Farming Chit Chat

whelan1 · 26-08-2011 01:53PM

blue5000 wrote: »

Relig that's one of the very few advantages of living in Leitrim, have you anymore?

On the subject of visegrips I hide mine with a set of metric spanners and a decent;) hammer in a small toolbox under the seat of the jeep. That way at least I know where they are.

yup that way YOU know where they are are no one else does:D

jerdee · 26-08-2011 02:09PM

hope they were the good ones genuine proper vise grip not those cheap plastic cover knuckledusters............other wise i would leave them be

who the fug · 26-08-2011 03:12PM

Vice grips baler twine and a hammar , with them basic tools I reckon Macra na Feirme could reach Mars

superstoner90 · 26-08-2011 03:13PM

whelan1 wrote: »

thought i had enough dairy nuts for a week , but turns out the nuts where stuck on the view hole and the bin is empty:eek: only at the weekend would it happen:mad:

hahaha that was hilerious

whelan1 · 26-08-2011 03:23PM

superstoner90 wrote: »

hahaha that was hilerious

no not really

superstoner90 · 26-08-2011 03:33PM

whelan1 wrote: »

no not really

aw it was , but that type of thing only seems to happen very rarely

leg wax · 26-08-2011 08:57PM

Muckit wrote: »

Hi Legwax

I think you explained before, but can you give a brief run through of how you go about sowing it? ie what date did you set it? How did you set it? How much does it work out an acre? When do you start feeding it? How many cows/acre? etc. A lot of questions - sorry!

Did you see this weeks IFJ ? There's a pic of a lad picking his up with a forage wagon. He's going mixing it with wholecrop barley (i think) and making a pit of it. I didn't think you could do that, you learn something new everyday! It does make it a dearer feed though and you've the whole slurry issue then when feeding in a shed.

Also on the issue of out wintering. I know some of our neighbours across the pond in England build up grass covers in late summer/autumn to feed cattle on over the winter. Is this allowed in Ireland? Is grass any good like this?? like kale, could be supplemented. I know they'd plough up, but you could level and shake grass seed the following spring. Madness??

spayed off with rosate and sowed i think 5 june this year,spead slurry after sowing then 4 bags of 18/6/12 andclosed the gate,it was set with a aitchison slot sower 30euros a acre cost.seed was bought in england off cotswold seeds ,see them on the net for price, i set the hardy root mixture this year with rape ,i think the seed was around 28 euros.i started feeding it last year on the 1 of nov and 5 acres kept 28 weanlings 110 days they got 2bales of silage ever 3/4 days.as you know we had a hard winter last year,but they loved it and did really well on it.i have 14 acres of it this year so will be putting some cows out.theres a lot of info on you tube that i am takeing on board try looking up out wintering cattle and go from there i have.

bob charles · 26-08-2011 11:20PM

Tipp Man wrote: »

Bob i think you are mistaken

We summer graze nearly 200 cattle a year - selling in October/November and there is no shed on the beef farm. We have been in REPS 1, 2 and 3 and been inspected many times and it has never been an issue.

I think the issue is that if you are wintering cattle then you need the required level of storage even if the animal is outwintered all winter. so if you out winter 100 cattle you still need storage for 100 cattle even though the tank may never be used. That's how i see it anyway

Am open to correction of course

Your above scenario is a definite anyway, but I dont think there is somewhere that says in the Nitrates about only summer grazing, I will have a scan through the bible and come back to you lads about it. Unfortunately for the wrong reasons I am fairly well versed on the Regulations

pakalasa · 27-08-2011 10:16AM

leg wax wrote: »

.....as you know we had a hard winter last year,but they loved it and did really well on it.......

Last winter was hard, but it was cold and dry. I wonder how would it go in a very wet winter.

mattthetrasher · 27-08-2011 10:43AM

had a first calver bulling this morning and another one got a knock at herd test last week and id say slipped a calf. looked em up this morning on herdplus to confirm that yes they were the 2 highest ebi hfrs and out of the best cows wouldnt that just sicken your ****e.scanning monday morning so hopefully got most of the bad news today before we go away for the night for our wedding anniversary, aarrghhhhhhhhhhhh:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::mad::mad::mad::eek:

stanflt · 27-08-2011 01:30PM

mattthetrasher wrote: »

had a first calver bulling this morning and another one got a knock at herd test last week and id say slipped a calf. looked em up this morning on herdplus to confirm that yes they were the 2 highest ebi hfrs and out of the best cows wouldnt that just sicken your ****e.scanning monday morning so hopefully got most of the bad news today before we go away for the night for our wedding anniversary, aarrghhhhhhhhhhhh:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::mad::mad::mad::eek:

what bulls you using- how high is the ebi

blue5000 · 27-08-2011 01:44PM

Muckit wrote: »

Is it a pajero blue5000? We've a pajero and there's a box you slide out under the both seats

LC, there is a slide in drawer under the passenger seat, TBH I'd be afraid to pull it out, God only knows what's in there.......

whelan1 · 28-08-2011 08:13AM

when i was milking yesterday morning i had a fresh heifer to bring in at the end , she had been milked the day before and is well used to the parlour as i out tar on them in there.Anyway she went in the little gap into the pit- there was a close your eyes moment as i envisaged all the jars being broken- she walked up to the top and pulled off any clusters that where in her way and walked out the top:) phew

delaney001 · 28-08-2011 09:43AM

Bizzum wrote: »

Folks,
Anyone here find wrapping silage with 2 different colours of wrap to be more effective at reducing bird damage than single coloured bales?

I dont know about the two colour wrap, but drove past a field yesterday where there are about 30 bales wrapped and left scattered around the field. Half of em are white an the rest are black, the white ones are DESTROYED with bird holes. Black ones seem grand but maybe the holes just stand out more on the white plastic

chesera · 28-08-2011 09:43AM

I had a disasterous yield with new varity I tried this year called Snakebite. Same poor yield over 4 different fields. Only common denominator is the variety. Any similar experiences with this breed????

Suckler · 29-08-2011 07:13AM

Has anyone purchased an "anti-backing bar" to keep a beast up the crush? Seen a few on donedeal with videos etc. they seem simple but do they last? got quoted 190 + VAT for one today.

pakalasa · 29-08-2011 07:16AM

This one;
http://barrettengineering.ie/?p=101

reilig · 29-08-2011 08:02AM

Suckler wrote: »

Has anyone purchased an "anti-backing bar" to keep a beast up the crush? Seen a few on donedeal with videos etc. they seem simple but do they last? got quoted 190 + VAT for one today.

I made one for less than €20 with scrap metal that was lying about the house. They're very simple.

jerdee · 29-08-2011 10:33AM

reilig wrote: »

I made one for less than €20 with scrap metal that was lying about the house. They're very simple.

can yours move up and down the crush behind the animal or is it fixed.

cjpm · 29-08-2011 10:44AM

reilig wrote: »

I made one for less than €20 with scrap metal that was lying about the house. They're very simple.

God you must have a great wife if she lets you keep scrap in the house!!

reilig · 29-08-2011 11:26AM

cjpm wrote: »

God you must have a great wife if she lets you keep scrap in the house!!

She lets me keep it under the stairs

reilig · 29-08-2011 11:27AM

jerdee wrote: »

can yours move up and down the crush behind the animal or is it fixed.

Up and down

jerdee · 29-08-2011 01:29PM

if you don t mind it being a bit rough....

whelan1 · 29-08-2011 02:45PM

opened up in plate cooler earlier, to say it was manky was an understatement:o , normally in the winter would open it every few weeks as the sawdust blocks it, hadnt been done in a while. My tbc's where going up and down this last few weeks so hopefully this was the cause

Tipp Man · 29-08-2011 03:09PM

whelan1 wrote: »

opened up in plate cooler earlier, to say it was manky was an understatement:o , normally in the winter would open it every few weeks as the sawdust blocks it, hadnt been done in a while. My tbc's where going up and down this last few weeks so hopefully this was the cause

Whelan you've got me worried now that i'm not doing something that i should be doing

Can you explain what you do to the plate cooler (and sawdust??)

whelan1 · 29-08-2011 03:17PM

Tipp Man wrote: »

Whelan you've got me worried now that i'm not doing something that i should be doing

Can you explain what you do to the plate cooler (and sawdust??)

in the middle plate of our in plate cooler there is a tiny hole that lets air through, if this gets blocked the milk doesnt flow through properly , so when the milk is slow going in to the milk tank we open up the inplate cooler and there would be a tiny bit of sawdust blocking this hole:rolleyes:

johngalway · 29-08-2011 03:20PM

Trip to the vet this morning. Lambs have been in decent grass and getting fed but not thriving. Some scoury, all had been dosed twice. Brought some dung samples and told the tale. Left with Zolvix, he suspects resistance. Not what I wanted to hear, but what I expected, cold comfort being right!

Cran · 29-08-2011 04:08PM

johngalway wrote: »

Trip to the vet this morning. Lambs have been in decent grass and getting fed but not thriving. Some scoury, all had been dosed twice. Brought some dung samples and told the tale. Left with Zolvix, he suspects resistance. Not what I wanted to hear, but what I expected, cold comfort being right!

would be worth testing for resistance, which dosing with Zolvix will prevent for this year. Probably best leaving till next year now, as best to try and get some thrive back into the lambs.
Are you still going to test the dung, might be a waste of money if not dosing with white or yellow dose and then doing a follow up check to check resistance. what did you dose with previously white or yellow?

johngalway · 29-08-2011 07:12PM

Cran wrote: »

would be worth testing for resistance, which dosing with Zolvix will prevent for this year. Probably best leaving till next year now, as best to try and get some thrive back into the lambs.
Are you still going to test the dung, might be a waste of money if not dosing with white or yellow dose and then doing a follow up check to check resistance. what did you dose with previously white or yellow?

They got two rounds of Panacur SC this Summer which is white. Wouldn't mind but I'd planned to do FEC's this year but kept putting them on the long finger :rolleyes: Not testing the dung, will see how the lambs do for a bit, if I can get shot of them if they put a bit more condition on I will. So much for getting them away early this year

Agree with you about leaving the testing until next year really, bit late now.

milkprofit · 29-08-2011 08:03PM

Whelan 1
Make sure filter is before plate cooler
keep filter in when washing no saw dust should get to plate cooler

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