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Would you care if your friend told you they used escorts/prositutes

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    #212
    Bipolar Joe
    Registered Users Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭Bipolar Joe


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    I'm a counsellor- so no!!!! :confused:

    Your therapist isnt degrading themself to give you that service though, are they?

    No, and neither is a prostitute degrading herself. It's her body. If it's completely consensual, she can do what she likes with it. She can cover herself in tattoos, piercings, staple paper to her skin, shave off all her hair and glue it to the soles of her feet, smash it against a wall repeatedly or use it as a money maker. Absolutely no one but the owner of the body has any right to say what can and can't be done with it. If you don't agree, then you're against personal freedom. In this world, the only sure thing I own is my body, and I'll use it however it moves me, I expect any one else to do the same.


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    #213
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    AskMyChocolate wrote: »
    My God. Your analogy not only doesn't fit, but actually underlines the argument that others are making, and you can't even see it. You are incapable of rational thought and you are accusing other people of being ridiculous!:eek:

    The correct analogy would be if your girlfriend/boyfriend was working in MacDonald's. In this case would you feel any jealousy, would it bother you, that she is cooking for somebody else , as cooking somebody dinner is a very social/romantic/intimate thing to do. The answer,obviously, is no as he/she is doing it to earn a living and feels no attachment to the customer.

    If he/she was doing it for another man/woman on a social basis, this would be a far bigger issue and might constitute cheating, especially if the person was doing it behind your back.

    The same rationale applies equally to prostitution. If I was going out with a prostitute/porn star, I knew what they did for a living and I made my choice. There is no cheating involved. If that person however sleeps with somebody else, behind my back, where there is no money involved, then that it is an act of intimacy and is cheating. Can you not see this?

    No.
    Sex is sex.
    In both instances she is still giving her body and performing the same acts.
    Only difference is, in one of those cases you are considering it to be intimate, something special, or why would you mind someone else having it (re: the cheating), but in the other case you are considering it to be nothing and would not mind her "giving it" to her clients.

    Cooking someone dinner is not romantic or intimate in all cases.
    I make my brother dinner, is that romantic or intimate? Hell no!!
    There are a different set of emotions attached to having sex with another person, as there is to making them food...


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    #214
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    I believe you're still living in the 1920's.

    Believe it or not. Sex isn't always about emotions and love.

    Sometimes it's just a shag.

    A shag both people want, that comes from a SHARED desire for that sexual act.
    My point is this.


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    #215
    Jesus Wept
    Registered Users Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Bipolar Joe wrote: »
    No, and neither is a prostitute degrading herself. It's her body. If it's completely consensual, she can do what she likes with it. She can cover herself in tattoos, piercings, staple paper to her skin, shave off all her hair and glue it to the soles of her feet, smash it against a wall repeatedly or use it as a money maker. Absolutely no one but the owner of the body has any right to say what can and can't be done with it. If you don't agree, then you're against personal freedom. In this world, the only sure thing I own is my body, and I'll use it however it moves me, I expect any one else to do the same.

    Tbh, if someone was self harming, they could be sectioned.


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    #216
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users Posts: 8,237 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    No.
    Sex is sex.
    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    Cooking someone dinner is not romantic or intimate in all cases.
    I make my brother dinner, is that romantic or intimate? Hell no!!
    There are a different set of emotions attached to having sex with another person, as there is to making them food...
    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    Exactly.
    Thats what it should be like, there should be some shared emotion when 2 people have sex. The way I see it anyway.

    Please. Make up your mind.

    One time you say Sex is just sex, doesn't have to involve emotion.
    But earlier you said it should.

    :cool:


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    #217
    7sr2z3fely84g5
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭7sr2z3fely84g5


    End of the day if brothels where legalised there would be bored married men,secondary students,college students,others in high reigns of society queueing up to use the services.


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    #218
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    I take it as you've never worked in a Call Centre's Customer Service department.
    Now that's a fúcking job that's bad for mental health!

    (I'm quite upset no-one seems to have acknowledged my rather long post on the last page :( )

    Actually I have :)
    And I did read your post. I respect your ideas about it.


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    #219
    Yag reuoY
    Closed Accounts Posts: 214 ✭✭Yag reuoY


    To be fair, the vast majority of women are so overly obssessed with materalism and money it's difficult to differentiate them from the girls over at Escort Ireland.


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    #220
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Not really, someone might just find their job extremely unfulfilling, monotonous or demeaning without being treated unfairly at all.

    Thats not the same as it being degrading.


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    #221
    pablomakaveli
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    Yes, but they KNOW that if they are having sex with them, its because they WANT TO, whatever their reason for wanting to is doesnt matter.

    This is the point here!!

    And you might say a prostitute wants to have the sex they have too, but they dont. They want the money.

    Having sex and not enjoying it, time and time and time again, is surely going to be damaging to someone.

    You seem to think you know these peoples minds and way of thinking better than they do.

    All the above is just you're assumption based on your own personal opinions not on the opinions of the people themselves.


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    #222
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,144 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    Thats not the same as it being degrading.

    Demeaning is a synonym for degrading.


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    #223
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    Bipolar Joe wrote: »
    No, and neither is a prostitute degrading herself. It's her body. If it's completely consensual, she can do what she likes with it. She can cover herself in tattoos, piercings, staple paper to her skin, shave off all her hair and glue it to the soles of her feet, smash it against a wall repeatedly or use it as a money maker. Absolutely no one but the owner of the body has any right to say what can and can't be done with it. If you don't agree, then you're against personal freedom. In this world, the only sure thing I own is my body, and I'll use it however it moves me, I expect any one else to do the same.

    As human beings, we are not designed to be happy or emotionally fulfilled through having meaningless sex with lots and lots of strangers.
    Simple as.


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    #224
    Raze_them_all
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    As human beings, we are not designed to be happy or emotionally fulfilled through having meaningless sex with lots and lots of strangers.
    Simple as.
    Oh you've completely unlocked dna now have you?

    Piss off I'm quite happy ****ing as many girls as i can.


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    #225
    Miss Olenska
    Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Miss Olenska


    I can actually answer this question definitively! I have a male friend who has used prostitutes in the past and no, I don't judge him.


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    #226
    pablomakaveli
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    As human beings, we are not designed to be happy or emotionally fulfilled through having meaningless sex with lots and lots of strangers.
    Simple as.

    How do you know that?


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    #227
    Bipolar Joe
    Registered Users Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭Bipolar Joe


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    As human beings, we are not designed to be happy or emotionally fulfilled through having meaningless sex with lots and lots of strangers.
    Simple as.

    For people starved for affection I'd imagine even this gives emotional relief.


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    #228
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    Please. Make up your mind.

    One time you say Sex is just sex, doesn't have to involve emotion.
    But earlier you said it should.

    :cool:

    My mind is very firmly made up.
    I dont think any sexual act should be nothing more then satisfying another person for financial gain

    When I said sex is sex, I meant it holds the same value in both situations.


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    #229
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    Yag reuoY wrote: »
    To be fair, the vast majority of women are so overly obssessed with materalism and money

    Im one, and Im not.


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    #230
    Turpentine
    Registered Users Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Turpentine


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    My mind is very firmly made up.
    I dont think any sexual act should be nothing more then satisfying another person for financial gain

    When I said sex is sex, I meant it holds the same value in both situations.

    What about a trophy wife who only dates/marries a man because he's rich/powerful?

    Granted, she's charging him a lot more in the long run, possibly culminating in half of his earnings through a divorce. Does that make the situation acceptable in your eyes?
    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    As human beings, we are not designed to be happy or emotionally fulfilled through having meaningless sex with lots and lots of strangers.
    Simple as.

    It's not up to you or anyone else to personally adjudicate what fulfills the happiness or emotional needs every single human being on the planet just because of how you personally would be affected.


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    #231
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Demeaning is a synonym for degrading.

    So?


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    #232
    Bipolar Joe
    Registered Users Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭Bipolar Joe


    Ladies and gents, I'm out. It's like debating with a Catholic lawyer who wrote their thesis on loopholes and ignoring points.


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    #233
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    Raze_them_all wrote: »
    Oh you've completely unlocked dna now have you?

    Piss off I'm quite happy ****ing as many girls as i can.

    I said meaningless sex, with lots and lots of strangers.
    If this is what you mean, then youve got problems, and obviously no respect for yourself.


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    #234
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,144 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Not really, someone might just find their job extremely unfulfilling, monotonous or demeaning without being treated unfairly at all.
    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    Thats not the same as it being degrading.
    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Demeaning is a synonym for degrading.
    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    So?

    I'll let you figure it out :pac:


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    #235
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    pablomakaveli wrote: »
    How do you know that?

    Ill narrow that down to women then.


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    #236
    Bipolar Joe
    Registered Users Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭Bipolar Joe


    Oh, and as a last point, sex with many people is EXACTLY what humans were designed to do. Monogamy is relatively new, marriage newer still.


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    #237
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    Turpentine wrote: »
    What about a trophy wife who only dates/marries a man because he's rich/powerful?

    Granted, she's charging him a lot more in the long run, possibly culminating in half of his earnings through a divorce. Does that make the situation acceptable in your eyes?

    No, I also think thats wrong. It lacks feeling.


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    #238
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    Bipolar Joe wrote: »
    Oh, and as a last point, sex with many people is EXACTLY what humans were designed to do. Monogamy is relatively new, marriage newer still.

    We are designed to evolve and change and grow.


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    #239
    Raze_them_all
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    I said meaningless sex, with lots and lots of strangers.
    If this is what you mean, then youve got problems, and obviously no respect for yourself.
    lol wild guess, you're religious.


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    #240
    evry1sm8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    Raze_them_all wrote: »
    lol wild guess, you're religious.

    Wrong. Im not at all religious :cool:


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    #241
    Raze_them_all
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    Wrong. Im not at all religious :cool:
    wow so you're just this judgemental about people you know nothing about all on yer own?


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