TV3 Ireland's Biggest Beggars

EarlERizer wrote: »

The Irish who arrived ready for work and set about doing it too! and not without the discriminations they endured and little to no rights .....however,while I dont have the statistics to hand I think you will actually find that the Asian communties are the largest minority (there's a contradiction) in the UK followed closely by Jamacian with the Irish somewhere down in the 'other minorities' pool.



http://www.statistics.gov.uk/pdfdir/meg1202.pdf

Population
• The size of the minority ethnic population was 4.5 million in
2001/02 or 7.6 per cent of the total population of the United
Kingdom. Indians were the largest minority group, followed by
Pakistanis, Black Caribbeans, Black Africans, and those of
Mixed ethnic backgrounds.

Now,there ya go bhoy, lesson learned,do some background reading before making bold statements!

Oh & case you want some proof to back up my bold statement then look up http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/pathways/citizenship/brave_new_world/immigration.htm
particulary the part that reads "Even in the 1970s the Irish remained the largest immigrant community in Britain" now you do some background reading next time..lesson learnt?

EarlERizer wrote: »

Firstly,it's okee dokee :rolleyes:

Now just because you happen to have been born in the UK to Irish parents doesnt make you an expert nor the leading authority on the subject.

There are rough estimates saying there are 6 million UK citizens with approx 25% Irish ancestory , that doesnt make them Irish. There are infact (according to the census report of 2001) 690,000 Irish born residents in the UK or 1.2% of the population.

Here's more reading material for you
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_the_United_Kingdom

Those are actual facts,right!

Again you have presented statistics of ethnic races & not nationalities...
i loathe to use wikipedia to defeat you in this argument but seeing as you have then go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_migration_to_Great_Britain

now look under- History...
it states "Irish people have been the largest minority group in Britain for centuries, regularly migrating across the Irish Sea. "
Now take some of your own good advice & do some research next time.

I feel incredibly conflicted in judging an entire ethnic group but every single one of my experiences with the romani was bad, every first hand account and news story the same, I have never once met a romani working, and given that they are confused with the romanians, who appear to be very proactive when it comes to employment, I don't think discrimination can be blamed for that.

Has anyone ever stood outside the church on the quays just before mass ends? They come forth like a zombie apocalypse and block off the exit from just inside, hounding the elderly as they attempt to leave, it's a disgusting image, pure abuse of those who have a reputation for genuine charity.

My favourite experience of these guys was in Berlin, they were hunting out the obvious foreigners, of which it seems I most definitely am one. Every one of them had the same poorly written, poorly photocopied sheet, with a sob story about their disabled child, what are the odds eh? After a few encounters I started pretending I didn't speak English, they had the story down to a tee in French, Italian and Spanish, not Irish though, standing through the same story, with the same wording 4 times in a row is totally worth it to see the murderous facial expression when you claim to only speak a language they have never even heard of!

Come to think of it I used to have fun with the romani before I just became pissed off with the whole charade, I once lectured one on the dietary requirements of pregnant women for a considerable length of time when she asked me to buy her a coffee, "for the baby", think I might go back to driving them mental...

Less amusing anecdote: B*stard nicked my phone, nabbed it from in front of me whilst pretending to sell the big issue, which it turned out he had beaten the homeless guy who used to sell them outside powerscourt for. He rang home off the phone, I retrieved the number and informed his family he had come to Ireland to be a worthless criminal, they probably knew that already but it felt good to know something had been done as the guards weren't particularly interested in the whereabouts of a cheap little phone.

I have many more but I'm sure everyone has experienced similar, the complete negativity of this thread has to come from somewhere. What do we do with them though? They are extremely persecuted, Hitler tried to wipe them out in his own special way, most of Europe seems to have gone for the lighter approach of kicking them out at one point or another, us kicking them out won't achieve anything and they will be back at some point, how tough could we get on organised begging? Would we be able to operate a strict zero tolerance policy on their actions without it being discrimination? Tightening up social welfare for non nationals would probably do a lot, but you'd have to do it in a way that wouldn't hurt all those who've paid their taxes and have as much right to draw the dole as everyone else that has been laid off.

EarlERizer wrote: »

Pat yourself on the back,I'll give you the victory in your pointless argument as it's 1.50am and I cant be ar$ed to play any longer.

In hindsight I should've originally replied with "whats your point" rather than stringing you along with me stirring your pot.

The point been made was the fact that we (the Irish living here in Ireland) have learnt fook all from watching the mistakes made by our nearest neighbour in regard to uncontrolled mass immigration and the problems that manifest from it.

Surely as an Englishman you can agree with that atleast?

Well seeing as im the offspring of immigrants & am now an immigrant to this country..(but not from England- didnt you know there was more than one country in the UK? ) well im not gonna be too anti-immigrant am i?

My point is that yes there is a culture that exists with romanys that i dont want in this country however im very wary of your argument which
was getting a bit close too "send all foreigners home" territory for my liking

If countries (especially the UK) done that with our (Irish) immigrants them we`d be in a much deeper sh1tehole than we already are in.. immigration works both ways you know..

However the topic here is romanis & i agree that they are one exception to the rule... what we do about it well i dont know ,but as far as im concerned open borders is still a good thing despite these scumbags.

LighterGuy wrote: »

Romanian gypsies are scum. Through and through.
I have worked with regular romanian people and as the op said, they hate them as much as everyone else.


They should be thrown out. Simple as. Create some BS law or ruling (for face) while in reality just getting them out.

same here, i have quite a few Romanian friends and they are great people, the gypsies are trained conditioned criminals, nothing short of it.

oranbhoy67 wrote: »

If countries (especially the UK) done that with our (Irish) immigrants them we`d be in a much deeper sh1tehole than we already are in.. immigration works both ways you know..

big difference, i don't see the Romani actually working and building half the country like the Irish did when they arrived in Britain

Burn them!!!!

This was even by TV3 standards, the laziest, most inane piece of McJournalism of the year. Totally populist, badly researched, badly executed. Who were the security firm that got free advertising for the ****ing camera?

They should all be deported - TV3 'reporters' that is

optogirl wrote: »

I should hope so - you don't get to deport a nationality, especially if they are European citizens and have the right to be here

thats one of the problems with the LISBON treaty - we need to have another referrendum and remove our agreement to it, so we can begin to remove unwanted elements of society and cleanse it with immigrants that are willing to behave within the laws of the state.

Well I have always said that immigrants should be made welcome IF THEY WORK!! I have lived abroad for many years in countries where, if you don't have a job then you can't stay - simple as that! Yes I know the EU says they are entitled to stay here etc etc but some of it is ridiculous. We need to put a stop to it.

There is a family at the end of a road near me - don't know where they are from - the house is in bits - it used to be lovely, garden is full of cats, they have left to go home for the summer (2 months) but they will be back next week to sign on again and claim their child benefit etc etc.

Show last night made me angry, I hate those bastarding ROMA gypsies. Im not racist but they just do not contribute to society.

Why does this have to be pointed out over and over, and over...

try writing it in huge letters.