13 H'cap, considering new irons.

danthefan · 19-08-2011 11:17PM #1

I'm using Hogan Apex Plus irons at the moment. They're a nice club imo but my set is just getting very old at this stage, few chunks taken out of the heads here and there.

Probably willing to spend about €600 and would consider custom fitting.

So just wondering what's out there at the moment, haven't been paying attention at all to what sort of clubs are out there currently.

Tones69 · 19-08-2011 11:27PM

upto 600 to spend the choice is yours! check out golfstoreeurope.com and onlinegolf.co.uk among others, golfstore europe is great for custom fit stuff. Uve got a choice of about 20 really good sets there dude so goodluck picking

Pick a brand then uve got about 3 or 4 sets from that brand to choose from

Taylormade burners, Ping i15s etc Mizunos, 2 or 3 nice callaway sets too for under 600

Adiaga 2 · 19-08-2011 11:37PM

Mizuno Mp53s worth a look. Probably come in under budget too.

danthefan · 19-08-2011 11:45PM

I've just noticed that on websites like golfstoreeurope as standard they only offer 4 or 5 iron to PW and you have to pay for the extra clubs :eek:

I've two Cleveland wedges so could survive there but there's no way I'm buying a set without a 3 iron.

Thanks for the suggestions btw. One of the reasons I'm changing is that the irons I have are not really forgiving enough (imo) for my standard, they feel awful when you don't catch it sweet.

Tones69 · 19-08-2011 11:48PM

danthefan wrote: »

I've just noticed that on websites like golfstoreeurope as standard they only offer 4 or 5 iron to PW and you have to pay for the extra clubs :eek:

I've two Cleveland wedges so could survive there but there's no way I'm buying a set without a 3 iron.

Thanks for the suggestions btw. One of the reasons I'm changing is that the irons I have are not really forgiving enough (imo) for my standard, they feel awful when you don't catch it sweet.

Golfstore europe is one of the cheapest around, they give u all the options, very rare ul see any site selling 3 iron set for same price as 4-pw etc, they all charge a bit extra

Titleist AP1 custom fit 3-PW for €550 delivered or €420 for 4-pw
TM Burners custom fit 2.0 €570 3-pw or €438 4-pw
Ping i15 custom fit €585 3-pw or €520 4-pw

3 beauts for under ur budget, can chose from shafts and grips and shaft length etc etc, wont find any better around dude

danthefan · 19-08-2011 11:49PM

Tones69 wrote: »

Golfstore europe is one of the cheapest around, they give u all the options, very rare ul see any site selling 3 iron set for same price as 4-pw etc, they all charge a bit extra

Yeah I just didn't really realise that's how they were sold is all, I've bought stuff from golfstoreeurope before and I'm happy to buy from them again.

Reviews of those MP 53s seem very favourable, might try and test them out.

Tones69 · 20-08-2011 12:13AM

Look a nice iron alright, get good revies, worth hittin a few sets for sure

Tones69 · 20-08-2011 12:21AM

Just seen these Mizunos in mcguirks from 699 down to 499 and 3-PW, worth a tester for ya

k.p.h · 20-08-2011 12:24AM

I would also recommend a look at the MP 58's. It's probably one of the most forgiving players MB iron out their at the moment. Still a little bit pricey but for the technology with such a traditional feel/look they would be very hard to overlook. Brilliant reviews too.

dines08 · 20-08-2011 01:03AM

Callaway Razr X tours are worth a look, have the regular Razr x's. Top quality clubs

Adiaga 2 · 20-08-2011 08:17AM

danthefan wrote: »

Yeah I just didn't really realise that's how they were sold is all, I've bought stuff from golfstoreeurope before and I'm happy to buy from them again.

Reviews of those MP 53s seem very favourable, might try and test them out.

I've mentioned this a few times on here but if you're in Dublin then Kinsealy Grange driving range is a great place to try out clubs. They'll have all the latest Mizunos(for example) and with lots of different shaft and setup options. If you want to go the fitting route then foregolf seem to be the best in the business. I have the MP52s about 2 years and love them. They are as forgiving as any iron I've played but give great feedback so you know exactly what you've done but don't get overly punished. There's been so many times I've half topped shots and I'm about to say 'sh*t!' only to see the ball with a decent flight land on the front of a green.

brians947 · 20-08-2011 08:33AM

If you are serious about the game i would say go get fitted. For me it has to be foregolf. Others may say different. 50euro gets you a half hour which should get your irons fitted leaving 550 for clubs. 100 euro gets you full fitting of all clubs. My 3 iron was dropped out of the bag by them in favor of a Cleveland hybrid which i love.

dubtom · 20-08-2011 10:06AM

Tones69 wrote: »

Golfstore europe is one of the cheapest around, they give u all the options, very rare ul see any site selling 3 iron set for same price as 4-pw etc, they all charge a bit extra

Titleist AP1 custom fit 3-PW for €550 delivered or €420 for 4-pw
TM Burners custom fit 2.0 €570 3-pw or €438 4-pw
Ping i15 custom fit €585 3-pw or €520 4-pw

3 beauts for under ur budget, can chose from shafts and grips and shaft length etc etc, wont find any better around dude

I'm just asking because I don't know, but how does an online store custom fit,do you get fitted here and send on the data?? Would a shop in Dublin do that seeing as their not getting your buisness?

danthefan · 20-08-2011 10:44AM

dubtom wrote: »

I'm just asking because I don't know, but how does an online store custom fit,do you get fitted here and send on the data?? Would a shop in Dublin do that seeing as their not getting your buisness?

I just had a look there, it basically just gives you loads of options on grips, shafts, stiffness, lie, etc. You'd need all this info before ordering.

dubber · 20-08-2011 12:35PM

Wilson FG Tours might be an alternative?

plumber77 · 20-08-2011 02:54PM

MP-53's would get the nod from me too.Seriously thinking bout them as my next selection.Paying that kind of money though you have to get custom fit somewhere that you can actually see the result.Online isn't really an option in my opinion.best of luck and don't rush into anything.Prices should be coming down as the end of season draws to a close.Haggle like hell

irish bloke · 21-08-2011 03:23PM

I would seriously recommend you try out the taylormade burner 2.0 irons.
They are for mid to high handicappers (approx 8-18)and are a super iron.

On average they are about 10 yards longer then most irons and the forgiveness off a poor shot is very good.

Shafts and club head weight distribution are individually designed for each iron.

these are very popular at the moment and Nevada bobs are about the cheapest ive seen for them....

FixdePitchmark · 21-08-2011 08:07PM

Mizuno JPX 800 . (499 euro).

CLASS clubs, same as you off 12 and wanted to upgrade.

Hitting them very far, too far, big adjustment. about 1 club.

Feel great when hit well, forgiving too .

Was a close call as was looking a MP 53 too. But don't play winter golf , so needed something a little bit easier for early season.

Look unreal in bag.

Mizuno clubs and the classes of MPs are an art form and would need a full thread here.

Anyway , if Mizuno are good enough for Luke Donald they are good enough for me--

danthefan · 21-08-2011 10:38PM

Thanks for all the suggestions and it seems there are a lot of good irons out there but I think I'll be going with Mizuno, the reviews I've read have all been pretty outstanding. Now to start saving my pennies...

Johnny_Fontane · 22-08-2011 01:06PM

irish bloke wrote: »

I would seriously recommend you try out the taylormade burner 2.0 irons.
They are for mid to high handicappers (approx 8-18)and are a super iron.

On average they are about 10 yards longer then most irons and the forgiveness off a poor shot is very good.

Shafts and club head weight distribution are individually designed for each iron.

these are very popular at the moment and Nevada bobs are about the cheapest ive seen for them....

I played with a guy at the weekend who said that he was getting an extra 20 yards on these irons....surely thats a loft issue?

D Hayes · 22-08-2011 02:41PM

irish bloke wrote: »

I would seriously recommend you try out the taylormade burner 2.0 irons.
They are for mid to high handicappers (approx 8-18)and are a super iron.

On average they are about 10 yards longer then most irons and the forgiveness off a poor shot is very good.

Shafts and club head weight distribution are individually designed for each iron.

these are very popular at the moment and Nevada bobs are about the cheapest ive seen for them....

+1 for the Burners. I'm a mid-high handicapper and got these recently. Great set of clubs.

PhilipMarlowe · 22-08-2011 05:01PM

Johnny_Fontane wrote: »

I played with a guy at the weekend who said that he was getting an extra 20 yards on these irons....surely thats a loft issue?

The loft is strong and the shaft length is sometimes longer too.
If you take the MP-53 that people are recommending as an example:

7 iron of Burner 2.0 is 31 degrees with 37" length as against the MP-53 of 34 degrees and 36.75" length.
The Titleist AP2 7 iron is 35 degrees with a 37" length.

35 degrees is about "standard" for a 7 iron (mine is set to 36 degrees).

Of course the burner 2.0 is going to be 'long' and no wonder 'they' sell 5-PW sets

danthefan · 22-08-2011 07:58PM

I better check out these Burners too I suppose! I'll hit Kinsealy range at the weekend.

PRAF · 23-08-2011 09:58AM

I have the Taylormade Burners from a couple of years ago. Great set of irons. The latest set (2.0) seems to have received good reviews on Golf.com and GolfDigest.com. Worth a try at least!

Johnny_Fontane · 23-08-2011 04:24PM

Licksy wrote: »

The loft is strong and the shaft length is sometimes longer too.
If you take the MP-53 that people are recommending as an example:

7 iron of Burner 2.0 is 31 degrees with 37" length as against the MP-53 of 34 degrees and 36.75" length.
The Titleist AP2 7 iron is 35 degrees with a 37" length.

35 degrees is about "standard" for a 7 iron (mine is set to 36 degrees).

Of course the burner 2.0 is going to be 'long' and no wonder 'they' sell 5-PW sets

I find this astonishing....I have the rac lt's and checked out the lofts.....

Taylor Made rac Lt2 Irons Yes 3 21° 60°
Taylor Made rac Lt2 Irons Yes 4 24° 61°
Taylor Made rac Lt2 Irons Yes 5 27° 61.5°
Taylor Made rac Lt2 Irons Yes 6 31° 62°
Taylor Made rac Lt2 Irons Yes 7 35° 62.5°
Taylor Made rac Lt2 Irons Yes 8 39° 63°
Taylor Made rac Lt2 Irons Yes 9 43° 63.5°
Taylor Made rac Lt2 Irons Yes PW 47°

the burner 2.0's are exactly the same but a club down.....so 7 iron is 31 degrees....

thats a complete scam!!!

k.p.h · 23-08-2011 06:41PM

The Mizuno JPX 800's (pros) have stronger lofts too for those who didn't know.

peepee · 23-08-2011 07:17PM

Check out this table from Tom Wishons book

Table 1—The Dreaded Vanishing Loft Disease
Evolution of Men’s Wood & Iron Lofts—Industry Average

Club 1960s–70s 1980s Early 1990s 1997+

3-iron 24 23 22 20–21
4-iron 28 26 25 23–24
5-iron 32 30 28 26–27
6-iron 36 34 32 30–31
7-iron 40 38 36 34–35
8-iron 44 42 40 38–40
9-iron 48 46 44 42–44
PW 52 50 48 46–48
SW 56 56 56 55–56

henrycellers · 30-08-2011 11:37PM

playin off 7 was looking for some distance with my long irons my r7 tps were not giving me bought the taylormade 2.0 irons 595 in mcguirks 4 iron to sand wedge im hitting my 5 iron 200 yards with ease great forgiving irons try them out mate

andyoz · 14-09-2011 10:55AM

Pings are still great IMO.

i15's or save a load and buy a pristine pair of i3's, get them regripped and for less than €250 you'll have some keepers. A classic club with none of the fancy graphics that have crept into club design recently.

Bogieman · 14-09-2011 01:18PM

I'm off 12 and just got the JPX800.Just played a few rounds but am very happy.I tested the Burner 2.0 and the Cobra S2 and while they were both nice clubs I went for the more traditional look of the Mizuno's.

Johnny_Fontane · 14-09-2011 01:23PM

henrycellers wrote: »

playin off 7 was looking for some distance with my long irons my r7 tps were not giving me bought the taylormade 2.0 irons 595 in mcguirks 4 iron to sand wedge im hitting my 5 iron 200 yards with ease great forgiving irons try them out mate

:rolleyes:
you're not actually hitting a five iron, I know it says '5' on the sole, but its actually a four iron!

check the lofts

13 H'cap, considering new irons.

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