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Tea_Bag · 11-09-2011 01:41AM

One of those little devil cases was for sale on adverts.ie for a while, still might be. Has a custom powder coated chassis no less.

zero19 · 11-09-2011 01:54AM

Lads is there such a thing as a sort of beginners kit to build your own basic PC on the cheap? I've always wanted to give it a go but i'd hate to spend a load of money on bits only to make a balls of something.

Trevor451 · 11-09-2011 02:05AM

zero19 wrote: »

Lads is there such a thing as a sort of beginners kit to build your own basic PC on the cheap? I've always wanted to give it a go but i'd hate to spend a load of money on bits only to make a balls of something.

I suppose the best thing in your case to do is get a old desktop PC that you never use and try to take apart / re install it. It wont be that much different from when you install a new system.

Tea_Bag · 11-09-2011 03:39AM

zero19 wrote: »

Lads is there such a thing as a sort of beginners kit to build your own basic PC on the cheap? I've always wanted to give it a go but i'd hate to spend a load of money on bits only to make a balls of something.

The only kit you need is a Philips head screw driver, and an optional extra is a static wristband.

Also a clean work surface. I use my dining room table :cool:

deejer · 11-09-2011 09:01AM

Tea_Bag wrote: »

One of those little devil cases was for sale on adverts.ie for a while, still might be. Has a custom powder coated chassis no less.

Ya its still there.If I had Eur300

Wups forgot the link

http://www.adverts.ie/hardware/custom-littledevil-v8-pc-watercooling-case/604016

Monotype · 11-09-2011 10:31PM

Trevor451 wrote: »

Is this as good as the super flower amazon series of psu? I don't think that A-Data is as catchy of a name as super flower though :pac:

You're right, super flower is a pretty mad name that you'd remember more.

Solitaire wrote: »

Very close. The A-Data is basically a slightly cheaper Corsair TX650 (PSH2 platform). The Amazon 650W competes with them directly.

But the A-data has the big advantage of being modular.

Burgo wrote: »

check out the insanely huge case, as well of the contents :eek:

You could fit two boards in there! Or half a corpse.

Trevor451 wrote: »

I suppose the best thing in your case to do is get a old desktop PC that you never use and try to take apart / re install it. It wont be that much different from when you install a new system.

I agree, although if it's more than 6 or 7 years old, there'll be a lot of ports and parts which haven't been around for a while. At least we don't have to put up with those messy ribbon cables anymore.

Brian · 12-09-2011 12:08AM

Could anyone recommend me a replacement HSF for my x4 955? Its stock one is supposedly pretty good, but mine is extremely noisy even when at low temps at ~1800 rpm. Looking at the Scythe Mugen.

Monotype · 12-09-2011 07:32AM

Scythe mugen 2/3 is good and it will be a lot quieter. It's huge in comparison to the stock cooler. It's a bit of a pain to install though.
You could always get something halfway like the freezer pro 7 or 13. It would be quieter but if you're overclocking the mugen would be more suited.

Brian · 12-09-2011 10:15AM

Okay, looking at a Mugen 3 for the CPU and a Nexus Real Silent for the case. Not sure if it's the Basic or PWM version that I need. My mobo is a Gigabyte GA-870A-USB3. Also going to pick up Scythe Slip Stream from the SPCR Microserver Review.

deejer · 12-09-2011 10:22AM

http://www.techpowerup.com/151949/AMD-FX-Series-Processors-Up-For-Pre-Order.html

Looks like the 8 core FX chip is going to come in a little more expensive than the 2500k. Guess its down to performance then. Gaming performance to be more percise.

Monotype · 12-09-2011 10:24AM

PWM or basic for the case fan?
Looking at the picture of your board, Sys_fan1 (middle left hand edge) is four pin so it might support PWM. Sys_fan2 (bottom left corner) is only three pin though. Whether it's supported by the BIOS or not is a different story.
If it's a similar price, there's no reason not to get the PWM version as you can still connect a four pin fan to a 3 pin connector.

Monotype · 12-09-2011 10:39AM

deejer wrote: »

http://www.techpowerup.com/151949/AMD-FX-Series-Processors-Up-For-Pre-Order.html

Looks like the 8 core FX chip is going to come in a little more expensive than the 2500k. Guess its down to performance then. Gaming performance to be more percise.

AMD currently sets a 3.2GHz 1090T at $185 is currently ($170 @ newegg) while this new 3.3GHz hexacore is $188.32. Unless they're extremely good value, that pricing would suggest that we won't be getting much performance gain.

If the 8-core is against the 2600K in pricing, I doubt it will catch up with it in games. 8 cores could beat 4 + HT in applications which use it though. I hope that they overclock as well as the 2500K and 2600Ks.

Brian · 12-09-2011 10:41AM

The PWM fan is more expensive and is actually apparently not as good.

So I've bought these...
Scythe Mugen 3

Nexus 120 mm Real Silent case fan x2 because they're cheap.

Scythe Slip Stream adjustable PWM fan, for the HP Microserver as recommended by Silent PC Review.

Hope they're all right.

deejer · 12-09-2011 12:47PM

Monotype wrote: »

AMD currently sets a 3.2GHz 1090T at $185 is currently ($170 @ newegg) while this new 3.3GHz hexacore is $188.32. Unless they're extremely good value, that pricing would suggest that we won't be getting much performance gain.

If the 8-core is against the 2600K in pricing, I doubt it will catch up with it in games. 8 cores could beat 4 + HT in applications which use it though. I hope that they overclock as well as the 2500K and 2600Ks.

Well Im hoping for significant improvement on my phenom 965 (which is probably the best performace/value AMD chip at the moment) and that it will work om my 890FX MB. If that is the case I will be upgrading again this year.

Jonny7 · 12-09-2011 01:20PM

deejer wrote: »

http://www.techpowerup.com/151949/AMD-FX-Series-Processors-Up-For-Pre-Order.html

Looks like the 8 core FX chip is going to come in a little more expensive than the 2500k. Guess its down to performance then. Gaming performance to be more percise.

The prices seem to indicate a lack of confidence from AMD - the signs haven't been good for awhile now.. we can only hope.

I think in reality only the 8 core chip will challenge the 2600k and 2500k, and even then it will just be trading blows rather than faster across the board.

Solitaire · 12-09-2011 01:46PM

Even trading blows is better than being left behind in the dust!

Monotype · 12-09-2011 01:52PM

Baza210 wrote: »

The PWM fan is more expensive and is actually apparently not as good.

So I've bought these...
Scythe Mugen 3

Nexus 120 mm Real Silent case fan x2 because they're cheap.

Scythe Slip Stream adjustable PWM fan, for the HP Microserver as recommended by Silent PC Review.

Hope they're all right.

It's a good idea to ask someone to give you a hand with installing the mugen, BTW. Otherwise you you'll be at it half a day with sore fingers!

deejer wrote: »

Well Im hoping for significant improvement on my phenom 965 (which is probably the best performace/value AMD chip at the moment) and that it will work om my 890FX MB. If that is the case I will be upgrading again this year.

I want an improvement for my sempron...

Brian · 12-09-2011 02:01PM

Sure I'll get Jonathan to do it >_>

Tea_Bag · 12-09-2011 02:26PM

Monotype wrote: »

I want an improvement for my sempron...

:eek::eek::pac:

Monotype · 12-09-2011 06:37PM

Tea_Bag wrote: »

:eek::eek::pac:

Yeah, I'm a cheapskate but it's perfect for general officey applications when paired with a nice SSD.

Tea_Bag · 12-09-2011 06:46PM

Monotype wrote: »

Yeah, I'm a cheapskate but it's perfect for general officey applications when paired with a nice SSD.

Do you play games?

Monotype · 12-09-2011 08:14PM

Nothing advanced. Most recent was portal 2 and it was good enough. The overclock to 3.8GHz does help a bit.

Tea_Bag · 13-09-2011 06:26PM

Looks like the FX 8 core clocks quite well

The AMD FX CPU, set to launch in the fourth quarter of 2011, achieved a top speed of 8.429 GHz, surpassing the previous record of 8.308 GHz. The record was set on Aug. 31, 2011, in Austin, Texas, by “Team AMD FX,” a group comprised of elite overclocking specialists working alongside top AMD technologists, who will also be named in the Guinness World Records.

More here

Calibos · 13-09-2011 06:32PM

Monotype wrote: »

Nothing advanced. Most recent was portal 2 and it was good enough. The overclock to 3.8GHz does help a bit.

Should I be taking advice about a gaming PC in my thread from this lad???

(You know I'm kidding

I'm going to have a kick ass machine now, thanks primarily to you :cool: )

Monotype · 13-09-2011 07:27PM

If I had the time and cash to go into the games, it would be great but I can always live my dreams through other people!

Brian · 14-09-2011 11:34AM

:0

Monotype · 14-09-2011 01:01PM

Cool. :cool: :pac:

Burgo · 14-09-2011 01:51PM

Must have missed this the first time around :eek:

cherryghost · 14-09-2011 03:32PM

AMD's new Bulldozer CPUs are up for pre-orders on some retail sites. Prices are very reasonable for the Octacore ones

Brian · 14-09-2011 04:07PM

Sure, don't give any links.

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