Farming Chit Chat

pakalasa

Suckler wrote: »

does anyone have a wiring diagram for Massey 135 by any chance? Got the auld fella the full repair manual but got knows where he has it left:mad: At the moment he's tow-starting it. He's on about getting a neighbour just to wire up the starter meaning it'll be half done if I dont do it.

From google search;
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/general-vintage-tractors/162699d1271860356-massey-ferguson-135-wiring-mf135-d-elect-small-.jpg

http://www.ssbtractor.com/wwwboard/view_all.cgi?bd=massey&msg=12862

leg wax

just had a reps inspection all fine.:Dand was very happy that i winter cattle out all winter as i have not enough storage for slurry.

Suckler

Cheers Vincencolorenzo & Pakalasa - couldnt find a clear diagram but the documents were found at home once I encouraged them to look again!:rolleyes: Although Im not looking forward to the next time Im in the wrong:o

Username John

leg wax wrote: »

just had a reps inspection all fine.:Dand was very happy that i winter cattle out all winter as i have not enough storage for slurry.

Great to hear Leg Wax.

Could you give a run through how the inspection went, what was inspected?

Interesting re the out-wintering, I didnt know you could do that. Did you have them on kale or something, or just on rough ground?

Charlie Charolais

Username John wrote: »

Great to hear Leg Wax.

Could you give a run through how the inspection went, what was inspected?

Interesting re the out-wintering, I didnt know you could do that. Did you have them on kale or something, or just on rough ground?

ya John, I thought your cattle numbers would be limted by your slurry storage capacity?

leg wax

Username John wrote: »

Great to hear Leg Wax.

Could you give a run through how the inspection went, what was inspected?

Interesting re the out-wintering, I didnt know you could do that. Did you have them on kale or something, or just on rough ground?

a run down, i got a phone call yesterday morning to say i had a inspection at 2 oclock, a very nice lady arrived and shecame into the house had a cup of tea and a chat went through all maps that were involved,60 acres to be exact, but iam farming 120 acres but no maps.she went off for a walk around the farm checked clover birdboxes and new hedge and trees[which you cannot see as they are covered up with growth of weeds]. she then measured the slurry tanks and one shed with cubicals, i had 17 spinging cows in the shed on hay and straw,she then had a copy of my herd numbers for dec at which point i had 160 cattle on hands,she asked me where i kept them all i told her out side on kale she asked to see it brought her to see it and was happy with that,she did not ask for maps or anything.

leg wax

Charlie Charolais wrote: »

ya John, I thought your cattle numbers would be limted by your slurry storage capacity?

if you dont have buildings or tanks can the dept stop you keeping cattle.if you dont winter in cattle can the dept make you put up a tank even if it is not used.

Charlie Charolais

leg wax wrote: »

if you dont have buildings or tanks can the dept stop you keeping cattle.if you dont winter in cattle can the dept make you put up a tank even if it is not used.

well done on passing it!

Is it not a clause of reps entry that you have slats?
i remember we had an inspection, must be 15 years ago, the slats were full & we had 10 weanlings out, the inspector didn't like it but only because they had access to an open flat shed we passed it

leg wax

Charlie Charolais wrote: »

well done on passing it!

Is it not a clause of reps entry that you have slats?
i remember we had an inspection, must be 15 years ago, the slats were full & we had 10 weanlings out, the inspector didn't like it but only because they had access to an open flat shed we passed it

i dont know being straight and honest about it but i was not talking about being in reps above,i am only throwing suggestions out,one of the big dairy farms 3 miles away from me was told they needed more storage for slurry,with the cost of the new tank and the cost of emptying it every year he put in place a debauer[cant spell] a ****s squezzer,slurry from channel enters the machine the dry matter is squezzed out the dirty water that is left is spread by the on farm dirty water system[you can spread dirty water all year i think]the small amount of solids is put up on the dung heap,thinking out side of the box got around the rules by not breaking them,the machine cost a lot of money but he has no slurry speading bill.

vanderbadger

leg wax wrote: »

a run down, i got a phone call yesterday morning to say i had a inspection at 2 oclock, a very nice lady arrived and shecame into the house had a cup of tea and a chat went through all maps that were involved,60 acres to be exact, but iam farming 120 acres but no maps.she went off for a walk around the farm checked clover birdboxes and new hedge and trees[which you cannot see as they are covered up with growth of weeds]. she then measured the slurry tanks and one shed with cubicals, i had 17 spinging cows in the shed on hay and straw,she then had a copy of my herd numbers for dec at which point i had 160 cattle on hands,she asked me where i kept them all i told her out side on kale she asked to see it brought her to see it and was happy with that,she did not ask for maps or anything.

any pics of the cattle out during the winter wax or of the kale?

leg wax

vanderbadger wrote: »

any pics of the cattle out during the winter wax or of the kale?

no pics of cattle out on kale but new crop on pic thread.

bob charles

Its a requirement by law that once over 140kgs of N per ha that you have to have adequate slurry storage, no if's, but's or maybe's, even if you dont keep cattle overwinter. For a farmer without adequate storage facilities able to pass the nitrates inspection is a bit of a kick in the nuts for the many spending big money to keep authority happy. Im in the process of putting up another 150gls of storage just to keep the all too many box tickers that arrive on my yard, even though we would have some of the best outwintering lands (rough land/bushes/trees etc) available, but this is a strict no no.

leg wax

bob charles wrote: »

Its a requirement by law that once over 140kgs of N per ha that you have to have adequate slurry storage, no if's, but's or maybe's, even if you dont keep cattle overwinter. For a farmer without adequate storage facilities able to pass the nitrates inspection is a bit of a kick in the nuts for the many spending big money to keep authority happy. Im in the process of putting up another 150gls of storage just to keep the all too many box tickers that arrive on my yard, even though we would have some of the best outwintering lands (rough land/bushes/trees etc) available, but this is a strict no no.

so bob you are saying that a farmer who buys in cattle in march sells in oct has to have slurry storage.

bob charles

leg wax wrote: »

so bob you are saying that a farmer who buys in cattle in march sells in oct has to have slurry storage.

going by the regulations yes if they are over 140kgs N per ha. Its a complete joke but them's the rules and its enforceable by law :mad:

5live

bob charles wrote: »

going by the regulations yes if they are over 140kgs N per ha. Its a complete joke but them's the rules and its enforceable by law :mad:

Are you certain about that? Lots of guys round me buy in for summer grazing and for DA and SFP and dont have as much as a shed to store a few bales of straw, just a small yard and crush.

But just thinking they wouldnt be over the 140kg over the whole year, just the summer

bob charles

I will double check the regulations but im nearly certain there is only a provision for reduced storage under 140kgs N per Ha

keep going

sorry to disagree but i think its you must be under 140 on any given day of the wintering period and no dairy cows

whelan1

husband just noticed that the bars for tightening the chains on his lowloader are gone they had been sitting on the trailer in our yard ... fookers must have robbed them ... there is always someone in our yard so they must have taken them during the night... must have a look to see if anything else is gone
edited to say panic over he found them

leg wax

whelan1 wrote: »

husband just noticed that the bars for tightening the chains on his lowloader are gone they had been sitting on the trailer in our yard ... fookers must have robbed them ... there is always someone in our yard so they must have taken them during the night... must have a look to see if anything else is gone
edited to say panic over he found them

hes a man it did not jump up and bite him and say where you left me:o

Tipp Man

bob charles wrote: »

I will double check the regulations but im nearly certain there is only a provision for reduced storage under 140kgs N per Ha

Bob i think you are mistaken

We summer graze nearly 200 cattle a year - selling in October/November and there is no shed on the beef farm. We have been in REPS 1, 2 and 3 and been inspected many times and it has never been an issue.

I think the issue is that if you are wintering cattle then you need the required level of storage even if the animal is outwintered all winter. so if you out winter 100 cattle you still need storage for 100 cattle even though the tank may never be used. That's how i see it anyway

Am open to correction of course

whelan1

leg wax wrote: »

hes a man it did not jump up and bite him and say where you left me:o

get that the whole time if its not him its the kids looking for something ... 25% of my time is spent looking for things they have lost and most of the time they are straight in front of them:rolleyes:

Tipp Man

whelan1 wrote: »

husband just noticed that the bars for tightening the chains on his lowloader are gone they had been sitting on the trailer in our yard ... fookers must have robbed them ... there is always someone in our yard so they must have taken them during the night... must have a look to see if anything else is gone
edited to say panic over he found them

Spent 1 whole day looking for the wheel barrow during the summer - cursed ever f##ker under the sun who might have robbed it, talk of installing CCTV, electric gates etc. Checked high up and no sign

Was wandering past 1 of the sheds at the end of the yard the next day that we had kept a sick cow in and low and behold there it was - felt like some idiots!

leg wax

somebody keeps on takeing my hammer and vice grip and sprong when i need them but always leave them back when i dont need them:o, i saw it somewhere

reilig

leg wax wrote: »

somebody keeps on takeing my hammer and vice grip and sprong when i need them but always leave them back when i dont need them:o, i saw it somewhere

Found 3 vice grips on the road past our house this summer. Obviously farmers had them clamped on their tractors to hold something in place and hitting the potholes knocked them off. Will never have to buy a vice grips again!

Bizzum

Folks,
Anyone here find wrapping silage with 2 different colours of wrap to be more effective at reducing bird damage than single coloured bales?

5live

reilig wrote: »

Found 3 vice grips on the road past our house this summer. Obviously farmers had them clamped on their tractors to hold something in place and hitting the potholes knocked them off. Will never have to buy a vice grips again!

You do know now you have said it, you are about to lose the 3 you found and another for good measure;)

Muckit

leg wax wrote: »

no pics of cattle out on kale but new crop on pic thread.

Hi Legwax

I think you explained before, but can you give a brief run through of how you go about sowing it? ie what date did you set it? How did you set it? How much does it work out an acre? When do you start feeding it? How many cows/acre? etc. A lot of questions - sorry!

Did you see this weeks IFJ ? There's a pic of a lad picking his up with a forage wagon. He's going mixing it with wholecrop barley (i think) and making a pit of it. I didn't think you could do that, you learn something new everyday! It does make it a dearer feed though and you've the whole slurry issue then when feeding in a shed.

Also on the issue of out wintering. I know some of our neighbours across the pond in England build up grass covers in late summer/autumn to feed cattle on over the winter. Is this allowed in Ireland? Is grass any good like this?? like kale, could be supplemented. I know they'd plough up, but you could level and shake grass seed the following spring. Madness??

Muckit

reilig wrote: »

Found 3 vice grips on the road past our house this summer. Obviously farmers had them clamped on their tractors to hold something in place and hitting the potholes knocked them off. Will never have to buy a vice grips again!

God bless your eye sight Outside on the mudguard is a great 'tool rest'!

blue5000

reilig wrote: »

Found 3 vice grips on the road past our house this summer. Obviously farmers had them clamped on their tractors to hold something in place and hitting the potholes knocked them off. Will never have to buy a vice grips again!

Relig that's one of the very few advantages of living in Leitrim, have you anymore?

On the subject of visegrips I hide mine with a set of metric spanners and a decent;) hammer in a small toolbox under the seat of the jeep. That way at least I know where they are.

Muckit

blue5000 wrote: »

in a small toolbox under the seat of the jeep.

Is it a pajero blue5000? We've a pajero and there's a box you slide out under the both seats