Farming Chit Chat

cathalmac · 11-09-2011 03:34PM

folks,

Relief milking, what do ye normally pay for milking morning and evening? A local lad recently approached me and is keen to get involved. His only experience with milking was in Ag college a couple of years ago.

He is keen to learn but would more or less be starting from scratch!

linebacker52 · 11-09-2011 03:50PM

cathalmac wrote: »

folks,

Relief milking, what do ye normally pay for milking morning and evening? A local lad recently approached me and is keen to get involved. His only experience with milking was in Ag college a couple of years ago.

He is keen to learn but would more or less be starting from scratch!

72 eruo a day with farm relief and and 100 for sundays.

cathalmac · 11-09-2011 04:22PM

yeah I was paying 70 a day for an experienced lad earlier on in the year. Suppose we'll give this lad a go and see how he gets on.

whelan1 · 11-09-2011 05:26PM

i give 40 a milking but that includes about half an hours work after wards- feeding etc

dar31 · 11-09-2011 05:51PM

whelan1 wrote: »

i give 40 a milking but that includes about half an hours work after wards- feeding etc

are them €'s into his hand.

whelan1 · 11-09-2011 05:59PM

dar31 wrote: »

are them €'s into his hand.

yes , during the summer its €30 for an evening milking as there is no work after the milking... will pay for a fill of diesel as i hate hate hate giving out cash

stanflt · 11-09-2011 06:03PM

whelan1 wrote: »

i give 40 a milking but that includes about half an hours work after wards- feeding etc

thats serious money lads-

thank god for family-give them a dinner at the weekend and their grand:)

whelan1 · 11-09-2011 06:08PM

stanflt wrote: »

thats serious money lads-

thank god for family-give them a dinner at the weekend and their grand:)

yes but you can tell paid people to fook off, a bit harder to do that with your family:D

whelan1 · 12-09-2011 08:29AM

just had the strangest morning ever:rolleyes: went for the cows in the wind and the driving rain, had a heifer in the first row that ripped her udder on barbed wire last week- thats another story:cool:- and is a total bitch to milk, couldn't get near her so put her in crush until i might have some help. Went out to get her a while later she was choking , was hanging by her head between the bar for opening the gate at the front of the crush and the top side bar of the crush iykwim. I had panic stations for a few minutes but got a spanner and loosened off the bar for opening the gate and she fell down ... is ok now thank god. Then went out to get a few freshly calved cows in calving paddock, there was a cow lying on a calf- he was dead, so pulled him in out of the field, milked fresh ones came out and the calf was sitting up:eek: now my dad saw that he was dead too...so lazarus is now getting tlc, not sure if he will make it. Then the cow who sat on the calf was calving and had a backwards friesian heifer calf, all alive and well

5live · 12-09-2011 08:39AM

whelan1 wrote: »

just had the strangest morning ever:rolleyes: went for the cows in the wind and the driving rain, had a heifer in the first row that ripped her udder on barbed wire last week- thats another story:cool:- and is a total bitch to milk, couldn't get near her so put her in crush until i might have some help. Went out to get her a while later she was choking , was hanging by her head between the bar for opening the gate at the front of the crush and the top side bar of the crush iykwim. I had panic stations for a few minutes but got a spanner and loosened off the bar for opening the gate and she fell down ... is ok now thank god. Then went out to get a few freshly calved cows in calving paddock, there was a cow lying on a calf- he was dead, so pulled him in out of the field, milked fresh ones came out and the calf was sitting up:eek: now my dad saw that he was dead too...so lazarus is now getting tlc, not sure if he will make it. Then the cow who sat on the calf was calving and had a backwards friesian heifer calf, all alive and well

Looks like the grim reaper is talking the day off around you. So a good day despite the weather:)

bbam · 12-09-2011 09:39AM

whelan1 wrote: »

just had the strangest morning ever:rolleyes: went for the cows in the wind and the driving rain, had a heifer in the first row that ripped her udder on barbed wire last week- thats another story:cool:- and is a total bitch to milk, couldn't get near her so put her in crush until i might have some help. Went out to get her a while later she was choking , was hanging by her head between the bar for opening the gate at the front of the crush and the top side bar of the crush iykwim. I had panic stations for a few minutes but got a spanner and loosened off the bar for opening the gate and she fell down ... is ok now thank god. Then went out to get a few freshly calved cows in calving paddock, there was a cow lying on a calf- he was dead, so pulled him in out of the field, milked fresh ones came out and the calf was sitting up:eek: now my dad saw that he was dead too...so lazarus is now getting tlc, not sure if he will make it. Then the cow who sat on the calf was calving and had a backwards friesian heifer calf, all alive and well

Some start to the week...
Wind picking up steadily here... It always drives the stock mad..maybe not as mad as yours though;)

bbam · 12-09-2011 09:43AM

Here's some rushes we licked about 4 weeks ago, they had been cut in May.
We made the weedlicker ourselves and weren't sure how it would go...
Very happy with the results... Have a few more fields cut and read to be licked but they are very soft at this stage and will probably leave them until harder weather...

Atilathehun · 12-09-2011 09:50AM

bbam wrote: »

Here's some rushes we licked about 4 weeks ago, they had been cut in May.
We made the weedlicker ourselves and weren't sure how it would go...
Very happy with the results... Have a few more fields cut and read to be licked but they are very soft at this stage and will probably leave them until harder weather...

Excellent results there. I had a few acres sprayed about eight weeks ago. using Agroxone, and to be honest, I didn't get nearly as good a kill as you have got.
What chemical did you use as a matter of interest?

bbam · 12-09-2011 10:08AM

Atilathehun wrote: »

Excellent results there. I had a few acres sprayed about eight weeks ago. using Agroxone, and to be honest, I didn't get nearly as good a kill as you have got.
What chemical did you use as a matter of interest?

We used Gallup at a 1:5 or 1:6 mix.
Judging by the results we could probably dilute more. However I'd rather keep it strong and get such a good kill first time round.

I love killing rushes!

The_Conductor · 12-09-2011 10:12AM

bbam wrote: »

We used Gallup at a 1:5 or 1:6 mix.
Judging by the results we could probably dilute more. However I'd rather keep it strong and get such a good kill first time round.

I love killing rushes!

Just wondering- after you kill the rushes- what sort of drainage regime do you put in place? I was discussing this with a few others and everyone seemed to have different ideas.

bbam · 12-09-2011 10:35AM

smccarrick wrote: »

Just wondering- after you kill the rushes- what sort of drainage regime do you put in place? I was discussing this with a few others and everyone seemed to have different ideas.

Had a lad in last year and got all major drains cleaned and then fenced them off..The fields will drain over time as lots of stone drains are now runnning again.. Some areas will need drains again but I'll wait for a few years before doing so.

The rushes are on both sodden ground and have spread to good ground.. While we're licking all areas we expect that the good dry areas of the fields will remain clear and regrowth of rushes in the wetter ground..

reilig · 12-09-2011 10:36AM

smccarrick wrote: »

Just wondering- after you kill the rushes- what sort of drainage regime do you put in place? I was discussing this with a few others and everyone seemed to have different ideas.

I think a lot of it will depend on the type of soil. Around here, a lot of the land has already been drained, but the soil is so shallow and so heavy that it continues to grow the rushes. A policy of licking them every second year is probably the cheapest solution. This year I have started to mole plough into the field boundary drains and into the stone drains that run across most of the fields. I doubt if it will see a reduction in the amount of rushes that grow, but i have no doubt that it allows for increased drainage - this is especially visible where the mole runs into an open drain. It is possible to see water flowing through the holes at all times (esp. in weather like this). Also, mole drainage opens up the soil a bit and allows air into it - this can only be good for soil improvement and drying.

bbam · 12-09-2011 11:19AM

reilig wrote: »

I think a lot of it will depend on the type of soil. Around here, a lot of the land has already been drained, but the soil is so shallow and so heavy that it continues to grow the rushes. A policy of licking them every second year is probably the cheapest solution.

Yea..
We expect to be licking rushes every year but hopefully less and less each year.. Main priority is to clear good ground where rushes have spread from the wetter areas.

johngalway · 12-09-2011 11:21AM

I'm not draining at this stage, I'm bloody quarrying to clean out the old drains. Everythings getting opened though, down to the hard packed sand/stones. I reckon reilig is onto something with land types. Pretty sure mine will still grow rushes, just maybe not to the same extent. I know after knocking the snot out of them with Mortone last year, there's a fair few come up again from seed I guess. Haven't had the weather to tackle them yet :rolleyes:

5live · 12-09-2011 12:46PM

Read the herd test on saturday and one doubtful. But milk collected now and cows back over a half gallon. Does anyone else find that or are my girls way over sensitive

They were back over a gallon on saturday evening but came up again on sunday but every year the herd test knocks a half gallon off them for the rest of the year:mad:

whelan1 · 12-09-2011 12:55PM

cathalmac wrote: »

yeah I was paying 70 a day for an experienced lad earlier on in the year. Suppose we'll give this lad a go and see how he gets on.

out of interest how many hours , was milkings included and was that cash in hand ? think i am seriously over paying if that is the case

whelan1 · 12-09-2011 12:56PM

5live wrote: »

Read the herd test on saturday and one doubtful. But milk collected now and cows back over a half gallon. Does anyone else find that or are my girls way over sensitive

They were back over a gallon on saturday evening but came up again on sunday but every year the herd test knocks a half gallon off them for the rest of the year:mad:

hate tb test always hassle, no matter how careful you are something always goes wrong like a cows throws a calf a while after or mastitis

Tora Bora · 12-09-2011 01:09PM

johngalway wrote: »

I'm not draining at this stage, I'm bloody quarrying to clean out the old drains. Everythings getting opened though, down to the hard packed sand/stones. I reckon reilig is onto something with land types. Pretty sure mine will still grow rushes, just maybe not to the same extent. I know after knocking the snot out of them with Mortone last year, there's a fair few come up again from seed I guess. Haven't had the weather to tackle them yet :rolleyes:

I have a field around the sheds, which is as dry as you can imagine. Yet, I've noticed a few clumps of rushes coming here and there over the past number of years. I spray with the knapsack, but you can be assured I get a few more following season.
Maybe I should get a soil test done, and act accordingly.

Lime may be required, but as I'm in a high molybdenum area, adding lime may not be recommended.

bbam · 12-09-2011 01:32PM

whelan1 wrote: »

hate tb test always hassle, no matter how careful you are something always goes wrong like a cows throws a calf a while after or mastitis

Yea. Few years ago we had cows in waiting for vet who was overdue. Cow tried to jump out of pen. Caught her back leg between top bars, she was a large limousine cow but she hung there while I ran off, had to put loader onto tractor ( of course it was off).
Had to get strap under her front legs and lift her up to free the leg. When vet came she could hardly walk, was shocked it didn't break as she was hanging on it for about 30 minutes.

Our neighbour has red limousine suckled herd, crazy stock, they got away when testing and we had them for a few days. But then they never see him out of the jeep

5live · 12-09-2011 01:32PM

Bone dry here now but strong blustery wind. And saw 4 or 5 out spreading fertiliser. Theres going to be lovely stripes on those fields this year. I know the 15th is coming but they will hardly come on the 16th checking? Will they

. Bloody calender farming:mad:

jeff greene · 12-09-2011 03:04PM

5live wrote: »

Bone dry here now but strong blustery wind. And saw 4 or 5 out spreading fertiliser. Theres going to be lovely stripes on those fields this year. I know the 15th is coming but they will hardly come on the 16th checking? Will they. Bloody calender farming:mad:

Crazy today, its hard to walk across the yard here with sudden gusts.

How many units will ye go out with?

snowman707 · 12-09-2011 03:33PM

5live wrote: »

Bone dry here now but strong blustery wind. And saw 4 or 5 out spreading fertiliser. Theres going to be lovely stripes on those fields this year. I know the 15th is coming but they will hardly come on the 16th checking? Will they. Bloody calender farming:mad:

the 14th is last day for spreading ,

we have dirty water and a few loads of slurry , it will have to go out on wednesday hail or shine

Username John · 12-09-2011 03:55PM

snowman707 wrote: »

the 14th is last day for spreading ,

we have dirty water and a few loads of slurry , it will have to go out on wednesday hail or shine

I thought it was 15th Sept. for chemcial fertiliser
But 15th Oct. for organic fertiliser?

Now - I dont have slurry, so I wouldnt be very certain, just had it in me head that 15th Sept aplied for bag stuff only?

whelan1 · 12-09-2011 05:51PM

5live wrote: »

Bone dry here now but strong blustery wind. And saw 4 or 5 out spreading fertiliser. Theres going to be lovely stripes on those fields this year. I know the 15th is coming but they will hardly come on the 16th checking? Will they. Bloody calender farming:mad:

kerry men:D

whelan1 · 12-09-2011 05:53PM

got a letter today from the sfp office about an over claim on a bit of land 0.2ha :rolleyes: just wondering will this slow my das payment and my sfp initial payment fook it anyway, got a letter about a month ago looking for my farmyard and sent that straight back

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