Why are young Irish women so rude in bars/clubs?

Miss Olenska · 04-09-2011 01:29PM

py2006 wrote: »

From my experience, the EE tend to stick to themselves. There are a few lads going out with EE girls of course. I dated one on and off myself for a while.

They are quite old fashioned in their approach to dating etc.

These EE Irish relationships still happen but just less than a few years ago because there are less EE people around.

04-09-2011 01:29PM

Raekwon wrote: »

Where did I mention anything about Irish girls in my post?

*eyes thread title*

Miss Olenska · 04-09-2011 01:30PM

Raekwon wrote: »

Where did I mention anything about Irish girls in my post?

Well, you seem to be criticising women for falling for Italian men's apparently sleazy chat up technique.

jameshealy19 · 04-09-2011 01:31PM

Miss Olenska wrote: »

Actually, lots of EE emigrants are very well educated.

I wouldn't think there's as many Irish EE relationships in general now as there was a few years back.

Yep many EE people are very well educated. 90% of them are in unskilled positions in this country. Yep some have degrees but are cleaning the floors in Tesco.

There's not as many Irish/EE relationship now then there was a few years back?
Emmmm.... maybe because a lot of EE people have gone home due to the recession??

IrishEyes19 · 04-09-2011 01:31PM

jameshealy19 wrote: »

What?? Guys want to talk to you!!
Gosh the cheek of them

If you weren't trying so much to sound all hillarious and the cool guy on this thread, you'd actually get what this girl is trying to say before you come in with your :rolleyes: and

and the likes.

What she means is, theres nothing more annoying when your out on a girls night out or any night out, and drunken fools keep approaching you when you make it obvious you are not interested.
Nobody wishes to be rude, but sometimes they dont get the hint.

Raekwon · 04-09-2011 01:31PM

Miss Olenska wrote: »

So, much like Irish blokes then? :pac:

More like every bloke to be fair.......and who can really blame them?

The King of Moo · 04-09-2011 01:31PM

jameshealy19 wrote: »

there is a certain attitude that Irish women have and in most cases its completely unjustified.
So many lads I know all say that girls in other countries are far more approachable, and I'm one of those lads who has lived overseas, and I have met and been with some really kind attractive kind foreign women.

Does everyone remember Breffiny Morgan from the Apprentice?
he was once on the Late Late talking about courtship in IReland. He said the difference between Irish girls and those in the US, is that in Eire the girls will look at you and say 'go away from me!' while the Yanks, even though they wouldn't be interested in you would have the banter, introduce you to their friends.

Do Irish women every wonder why more Irish men are dating foreign girls?
You don't see too many Polish or Czech lads dating Irish women, maybe because they're content with their own girls.

Also why the heck don't the Irish have a dating culture. Having dinner with someone in London is about the same texting a girl here.

Irish girls in general would want to liven the fu ck up.

Let's make an assumption and assume that this is true.
Don't you think it might have something to do with the way Irish people start relationships compared to the continent, for example?

Sure they have nightclubs there too, but the way most people get together is by meeting, sober, in normal social situations and getting to know each other.

Here, most go to a nightclub (along with the pub, pretty much the only social situation we have in this country) for a one-night stand that might evolve into a multiple-night stand, then a relationship.
Hence lots of girls being approached directly for sex by drunk guys every time they go out (and as a country we go out a lot).

Even if it were true that dem Irish bitches be all haughty up in the house, couldn't you understand why they might be?

You might be a suave, charming mofo, and genuinely nice and polite but if the girl you want to talk to is even moderately attractive, you can guarantee that she's been hit on poorly by scores of Irish men since she started going out, and it'd be understandable for her to assume you might be the same as them.

But to be honest, Irish women seem to be mostly the same as other women to me, you just need to talk to them more outside of nightclubs (not literally outside them on the street at 3AM of course, just you know, in everyday life)

py2006 · 04-09-2011 01:32PM

jameshealy19 wrote: »

There's not as many Irish/EE relationship now then there was a few years back?
Emmmm.... maybe because a lot of EE people have gone home due to the recession??

I think that was what she meant!

jaffacakesyum · 04-09-2011 01:33PM

jameshealy19 wrote: »

What?? Guys want to talk to you!!
Gosh the cheek of them

If I'm not in the mood to meet guys why should I have to put up with it? What's so bad about wanting to have a few drinks and catch up with my friends in peace without men annoying me?

I don't think I'm being unreasonable.

Raekwon · 04-09-2011 01:33PM

Miss Olenska wrote: »

Well, you seem to be criticising women for falling for Italian men's apparently sleazy chat up technique.

Yeah, women in general, I also said that most Italians don't approach Irish women because they don't find them attractive.

Miss Olenska · 04-09-2011 01:33PM

jameshealy19 wrote: »

There's not as many Irish/EE relationship now then there was a few years back?
Emmmm.... maybe because a lot of EE people have gone home due to the recession??

Yeah, that's it bascially.

Raekwon wrote: »

More like every bloke to be fair.......and who can really blame them?

And Irish women likewise often prefer foreign to Irish. Who can blame them?

We all look like potatoes! :pac:

Raekwon wrote: »

Yeah, women in general, I also said that most Italians don't approach Irish women because they don't find them attractive.

Or the handful of Italians you know?

Raekwon · 04-09-2011 01:34PM

bluewolf wrote: »

*eyes thread title*

:rolleyes:

LeeHoffmann · 04-09-2011 01:36PM

I agree Irish women are a waste of time. Having been to several countries and expierenced their women

:pac::pac::pac: I thought this was heading to a punchline. Turns out it is the punchline.

if the girl you want to talk to is even moderately attractive, she's been hit on poorly by scores of Irish men since she started going out

I guess I'm one of the uggers

:pac:

py2006 · 04-09-2011 01:37PM

LeeHoffmann wrote: »

:pac::pac::pac: I thought this was heading to a punchline. Turns out it is the punchline.

I guess I'm one of the uggers :pac:

If ya didn't have a dudes name you would get hit on more often! lol :P

The King of Moo · 04-09-2011 01:38PM

Raekwon wrote: »

Yeah, women in general, I also said that most Italians don't approach Irish women because they don't find them attractive.

Oh, I'm sorry, but I know a few Italian guys and this is certainly not true of them.

The ones I know think Irish girls are generally gorgeous, good fun and.... not stuck up!!

The King of Moo · 04-09-2011 01:40PM

LeeHoffmann wrote: »

:pac::pac::pac: I thought this was heading to a punchline. Turns out it is the punchline.

I guess I'm one of the uggers :pac:

Na, I'm sure you just attracted all the sweet, sensitive poetry-writing guys who were too shy to chat you up, but went home alone and pined for you

Sonics2k · 04-09-2011 01:40PM

jaffacakesyum wrote: »

If I'm not in the mood to meet guys why should I have to put up with it? What's so bad about wanting to have a few drinks and catch up with my friends in peace without men annoying me?

I don't think I'm being unreasonable.

Well to be fair.
If someone comes up and talks to you once, then they're probably interested in you. And that's fine.

Now if they won't feck off and leave you alone all night long, then it's a problem.

But I often get approached by girls on nights out, sometimes it bothers me and sometimes it doesn't. But I don't tar em all as creeps for not sodding off.

Raekwon · 04-09-2011 01:41PM

Miss Olenska wrote: »

And Irish women likewise often prefer foreign to Irish. Who can blame them? We all look like potatoes! :pac:

Potatoes? Speak for yourself

The truth of the matter is that more Irish guys end up in relationships with foreign women then Irish women with foreign men. Irish women might prefer foreign blokes but it's obviously not mutual for the most part if statistics are anything to go by.

jameshealy19 · 04-09-2011 01:46PM

jaffacakesyum wrote: »

If I'm not in the mood to meet guys why should I have to put up with it? What's so bad about wanting to have a few drinks and catch up with my friends in peace without men annoying me?

I don't think I'm being unreasonable.

Why do you go to bars nightclubs then?
You know you'll get approaching.

That's like saying I don't want to get hit by a car but I'm going to stand in the middle of a dual carriageway

LeeHoffmann · 04-09-2011 01:47PM

Na, I'm sure you just attracted all the sweet, sensitive poetry-writing guys who were too shy to chat you up, but went home alone and pined for you

Well I must be doing something right. My fiance's way out of my league - a true beauty if I do say so myself - and I approached him, so I guess my chat up technique is better than a lot of the men's on this thread

:cool:

Miss Olenska · 04-09-2011 01:47PM

Raekwon wrote: »

Potatoes? Speak for yourself

Now who thinks highly of themselves.

The truth of the matter is that more Irish guys end up in relationships with foreign women then Irish women with foreign men. Irish women might prefer foreign blokes but it's obviously not mutual for the most part if statistics are anything to go by.

There could be any number of reasons for that. But I know a fair few women in relationships with foreigners, including a few going out with EE lads.

Logical Fallacy · 04-09-2011 01:48PM

jameshealy19 wrote: »

Why do you go to bars nightclubs then?
You know you'll get approaching.

That's like saying I don't want to get hit by a car but I'm going to stand in the middle of a dual carriageway

Actually, standing in the middle of a dual carriage way would be a perfect place to not get hit by a car.:D

jaffacakesyum · 04-09-2011 01:50PM

jameshealy19 wrote: »

Why do you go to bars nightclubs then?
You know you'll get approaching.

That's like saying I don't want to get hit by a car but I'm going to stand in the middle of a dual carriageway

That's ridiculous.

I go to pubs/clubs with friends to spend time with them, have a few drinks, catch up, maybe go dancing. Have a good time.

This may surprise you but not all women go to clubs for your personal entertainment. Nor do all women go out to meet a guy for a shag :rolleyes:

py2006 · 04-09-2011 01:51PM

Even in this modern and equal society. It is still the expected 'role' for a guy to approach a girl especially in social settings like a pub or a club. That is what is expected and the way things are. There are exceptions of course but by and large the old tradition still stands.

So why be annoyed if a few guys try to talk to you? Even worse, why be rude about it?

If you are just out for a night with the girls, just say that.

KittyeeTrix · 04-09-2011 01:53PM

jameshealy19 wrote: »

Why do you go to bars nightclubs then?
You know you'll get approaching.

That's like saying I don't want to get hit by a car but I'm going to stand in the middle of a dual carriageway

See that's the thing James, women realise that some men assume cos they are in a nightclub they are out looking men when in actual fact they are not!!!

Am I supposed to never have a night out with friends because I'm married?? To be honest I'm beginning to understand why you and your mates got the brush off......
If you lack this basic understanding when sober, the mind boggles when thinking what you must be like drunk!

flutterflye · 04-09-2011 01:53PM

py2006 wrote: »

Even in this modern and equal society. It is still the expected 'role' for a guy to approach a girl especially in social settings like a pub or a club. That is what is expected and the way things are. There are exceptions of course but by and large the old tradition still stands.

So why be annoyed if a few guys try to talk to you? Even worse, why be rude about it?

If you are just out for a night with the girls, just say that.

My single female friends approach guys if the wish to speak to them.
So do most girls I know.
It's only 'expected' in your head me thinks.

Siuin · 04-09-2011 01:56PM

Raekwon wrote: »

Irish women might prefer foreign blokes but it's obviously not mutual for the most part if statistics are anything to go by.

Miss Olenska wrote: »

There could be any number of reasons for that. But I know a fair few women in relationships with foreigners, including a few going out with EE lads.

Indeed, and I'm proud to be one of them. My bf was born in the FSU and I love him to bits. It's ridiculous the amount of threads on AH where idiotic mass generalisations are made against all Irish women. FFS they need to get a life. Had a bad experience? Tough luck. If you prefer foreign women, there aren't going to be any Irish ladies crying into their hankies over you.

Raekwon · 04-09-2011 01:57PM

Miss Olenska wrote: »

Now who thinks highly of themselves.

Haha

I'm hardly Brad Pitt but I'm in decent physical shape and work hard to maintain it so why be happy to be lumped in with the other potatoes?

Miss Olenska wrote: »

There could be any number of reasons for that. But I know a fair few women in relationships with foreigners, including a few going out with EE lads.

Of course there are a fair few Irish women in relationships with foreign men, but they are in the minority and their numbers are totally eclipsed by the Irish men with foreign women ratio.

Miss Olenska · 04-09-2011 01:59PM

Raekwon wrote: »

Of course there are a fair few Irish women in relationships with foreign men, but they are in the minority and their numbers are totally eclipsed by the Irish men with foreign women ratio.

And where would one find this statistical analysis or it exclusively anecdotal?

Raekwon · 04-09-2011 01:59PM

Siuin wrote: »

Indeed, and I'm proud to be one of them. My bf was born in the FSU and I love him to bits. It's ridiculous the amount of threads on AH where idiotic mass generalisations are made against all Irish women. FFS they need to get a life. Had a bad experience? Tough luck. If you prefer foreign women, there aren't going to be any Irish ladies crying into their hankies over you.

There's no smoke without fire :pac:

Why are young Irish women so rude in bars/clubs?

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