My solution to single mothers & social housing ?

Rabidlamb

The housing lists are backed up & a lot of pressure is being put on councils.
I've had this solution for sometime now, it's a bit incendiary but this might be the time to roll it out.

Single mothers who don't want to live with their parents & declare the father absent can share a house with another single mother in the same situation.

Before you get all Kevin Myers on my ass think about it, it would cut down on the couples who commit welfare fraud by secretly living with their partner.
It would halve the single mothers on the waiting list in no time & might prove a disincentive to those who still choose it as a lifestyle choice.

Kintarō Hattori

And what if the parents don't want their daughter living with them?

Ricardo G

With all the ghost estates around the country it would be much more acceptable to put families and single mothers IN NEED of a house into these imo

Sunnyisland

Just asking,

Who would decide what single mother lived with what single mother, and as most if not all single mothers are very young who would control the finances as in Bill payments,Rubbish collections etc, cant see it working to be honest.

CreepingDeath

Phase out childrens allowance altogether, so the lower classes can't afford to breed like rats.

earlyevening

What about all the unsold Mercedes cars in the country? We could give them to single mothers too.

Ricardo G

earlyevening wrote: »

What about all the unsold Mercedes cars in the country? We could give them to single mothers too.

No No No ! These should be given to all the Nigerian taxi drivers instead

dublin daz

Sure we might as well just open up the convents / industrial schools. That would reduce the housing list by 100%

While I don't agree with fraud, I think the family, in any form married or unmarried deserve to live with dignity.

mackg

realies wrote: »

Just asking,

Who would decide what single mother lived with what single mother, and as most if not all single mothers are very young who would control the finances as in Bill payments,Rubbish collections etc, cant see it working to be honest.

An e harmony type test to match them up anyway.

galwayrush

earlyevening wrote: »

What about all the unsold Mercedes cars in the country? We could give them to single mothers too.

Great idea, say...
1 kid qualifies them for an A class, 5 kids gets the S class..:pac::pac:

chucken1

Rabidlamb wrote: »

The housing lists are backed up & a lot of pressure is being put on councils.
I've had this solution for sometime now, it's a bit incendiary but this might be the time to roll it out.

Single mothers who don't want to live with their parents & declare the father absent can share a house with another single mother in the same situation.

Before you get all Kevin Myers on my ass think about it, it would cut down on the couples who commit welfare fraud by secretly living with their partner.
It would halve the single mothers on the waiting list in no time & might prove a disincentive to those who still choose it as a lifestyle choice.

In theory,its not a bad idea,but how do the council choose to put in together?
2 of my neighbours(sisters)are single parents in their 30s. They both have boys and are each living in a 2 bed flat. They have begged to be moved in together to a 3 bed house,which would free up 2 flats,but its a big no no.

But you probably wouldnt have a simple solution like that in cities..you cant just throw 2 families together and hope they get on.

I became a single parent at 29 and dont think I couldve shared a house with another family as I never had before.

up for anything

Rabidlamb wrote: »

It would halve the single mothers on the waiting list in no time & might prove a disincentive to those who still choose it as a lifestyle choice.

Are single mothers a different breed to lone parents?

Have you any verifiable statistics on how many choose it as a lifestyle choice and how many are forced into the position?

Mint Sauce

Do we have that many aditional 4 bedroom houses going spare?

earlyevening

We could reduce unemployment significantly by employing cooks, gardeners, chauffers, handymen etc to help these manless single mothers.

; )

Slydice

oh wow, this thread is really going places... :rolleyes:

Rabidlamb

irish-stew wrote: »

Do we have that many aditional 4 bedroom houses going spare?

You don't need additional, that's the beauty of it.

Rabidlamb

realies wrote: »

Just asking,

Who would decide what single mother lived with what single mother, and as most if not all single mothers are very young who would control the finances as in Bill payments,Rubbish collections etc, cant see it working to be honest.

It's their choice whether or not they leave mammy, same as anyone growing up.
Most houses will have an incumbent so let them decide from the 3 candidates near the top of the list.

chucken1

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Phase out childrens allowance altogether, so the lower classes can't afford to breed like rats.

Wow!

mackg

earlyevening wrote: »

We could reduce unemployment significantly by employing cooks, gardeners, chauffers, handymen etc to help these manless single mothers.

; )

Don't forget gigolos, they might be mothers but they still have needs!

El Weirdo

Rent Allowance/Supplement needs to be cut in order to make it more financially feasable for people to take offers of social housing.

At present many families are better off in private rented accommodation with the state paying their rent than they would be in social housing paying (max) ~€75p/w in rent.

chucken1

Rabidlamb wrote: »

It's their choice whether or not they leave mammy, same as anyone growing up.
Most houses will have an incumbent so let them decide from the 3 candidates near the top of the list.

So the mothers you seem to be talking abut are very young??

Im a bit confused....why are you not addressing the problems of older mothers?

Ricardo G

chucken1 wrote: »

So the mothers you seem to be talking abut are very young??

Im a bit confused....why are you not addressing the problems of older mothers?

Its easier to spell MILF

earlyevening

mackg wrote: »

Don't forget gigolos, they might be mothers but they still have needs!

We could move a load of admin HSE staff to the new Dept of Gigilos maybe. Thats another problem solved!

chucken1

El Weirdo wrote: »

Rent Allowance/Supplement needs to be cut in order to make it more financially feasable for people to take offers of social housing.

At present many families are better off in private rented accommodation with the state paying their rent than they would be in social housing paying €75p/w in rent.

Do you know I just discovered that :eek:

We pay 70 a week out of 312 whereas a friend of mine in Dublin is paying 24 a week in a private rental.

Something a bit odd there...

Mint Sauce

Rabidlamb wrote: »

You don't need additional, that's the beauty of it.

Well you all ready have 4 bed room houses being used as social houseing for mothers/parents with a few kids. If you start moving 2 single mothers in together, then you will need additional 4 bed houses. One room for each mother, and each child.

Stained Class

dublin daz wrote: »

Sure we might as well just open up the convents / industrial schools. That would reduce the housing list by 100%

While I don't agree with fraud, I think the family, in any form married or unmarried deserve to live off the state & all hardworking taxpayers.

FYP.


Think about it.

chucken1

Ricardo G wrote: »

Its easier to spell MILF

Ohhhh

El Weirdo

chucken1 wrote: »

Do you know I just discovered that :eek:

We pay 70 a week out of 312 whereas a friend of mine in Dublin is paying 24 a week in a private rental.

Something a bit odd there...

Exactly. Many councils would slash their housing lists if they enforced the rules on refusing offers of housing, too.

Dyr

This is why I like AH, it reminds me that every time a major disaster happens that quite a lot of the casualties probably won't be any great loss to humanity.

Chuck Stone

Pffff you lack imagination OP Sir.

I think we should look to nature.

Consider the humble Honey Bee. Why not build vast appartment blocks where workers look after the grubs.. I mean babies and the women go out working for the greater good of the colony. We would need a queen bee though... Mary Hearney!

chucken1

El Weirdo wrote: »

Exactly. Many councils would slash their housing lists if they enforced the rules on refusing offers of housing, too.

Ive a friend working in Limerick corpo housing section and shes told me stories of people refusing houses. I dont understand that at all.

I was in a caravan with 2 small children for over 5 years(simply because in the 90's,landlords refused to rent to a one parent family..small town Ireland) before I was offered any house and I jumped at the 1st one I was allocated.

Its been home for many years now

earlyevening

We could do what every other country does and just direct them to the nearest abortion factory rather than giving them cash, apartments and free buggies. (?)

mackg

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Pffff you lack imagination OP Sir.

I think we should look to nature.

Consider the humble Honey Bee. Why not build vast appartment blocks where workers look after the grubs.. I mean babies and the women go out working for the greater good of the colony. We would need a queen bee though... Mary Hearney!

I always thought of Mary Harney as more of a jellyfish

Richard Hillman

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Phase out childrens allowance altogether, so the lower classes can't afford to breed like rats.

Fully agree. We need to tackle the Irelands underclass instead of encouraging them by giving them everything for nothing.

Zebra3

I think that all those retired politicans, all such patriots, who are on generous state pensions should have a lone parent and her kid(s) move in with them.

Family off the waiting list.

Patriotic politican continues to serve country.

Taxpayer saves money.

Win, win, win!!!!!

rebecca 30

Mmmm

I am a single mum, 2 kids, have mortgage , feck all support from kids Dad, training to be an accounted , how .ucken dare ye talk about all single mothers like that , we are not all like that . Get over yourself

dsmythy

chucken1 wrote: »

Ive a friend working in Limerick corpo housing section and shes told me stories of people refusing houses. I dont understand that at all.

I was in a caravan with 2 small children for over 5 years(simply because in the 90's,landlords refused to rent to a one parent family..small town Ireland) before I was offered any house and I jumped at the 1st one I was allocated.

Its been home for many years now

You should see some of the houses on offer......

chucken1

rebecca 30 wrote: »

Mmmm

I am a single mum, 2 kids, have mortgage , feck all support from kids Dad, training to be an accounted , how .ucken dare ye talk about all single mothers like that , we are not all like that . Get over yourself

Well said

chucken1

dsmythy wrote: »

You should see some of the houses on offer......

I have

Complaints that theres no downstairs loo seems to be a big one :rolleyes:

up for anything

I think I'll Godwinise the thread and say that in Hitler's Ireland it looks very much like single mothers would be first into the gas chambers. :rolleyes:

CreepingDeath

rebecca 30 wrote: »

I am a single mum, 2 kids, have mortgage , feck all support from kids Dad

Well you choose him, are you not going to take some responsibility for your own choices ?

Stained Class

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Phase out childrens allowance altogether, so the lower classes can't afford to breed like rats.

No way bro!

This is the only way some of us hard working couples with mortgages can pay the bills!

Life in Ireland is fooked up.:mad:

Myself & Mrs Class do everything right, work hard, pay our bills, raise our kids right etc.

Guess what?

We haven't a bean to spend, much less a Euro.

Target Social Welfare for the 'Entitled Ones'.

dark crystal

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Well you choose him, are you not going to take some responsibility for your own choices ?

Seems to me like she's taking all the responsibility and he's taking none.

rebecca 30

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Well you choose him, are you not going to take some responsibility for your own choices ?

Yes I did, I pay my own way in life ,

Monty.

I've rarely seen a so called "single" mother with a council house who doesn’t have their partner living with them on the sly, paying no rent and claiming all the benefits. "Cock Lodgers" I believe they are called.

Stained Class

rebecca 30 wrote: »

Mmmm

I am a single mum, 2 kids, have mortgage , feck all support from kids Dad, training to be an accounted , how .ucken dare ye talk about all single mothers like that , we are not all like that . Get over yourself

Good for you & I admire you're work.

In most cases, though, single mothers raise kids who will be nothing but a problem for other people to deal with & pay for..

Monty.

Ricardo G wrote: »

With all the ghost estates around the country it would be much more acceptable to put families and single mothers IN NEED of a house into these imo

Sounds good, except most of them fail to comply with planning permission and building regulations, and the construction quality is pure sh1te. Leaving the taxpayer to pick up the bill yet again.

chucken1

Monty. wrote: »

I've rarely seen a so called "single" mother with a council house who doesn’t have their partner living with them on the sly, paying no rent and claiming all the benefits. "Cock Lodgers" I believe they are called.

How do you know what they're claiming? Or what rent they pay?

rebecca 30

Monty. wrote: »

I've rarely seen a so called "single" mother with a council house who doesn’t have their partner living with them on the sly, paying no rent and claiming all the benefits. "Cock Lodgers" I believe they are called.

So if your so sure , why not report them, In Ireland people complain about stuff but never report it !!!!!!!! WTF , if your going to come on here and complain and do nothing about it , why fecken bother ????

El Weirdo

Monty. wrote: »

I've rarely seen a so called "single" mother with a council house who doesn’t have their partner living with them on the sly,

I've seen loads of single mothers who don't have their partner living with them on the sly.

But I have also seen many who do.

Monty.

chucken1 wrote: »

How do you know what they're claiming? Or what rent they pay?

Because they enjoy bumming about it in my local.
They pop in there for a few hours when they get bored being paid to sit at home watching sky, and they feel like a change of scene from their state sponsored self catering permanent holiday accommodation.