but even at that, he's just a robotic more extreme version of homer.

Professey Chin · 22-09-2011 02:34PM

o1s1n wrote: »

Is it wrong that I never really liked Futurama?

BURN THE WITCH!

johnny_ultimate · 22-09-2011 02:43PM

Personally I think the Simpsons downfall links very closely to Futurama. Season 10 of the Simpsons (1998-1999) would have been the start of it being pretty bad, although I agree it had shown signs for a few series previously. And with Futurama starting in 1999, there's definitely a strong indication some of the creative talent was focused on Futurama more so than the Simpsons. Although obviously the departure of some of the Simpsons writers for entirely different pastures was a significant factor too!

But Futurama is really the only 'prime time' animation I can watch anymore. I'd completely disagree that it's crude, and think it's far cleverer with its gags than other similar series. Something like South Park I just can't watch anymore because the tone so radically alternates between childishly obscene and worthwhile satire. The combination of the two only works occasionally. Others, like the beyond dreadful Bob's Burgers, are just plain bad.

And as for the characters, I find it's a more straight up comedy, and the inherent wackiness of the central concept means the characters need to be more caricatures. I agree that they can suffer as a result: the Fry / Leela plot always seems a bit weird, although some episodes are genuinely emotionally involving (the dog episode most famously). I see where you're coming from though, even if I think they use the characters to their utmost comic potential.

Anyway, think we're way off topic here :P

Steve X2 · 22-09-2011 02:55PM

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

And as for the characters, I find it's a more straight up comedy, and the inherent wackiness of the central concept means the characters need to be more caricatures. I agree that they can suffer as a result: the Fry / Leela plot always seems a bit weird, although some episodes are genuinely emotionally involving (the dog episode most famously). I see where you're coming from though, even if I think they use the characters to their utmost comic potential.

Anyway, think we're way off topic here :P

Don't mention that episode or I'll need to get some hankies or something.

Retr0gamer · 22-09-2011 03:09PM

Steve SI wrote: »

So, something good but relatively mainstream that Retr0 doesn't like.

Hmm, where's the "I'm not surprised" emoticon.

I jest, I Jest :D

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It's no curb your enthusiasm :P

johnny_ultimate · 22-09-2011 03:12PM

Nothing is a Curb Your Enthusiasm. Head and shoulders above any other comedy that has ever existed on television.

Dr Bob · 22-09-2011 03:17PM

Jebus I read about the whole shrodingers cat thing yeeears ago <nerd>
I've always liked futurama though .
To be honest I 've always felt the opposite to Oisin .The Simpsons have indestructable characters that no matter what happens reset at the end of the episode , where as I actually find myself caring about the Futurama ones.
Also ..this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgR3v2zz6gU

BBT is an ok enough sitcom .Not fantastic , and sometimes it feels like they're trying to do "friends" but with comic-con references , but its decent enough.
Oddly enough theres the occiasional geek joke done pretty well.
Oh and there's the sheldon/green lantern t-shirt in-joke.
In Green Lantern comics(which I like a lot, just ignore the film ok.) , theres various different factions each built around an emotion, so Green lantern= willpower , yellow lanterns=fear, oragne=greed , red lanterns rage and so on .Each one has its own logo etc .Whenever Sheldon(one of the main characters) is wearing a 'lantern' t-shirt he'll be acting appropriatly (i.e. yellow means somethings going to happen that has him scare , red means he'll end up angry etc).

Retr0gamer · 22-09-2011 03:20PM

luas_dublin wrote: »

Oh and there's the sheldon/green lantern t-shirt in-joke.
In Green Lantern comics(which I like a lot, just ignore the film ok.) , theres various different factions each built around an emotion, so Green lantern= willpower , yellow lanterns=fear, oragne=greed , red lanterns rage and so on .Each one has its own logo etc .Whenever Sheldon(one of the main characters) is wearing a 'lantern' t-shirt he'll be acting appropriatly (i.e. yellow means somethings going to happen that has him scare , red means he'll end up angry etc).

Hi-larious :P

James Howlett · 22-09-2011 03:28PM

luas_dublin wrote: »

BBT is an ok enough sitcom .Not fantastic , and sometimes it feels like they're trying to do "friends" but with comic-con references , but its decent enough.
Oddly enough theres the occiasional geek joke done pretty well.
Oh and there's the sheldon/green lantern t-shirt in-joke.
In Green Lantern comics(which I like a lot, just ignore the film ok.) , theres various different factions each built around an emotion, so Green lantern= willpower , yellow lanterns=fear, oragne=greed , red lanterns rage and so on .Each one has its own logo etc .Whenever Sheldon(one of the main characters) is wearing a 'lantern' t-shirt he'll be acting appropriatly (i.e. yellow means somethings going to happen that has him scare , red means he'll end up angry etc).

That's pretty cool

Dr Bob · 22-09-2011 03:31PM

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Hi-larious :P

no not really funny , but its a nice touch
anyway to each their own
I know a lot of people like "curb.." , and it gets awards etc so I'm not saying its a bad show but whenever I watch it its just about the main protagonist making an ass of himself.It's just cringe comedy.

Andrew76 · 22-09-2011 03:49PM

Annnnnnyway...

Not particularly interesting but this came today, I still tinker about with the mame pc and it's a pain to have to open up the cab and pull out the keyboard & mouse each time.
Gave it a try earlier and it works flawlessly, really good build qualtity to it also. Excellent little device.

Thanks keithgeo for the heads up ages ago about these!

ghostchant · 22-09-2011 03:51PM

I hate Big Bang Theory, mainly because I spend my days in a physics department interacting with people* who are scarily like the characters sometimes, so feels too much like work

Also: Arrested Development >>>> Every other TV show ever.

*might include me

Steve X2 · 22-09-2011 03:52PM

Andrew76 wrote: »

Annnnnnyway...

Not particularly interesting but this came today, I still tinker about with the mame pc and it's a pain to have to open up the cab and pull out the keyboard & mouse each time.
Gave it a try earlier and it works flawlessly, really good build qualtity to it also. Excellent little device.

Thanks keithgeo for the heads up ages ago about these!

Very nice,
I ended up going with one of these for the my Hyperspin/Mame tinkering needs when it eventually ends up in my cab.

51XIW6O1ZTL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Handheld-Wireless-Windows-Keyboard-Control/dp/B003ZV3O86/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=I1LOQY4RKJYAKW&colid=2FBXTOA7QIE9E

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Mr.Saturn · 22-09-2011 03:52PM

ghostchant wrote: »

I hate Big Bang Theory, mainly because I spend my days in a physics department interacting with people who are scarily like the characters sometimes, so feels too much like work

Also: Arrested Development >>>> Every other TV show ever.

The first two series and a bit. The 'Wee Brain/Britain' arc in the 3rd season almost went ways to justify it being cancelled.

Retr0gamer · 22-09-2011 03:53PM

luas_dublin wrote: »

no not really funny , but its a nice touch
anyway to each their own

It's stuff like that that puts me off it. It's like it's trying to hard to be nerdy and ends up being condescending.

johnny_ultimate · 22-09-2011 03:57PM

Being honest, 'comic book geekdom' is the kind that gives us nerds a bad name. They tend to have spectacularly low standards. It's why I'm terrified of Comic Con and what it has become.

Freaks & Geeks remains the most accurate, affectionate portrayal of geekdom of them all. Cruelly cancelled

ghostchant · 22-09-2011 03:57PM

Mr.Saturn wrote: »

The first two series and a bit. The 'Wee Brain/Britain' arc in the 3rd season almost went ways to justify it being cancelled.

I think it became a bit stupid alright, but at they point they knew they were being cut, so kinda felt like they were taking the p*ss to some extent.

Andrew76 · 22-09-2011 03:58PM

Steve SI wrote: »

Very nice,
I ended up going with one of these for the my Hyperspin/Mame tinkering needs when it eventually ends up in my cab.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Handheld-Wireless-Windows-Keyboard-Control/dp/B003ZV3O86/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=I1LOQY4RKJYAKW&colid=2FBXTOA7QIE9E

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That looks cool! Set you back much?

@ Comedy talk

Dr Bob · 22-09-2011 03:58PM

Mr.Saturn wrote: »

The first two series and a bit. The 'Wee Brain/Britain' arc in the 3rd season almost went ways to justify it being cancelled.

bizzarely I was just thinking about that today , yeah those 3/4 Mr F episodes were a blip in an otherwise fantastic show.
Oh and sorry for the thread derail!

Retr0gamer · 22-09-2011 04:00PM

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Freaks & Geeks remains the most accurate, affectionate portrayal of geekdom of them all. Cruelly cancelled

Fantastic show. What happened to you Judd Apartow!

Steve X2 · 22-09-2011 04:03PM

Andrew76 wrote: »

That looks cool! Set you back much?

@ Comedy talk

Think it was around 30 sterling a little while back.

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o1s1n · 22-09-2011 04:12PM

I found a wind up Pocket Arcade Tomy Safari Drive in my parents house. It's something similar to this (they don't seem to have a photo of Safari Drive on that site)

http://www.handheldempire.com/game.jsp?game=1939

Anyone know if it's worth fixing up? Or is it junk? Luas_Dublin, you know at all?

Dr Bob · 22-09-2011 04:25PM

o1s1n wrote: »

I found a wind up Pocket Arcade Tomy Safari Drive in my parents house. It's something similar to this (they don't seem to have a photo of Safari Drive on that site)

http://www.handheldempire.com/game.jsp?game=1939

Anyone know if it's worth fixing up? Or is it junk? Luas_Dublin, you know at all?

I'm not to up on the mechanical tomy games ,is this it here
http://www.handheldmuseum.com/Tomy/SafariDrive.htm?

o1s1n · 22-09-2011 04:28PM

Yep! That's the one. You get a sound similar to the one with Starcom toys. It instantly brings me back to the 80s

Might pop her open and see if it's an easy fix.

Dr Bob · 22-09-2011 04:37PM

Odd that , havent seen one of them in ages and then this shows up , and then yours
http://www.adverts.ie/other-consoles-games/tomytronic-3d-tomy-pocket-arcade/975120

Retr0gamer · 22-09-2011 06:13PM

James Howlett wrote: »

Can i ask you: what operating system does this say it will work on? I got one a while ago but it wouldn't work on windows 7 despite my best(ish) efforts.

Working fine for me in windows 7. Can't capture in s-video for some reason (might be the modified N64 cable I'm using) but in composite its fine. Captured some Rakuga kids from the N64 just there.

Retr0gamer · 22-09-2011 06:33PM

Here's my first video capture:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0p1tDwFGjo

CiDeRmAn · 22-09-2011 07:07PM

Gods, but I loved Married With Children, and I still fancy Peggy rotten, much better than that prissy one in Who's The Boss, plus Tony Danza is a dick!

o1s1n · 22-09-2011 07:16PM

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Gods, but I loved Married With Children, and I still fancy Peggy rotten, much better than that prissy one in Who's The Boss, plus Tony Danza is a dick!

Peggy???

Did you happen to accidentally sit on the remote and change station whenever Christina Applegate came on screen?! :pac:

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