My solution to single mothers & social housing ?

Rabidlamb · 18-08-2011 11:09PM #1

The housing lists are backed up & a lot of pressure is being put on councils.
I've had this solution for sometime now, it's a bit incendiary but this might be the time to roll it out.

Single mothers who don't want to live with their parents & declare the father absent can share a house with another single mother in the same situation.

Before you get all Kevin Myers on my ass think about it, it would cut down on the couples who commit welfare fraud by secretly living with their partner.
It would halve the single mothers on the waiting list in no time & might prove a disincentive to those who still choose it as a lifestyle choice.

Kintarō Hattori · 18-08-2011 11:13PM

And what if the parents don't want their daughter living with them?

Ricardo G · 18-08-2011 11:14PM

With all the ghost estates around the country it would be much more acceptable to put families and single mothers IN NEED of a house into these imo

Sunnyisland · 18-08-2011 11:15PM

Just asking,

Who would decide what single mother lived with what single mother, and as most if not all single mothers are very young who would control the finances as in Bill payments,Rubbish collections etc, cant see it working to be honest.

CreepingDeath · 18-08-2011 11:15PM

Phase out childrens allowance altogether, so the lower classes can't afford to breed like rats.

earlyevening · 18-08-2011 11:16PM

What about all the unsold Mercedes cars in the country? We could give them to single mothers too.

Ricardo G · 18-08-2011 11:17PM

earlyevening wrote: »

What about all the unsold Mercedes cars in the country? We could give them to single mothers too.

No No No ! These should be given to all the Nigerian taxi drivers instead

dublin daz · 18-08-2011 11:18PM

Sure we might as well just open up the convents / industrial schools. That would reduce the housing list by 100%

While I don't agree with fraud, I think the family, in any form married or unmarried deserve to live with dignity.

mackg · 18-08-2011 11:18PM

realies wrote: »

Just asking,

Who would decide what single mother lived with what single mother, and as most if not all single mothers are very young who would control the finances as in Bill payments,Rubbish collections etc, cant see it working to be honest.

An e harmony type test to match them up anyway.

galwayrush · 18-08-2011 11:19PM

earlyevening wrote: »

What about all the unsold Mercedes cars in the country? We could give them to single mothers too.

Great idea, say...
1 kid qualifies them for an A class, 5 kids gets the S class..:pac::pac:

chucken1 · 18-08-2011 11:21PM

Rabidlamb wrote: »

The housing lists are backed up & a lot of pressure is being put on councils.
I've had this solution for sometime now, it's a bit incendiary but this might be the time to roll it out.

Single mothers who don't want to live with their parents & declare the father absent can share a house with another single mother in the same situation.

Before you get all Kevin Myers on my ass think about it, it would cut down on the couples who commit welfare fraud by secretly living with their partner.
It would halve the single mothers on the waiting list in no time & might prove a disincentive to those who still choose it as a lifestyle choice.

In theory,its not a bad idea,but how do the council choose to put in together?
2 of my neighbours(sisters)are single parents in their 30s. They both have boys and are each living in a 2 bed flat. They have begged to be moved in together to a 3 bed house,which would free up 2 flats,but its a big no no.

But you probably wouldnt have a simple solution like that in cities..you cant just throw 2 families together and hope they get on.

I became a single parent at 29 and dont think I couldve shared a house with another family as I never had before.

up for anything · 18-08-2011 11:21PM

Rabidlamb wrote: »

It would halve the single mothers on the waiting list in no time & might prove a disincentive to those who still choose it as a lifestyle choice.

Are single mothers a different breed to lone parents?

Have you any verifiable statistics on how many choose it as a lifestyle choice and how many are forced into the position?

Mint Sauce · 18-08-2011 11:22PM

Do we have that many aditional 4 bedroom houses going spare?

earlyevening · 18-08-2011 11:22PM

We could reduce unemployment significantly by employing cooks, gardeners, chauffers, handymen etc to help these manless single mothers.

; )

Slydice · 18-08-2011 11:22PM

oh wow, this thread is really going places... :rolleyes:

Rabidlamb · 18-08-2011 11:29PM

irish-stew wrote: »

Do we have that many aditional 4 bedroom houses going spare?

You don't need additional, that's the beauty of it.

Rabidlamb · 18-08-2011 11:34PM

realies wrote: »

Just asking,

Who would decide what single mother lived with what single mother, and as most if not all single mothers are very young who would control the finances as in Bill payments,Rubbish collections etc, cant see it working to be honest.

It's their choice whether or not they leave mammy, same as anyone growing up.
Most houses will have an incumbent so let them decide from the 3 candidates near the top of the list.

chucken1 · 18-08-2011 11:34PM

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Phase out childrens allowance altogether, so the lower classes can't afford to breed like rats.

Wow!

mackg · 18-08-2011 11:35PM

earlyevening wrote: »

We could reduce unemployment significantly by employing cooks, gardeners, chauffers, handymen etc to help these manless single mothers.

; )

Don't forget gigolos, they might be mothers but they still have needs!

El Weirdo · 18-08-2011 11:37PM

Rent Allowance/Supplement needs to be cut in order to make it more financially feasable for people to take offers of social housing.

At present many families are better off in private rented accommodation with the state paying their rent than they would be in social housing paying (max) ~€75p/w in rent.

chucken1 · 18-08-2011 11:39PM

Rabidlamb wrote: »

It's their choice whether or not they leave mammy, same as anyone growing up.
Most houses will have an incumbent so let them decide from the 3 candidates near the top of the list.

So the mothers you seem to be talking abut are very young??

Im a bit confused....why are you not addressing the problems of older mothers?

Ricardo G · 18-08-2011 11:41PM

chucken1 wrote: »

So the mothers you seem to be talking abut are very young??

Im a bit confused....why are you not addressing the problems of older mothers?

Its easier to spell MILF

earlyevening · 18-08-2011 11:42PM

mackg wrote: »

Don't forget gigolos, they might be mothers but they still have needs!

We could move a load of admin HSE staff to the new Dept of Gigilos maybe. Thats another problem solved!

chucken1 · 18-08-2011 11:42PM

El Weirdo wrote: »

Rent Allowance/Supplement needs to be cut in order to make it more financially feasable for people to take offers of social housing.

At present many families are better off in private rented accommodation with the state paying their rent than they would be in social housing paying €75p/w in rent.

Do you know I just discovered that :eek:

We pay 70 a week out of 312 whereas a friend of mine in Dublin is paying 24 a week in a private rental.

Something a bit odd there...

Mint Sauce · 18-08-2011 11:42PM

Rabidlamb wrote: »

You don't need additional, that's the beauty of it.

Well you all ready have 4 bed room houses being used as social houseing for mothers/parents with a few kids. If you start moving 2 single mothers in together, then you will need additional 4 bed houses. One room for each mother, and each child.

Stained Class · 18-08-2011 11:43PM

dublin daz wrote: »

Sure we might as well just open up the convents / industrial schools. That would reduce the housing list by 100%

While I don't agree with fraud, I think the family, in any form married or unmarried deserve to live off the state & all hardworking taxpayers.

FYP.

Think about it.

chucken1 · 18-08-2011 11:43PM

Ricardo G wrote: »

Its easier to spell MILF

Ohhhh

El Weirdo · 18-08-2011 11:43PM

chucken1 wrote: »

Do you know I just discovered that :eek:

We pay 70 a week out of 312 whereas a friend of mine in Dublin is paying 24 a week in a private rental.

Something a bit odd there...

Exactly. Many councils would slash their housing lists if they enforced the rules on refusing offers of housing, too.

Dyr · 18-08-2011 11:45PM

This is why I like AH, it reminds me that every time a major disaster happens that quite a lot of the casualties probably won't be any great loss to humanity.

Chuck Stone · 18-08-2011 11:45PM

Pffff you lack imagination OP Sir.

I think we should look to nature.

Consider the humble Honey Bee. Why not build vast appartment blocks where workers look after the grubs.. I mean babies and the women go out working for the greater good of the colony. We would need a queen bee though... Mary Hearney!

chucken1 · 18-08-2011 11:48PM

El Weirdo wrote: »

Exactly. Many councils would slash their housing lists if they enforced the rules on refusing offers of housing, too.

Ive a friend working in Limerick corpo housing section and shes told me stories of people refusing houses. I dont understand that at all.

I was in a caravan with 2 small children for over 5 years(simply because in the 90's,landlords refused to rent to a one parent family..small town Ireland) before I was offered any house and I jumped at the 1st one I was allocated.

Its been home for many years now

My solution to single mothers & social housing ?

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