Gardai acquitted....

0O7 · 2011-07-29 17:24:11

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0729/gaffneyo.html blast away

#362 01-08-2011 01:52PM

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JEINKINS12 wrote: »

The following is from that Annual Report of GSOC
In 2010, GSOC received 2,258 complaints from members of the public, of which 722 were inadmissible. The complaints contained 4,931 allegations of misconduct by gardaí of which 1,087 were deemed inadmissible.

You forgot to mention that many were inadmisable because of being out side the six month time limit,but then please dont let relevant facts or anything bother you :rolleyes:.

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#363 01-08-2011 01:55PM

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archer22 wrote: »

You forgot to mention that many were inadmisable because of being out side the six month time limit,but then please dont let relevant facts or anything bother you :rolleyes:.

So the complainant was so aggrieved by the actions of a Garda/Gardaí that he or she waited over 6 months to complain, i'd take a wild guess that those complaints were just BS

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#364 01-08-2011 01:58PM

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archer22 wrote: »

You forgot to mention that many were inadmisable because of being out side the six month time limit,but then please dont let relevant facts or anything bother you :rolleyes:.

Also from the same report
A referral under section 102 was made by the Garda Commissioner regarding an incident in Clondalkin, Dublin. Gardaí were initially called to deal with a domestic incident [FONT=Calibri,Calibri][FONT=Calibri,Calibri]41
[/FONT][/FONT]involving a male and his ex-partner. The male was intoxicated and was attempting to gain access to his infant daughter. Gardaí attended and the male was arrested for criminal damage and placed in handcuffs. Whilst in handcuffs, the male was attacked by another male at the scene. This second male succeeded in stabbing the handcuffed male with a pen knife. Gardaí present subdued the male carrying the knife using pepper spray and he was disarmed and arrested. Due to the injuries sustained by the male while in Garda care, the incident was referred by the Garda Commissioner to GSOC under section 102(1) of the Act.

So some scrote stabs another scrote and there is a complaint about the Gardaí, brilliant, there is one of the over 4000 'legitimate' complaints

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#365 01-08-2011 02:00PM

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JEINKINS12 wrote: »

So the complainant was so aggrieved by the actions of a Garda/Gardaí that he or she waited over 6 months to complain, i'd take a wild guess that those complaints were just BS

Yep I would say that would be a wild guess alright :cool:.

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#366 01-08-2011 02:04PM

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JEINKINS12 wrote: »

Also from the same report
A referral under section 102 was made by the Garda Commissioner regarding an incident in Clondalkin, Dublin. Gardaí were initially called to deal with a domestic incident [FONT=Calibri,Calibri][FONT=Calibri,Calibri]41 [/FONT]
[/FONT]involving a male and his ex-partner. The male was intoxicated and was attempting to gain access to his infant daughter. Gardaí attended and the male was arrested for criminal damage and placed in handcuffs. Whilst in handcuffs, the male was attacked by another male at the scene. This second male succeeded in stabbing the handcuffed male with a pen knife. Gardaí present subdued the male carrying the knife using pepper spray and he was disarmed and arrested. Due to the injuries sustained by the male while in Garda care, the incident was referred by the Garda Commissioner to GSOC under section 102(1) of the Act.

So some scrote stabs another scrote and there is a complaint about the Gardaí, brilliant, there is one of the over 4000 'legitimate' complaints[/QU and you want us to believe that the other 4930 are in a similar vein

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#367 01-08-2011 02:11PM

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I love this part from the article:

Mr Gaffney who is currently serving a three year sentence for stealing a car which crashed into another car, claimed that the gardaí came to his flat and assaulted him while he was sleeping.

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#368 01-08-2011 02:15PM

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the_syco wrote: »

I love this part from the article:

Yeah, he seems like quite the citizen.

I feel about this case a bit like the way I feel about the death penalty: I'm against it in principle, but I'm really not too bothered when it is carried out on some people.

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#369 01-08-2011 02:15PM

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archer22 wrote: »

Not bothering getting into a pointless argument with you..people can read it and judge for themselves as you are leaving out relevant facts.

Pot calling the kettle black I think.

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#370 01-08-2011 02:49PM

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My name is URL wrote: »

D. The detection rate for robberies atm is less than 25%. A fcuking joke.

where did you get your figures from????
did you just make them up?????
I would have thought it would have being a higher %age but i dont know. If it is < 25% (and you can back this up with a reference), how does this compare to other states?

i tried to look it up but cant find any info... the cso gives figures of robbery but not detection rate

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#371 01-08-2011 05:08PM

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archer22 wrote: »

JEINKINS12 wrote: »

Also from the same report
A referral under section 102 was made by the Garda Commissioner regarding an incident in Clondalkin, Dublin. Gardaí were initially called to deal with a domestic incident [FONT=Calibri,Calibri][FONT=Calibri,Calibri]41 [/FONT]
[/FONT]involving a male and his ex-partner. The male was intoxicated and was attempting to gain access to his infant daughter. Gardaí attended and the male was arrested for criminal damage and placed in handcuffs. Whilst in handcuffs, the male was attacked by another male at the scene. This second male succeeded in stabbing the handcuffed male with a pen knife. Gardaí present subdued the male carrying the knife using pepper spray and he was disarmed and arrested. Due to the injuries sustained by the male while in Garda care, the incident was referred by the Garda Commissioner to GSOC under section 102(1) of the Act.

So some scrote stabs another scrote and there is a complaint about the Gardaí, brilliant, there is one of the over 4000 'legitimate' complaints[/QU and you want us to believe that the other 4930 are in a similar vein

Where did I say I want anyone to believe all the other complaints are in a similar vein? I know there are genuine complaints AND vexatious ones, whereas you seem to believe all complaints are genuine.

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#372 01-08-2011 11:57PM

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Kaiser2000 wrote: »

@My name is URL: Completely agree but then this is AH I guess :rolleyes:

Anyhow, for the rest of ye, here's a post I made wayy back in 2007 in a thread started by someone who was extremely frustrated with the response from our boys n girls in blue (feel free to read on past post 102 too for more info)

Read that and then come back and tell me about our excuse for a police force.

Just to point out, in your link to the 2007 post, the OP was delighted with the Gardaí and the outcome. Not the best thread to highlight our "excuse for a police force"

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#373 02-08-2011 04:02AM

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seniorstaff wrote: »

i think the jury were thinking that this individual with a long list of previous convictions was long overdue a good slapping, for once justice was served , not all this prisoners rights rubbish ,that we are so sick of listening to by the do gooders in our society.

Holy F*CK people like you piss me off. Jesus Christ.
Justice is perscribed by THE LAW. There is NO excuse EVER for EXTRA JUDICIAL PUNISHMENT.

My God, this thread depresses me. How many people out there are the same kind of people who regard prison rape as "part of the deal" when someone goes to jail, rather than a horrific crime which it is?

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#374 02-08-2011 05:43AM

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hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Holy F*CK people like you piss me off. Jesus Christ.
Justice is perscribed by THE LAW. There is NO excuse EVER for EXTRA JUDICIAL PUNISHMENT.

My God, this thread depresses me. How many people out there are the same kind of people who regard prison rape as "part of the deal" when someone goes to jail, rather than a horrific crime which it is?

What about the amount of times a scummer beat an a person and got a suspended sentence? Going by your own very own theory that is OK, since it is within the boundaries of the law. Don't say "we are working on it, it will lead to a better future". All the time the scumbags are walking out of the courtroom grinning.

Common sense prevails in the end, as has been proven in the court. I had to live with these things before in a hostel, and they are savages. Pointing knives at me when I walk into the kitchen "for fun".

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#375 02-08-2011 07:46AM

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if there was a warrent surley there would be a copy of it and im sure the judge would ask to see it so it must have been shown to the judge and the jury otherwise the case im sure would have taken a different twist as the judge would hardly proceed if he dident see a copy of the warrent and would then question the fact why the gardai were in the flat without a warrent

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#376 02-08-2011 07:58AM

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etymon wrote: »

obviously you don't know about Double Jeopardy (yes I am talking about the amazing Ashley Judd epic of 1999)

yes double jeopardy means if someone is aquitted there cant be a retrial of the same case.

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#377 02-08-2011 08:02AM

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usernamegoes wrote: »

He was a scumbag, but still, the Garda shouldn't just be allowed turn up in force and take turns beating someone in bed.

they were aquitted dont forget so they dident do it in the eyes of the law

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#378 02-08-2011 08:10AM

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Seanbeag1 wrote: »

The students were outside the whole time. They didn't see anything that happened inside.

how do you know they were outside were you there?
anyway student gardai have no powers until they are at the very last leg of their training

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#379 02-08-2011 08:18AM

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hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I'm referring to all the people here who are saying "he deserved it".
NO ONE EVER deserves to be treated that way. Regardless fo whether it actually happened, it absolutely sickens me to see people advocating violent assault on any human being.

a sure it's the age ol thing mob rule which just points to the fact that people will lower themselves to the point of acting like animals when it comes to kicking the sh1t out of someone which makes them no better then those they brand as a scummer.

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#380 02-08-2011 08:27AM

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usernamegoes wrote: »

Indeed, but were told by the accused if they mentioned what happened to anyone they would be convicted of being accomplices and lose their jobs and go to jail. So they weren't testifying to the events in the room.

and you have evidence to this how?

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#381 02-08-2011 08:51AM

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0O7 wrote: »

EDIT :
imagine if 4 [Prison officers] go into his I]cell[/I tonight and kick the crap outa him and nobody will believe him.... :P

imagine if that happened and a few gardai with them:eek::eek::eek: o my gawddddd

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#382 02-08-2011 09:38AM

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sonic85 wrote: »

hes getting something in his butt but i doubt its jokes

yea sure maybe he likes it up the ass:D

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#383 02-08-2011 09:57AM

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archer22 wrote: »

Our country has been destroyed with corruption,probably for the next thousand years...corrupt Goverment,corrupt Bankers,corrupt Regulators,corrupt Church etc etc.I would have thought the Irish would be sick of corruption now.But hell no now they are all over the place clamoring and cheerleading for a corrupt police force....No hope for this godforsaken place,time to emigrate to some decent country I think.

you wont find everything perfact no matter where you go iv lived and worked in a few different parts of the world and ya get corruption and and all the same sh1t ya get here everywhere ya go this world is full of sh1t i can tell you

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#384 02-08-2011 10:07AM

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7Sins wrote: »

Yea but he never went to jail

he did he got 18months with 12 months suspended so he will do some time and an automatic suspension from the gardai his life is fcuked baisically.

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#385 02-08-2011 10:14AM

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archer22 wrote: »

or maybe the Garda goon squad visited the jury room to help them come to a decision

it's amazeing the imagination some people have

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#386 02-08-2011 10:24AM

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A jury of our peers have made their decision based on the evidence presented in court, tough sh1te if you don't like it!

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#387 02-08-2011 11:15AM

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vampire of kilmainham wrote: »

if there was a warrent surley there would be a copy of it and im sure the judge would ask to see it so it must have been shown to the judge and the jury otherwise the case im sure would have taken a different twist as the judge would hardly proceed if he dident see a copy of the warrent and would then question the fact why the gardai were in the flat without a warrent

You dont need a warrant to enter a house if you intend arresting a suspect (who you know lives in that house) for an arrestable offence (one which carries 5 years imprisonment or more)...see Section 6(2) Criminal Law Act 1997.

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#388 02-08-2011 11:42AM

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vampire of kilmainham wrote: »

yes double jeopardy means if someone is aquitted there cant be a retrial of the same case.

Yes Double Jeopardy menas that, but thanks to the Criminal Procedure Act 2010, Double Jeopardy no longer applies to certain offences...False Imprisonment being one of them.

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#389 02-08-2011 05:12PM

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vampire of kilmainham wrote: »

if there was a warrent surley there would be a copy of it and im sure the judge would ask to see it so it must have been shown to the judge and the jury otherwise the case im sure would have taken a different twist as the judge would hardly proceed if he dident see a copy of the warrent and would then question the fact why the gardai were in the flat without a warrent

there are situations where gardai can enter buildings / houses without a warrent...

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#390 02-08-2011 07:47PM

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Bosco boy wrote: »

A jury of our peers have made their decision based on the evidence presented in court, tough sh1te if you don't like it!

who's peers though?

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#391 02-08-2011 08:03PM

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end a eknny wrote: »

who's peers though?

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/justice/courtroom/eligibility_and_selection.html

There you go end a kenny. Read up on it.

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