Gardai acquitted....

0O7

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0729/gaffneyo.html


blast away

Samich

Nah.

7Sins

with piss

silly

blasted

J. Marston

0O7 wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0729/gaffneyo.html


blast away

With piss?

Edit: Beaten to it!

usernamegoes

0O7 wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0729/gaffneyo.html


blast away

Very surprised at this verdict. I sat in the Court each day of the trial and I am amazed how the jury came to this verdict.

0O7

usernamegoes wrote: »

Very surprised at this verdict. I sat in the Court each day of the trial and I am amazed how the jury came to this verdict.

alot of people thought they would be found guilty

usernamegoes

0O7 wrote: »

alot of people thought they would be found guilty

Really, was amazing how the jury decided this. All I can see is that the jury decided that the victims deserved it.

Turner

Great news,

Didn't see the news but...

Well at least it's over now, 12 unbiased members of the public who knew the full facts of the case (unlike some armchair prosecutors here) have found the gardai innocent of all charges.

charlemont

usernamegoes wrote: »

Very surprised at this verdict. I sat in the Court each day of the trial and I am amazed how the jury came to this verdict.

Very surprised myself, I did think the False Imprisonment would stick.

Crann na Beatha

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meditraitor

Im more suprised that anyone would think a "gardai -not guilty" headline is news or suprising in any case.......

0O7

Veles wrote: »

"grabs popcorn"
Awaits some good ol' fashioned garda bashing!

the jury MUST HAVE BEEN "in on it..."

pipelaser

The dogs on the street know that they entered his house without a search warrant and beat the f**k out of him. But thankfully, common sense prevailed....

usernamegoes

Chief--- wrote: »

Great news,

Didn't see the news but...

Well at least it's over now, 12 unbiased members of the public who knew the full facts of the case (unlike some armchair prosecutors here) have found the gardai innocent of all charges.

I sat through every day of the trial, albeit I did hear voir dire arguments, but excusing that I still would love to see the reasoning for the jury's verdict.

Testimony was given by student garda that were there who said that they were unhappy with what happened in the Flat.

The accused lied about even being in the flat, they pretended they had a warrant.

Really, not sure what the jury was thinking.

Dempsey

Chief--- wrote: »

Great news,

Didn't see the news but...

Well at least it's over now, 12 unbiased members of the public who knew the full facts of the case (unlike some armchair prosecutors here) have found the gardai innocent of all charges.

Why does it say that several members of the jury were in tears, surely they should be emotionally unaffected by proceedings?

RichieC

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

ejmaztec

A jury of our peers decided the case, so I can't see why anyone would complain about the result, with the exception of the group of people who didn't get what they wanted.

Aldebaran

RT&#201 wrote:

Several members of the jury were also in tears.

Bit weird.

jacool

pipelaser wrote: »

The dogs on the street know that they entered his house without a search warrant and beat the f**k out of him. But thankfully, common sense prevailed....

Lucky then, for the Gardai, that clearly there were no street dogs on the jury!

usernamegoes

ejmaztec wrote: »

A jury of our peers decided the case, so I can't see why anyone would complain about the result, with the exception of the group of people who didn't get what they wanted.

I am not saying that we shouldn't accept the jury's result as valid. I am just amazed and interested at how they came to it. Not one I would have had I been on it.

ectoraige

RTE wrote:

Several members of the jury were also in tears.

I haven't heard of jurors crying at a verdict before, does this happen much, and if so, does it usually go unreported?

Arnold Layne

usernamegoes wrote: »

Really, not sure what the jury was thinking.

Probaly thinking about being stopped on a frequent basis for car insurance, speeding, lights not in perfect working order, etc. And not a hope of any response should a serious crime happen to them.

grizzly

Fantastic result. I hope this sets a firm legal precedent for future house to house beatings of scumbags.

entropi

And the Gardaí wonder why they are hated so much:rolleyes:

I was told about this the day it happened, by someone who knows the lad that got the shit kicked out of him in the flat. It grinds my gears knowing that the supposed upholders of the law get away with brutality yet again, and the jury having an emotional response to any part of the trial should render the verdict null and void no?

I can see a re-trial happening in this case, hopefully justice will be served unlike today.

ejmaztec

usernamegoes wrote: »

I sat through every day of the trial, albeit I did hear voir dire arguments, but excusing that I still would love to see the reasoning for the jury's verdict.

Testimony was given by student garda that were there who said that they were unhappy with what happened in the Flat.

The accused lied about even being in the flat, they pretended they had a warrant.

Really, not sure what the jury was thinking.

I wonder what the promotion prospects are in this case?

usernamegoes wrote: »

I am not saying that we shouldn't accept the jury's result as valid. I am just amazed and interested at how they came to it. Not one I would have had I been on it.

Weren't they directed by the judge before they were sent out to reach their decision? I haven't a clue obviously, as I wasn't there. No doubt they'll be a full report in the media spilling the beans.

Arnold Layne

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvJiYrRcfQo

usernamegoes

ejmaztec wrote: »

I wonder what the promotion prospects are in this case?

Indeed. Although, the accuseds' Sargent, gave evidence that she had no knowledge of why they went to the Flat and was annoyed when she was lied to when asked if they were there.

Weren't they directed by the judge before they were sent out to reach their decision? I haven't a clue obviously, as I wasn't there. No doubt they'll be a full report in the media spilling the beans.

Yeah, they were charged with fact finding decision and had stuff explained but how they used the fact to sustain this verdict is what I am amazed at.

etymon

Master of Nothing wrote: »

I can see a re-trial happening in this case, hopefully justice will be served unlike today.

obviously you don't know about Double Jeopardy (yes I am talking about the amazing Ashley Judd epic of 1999)

7Sins

Master of Nothing wrote: »

And the Gardaí wonder why they are hated so much:rolleyes:

I was told about this the day it happened, by someone who knows the lad that got the shit kicked out of him in the flat. It grinds my gears knowing that the supposed upholders of the law get away with brutality yet again, and the jury having an emotional response to any part of the trial should render the verdict null and void no?

I can see a re-trial happening in this case, hopefully justice will be served unlike today.

Yea but in fairness, he deserved it

usernamegoes

etymon wrote: »

obviously you don't know about Double Jeopardy (yes I am talking about the amazing Ashley Judd epic of 1999)

What is the rule about being tried twice for the same crime

Einhard

usernamegoes wrote: »

Really, was amazing how the jury decided this. All I can see is that the jury decided that the victims deserved it.

Yup, seems that as long as the Garda believe someone deserves a beating, then there's no problem with them administering one...

Venom

Dempsey wrote: »

Why does it say that several members of the jury were in tears, surely they should be emotionally unaffected by proceedings?

The members of the jury crying seems very strange to me for a case such as this.

usernamegoes

7Sins wrote: »

Yea but in fairness, he deserved it

He was a scumbag, but still, the Garda shouldn't just be allowed turn up in force and take turns beating someone in bed.

etymon

usernamegoes wrote: »

He was a scumbag, but still, the Garda shouldn't just be allowed turn up in force and take turns beating someone in bed.

and his ma didn't deserve it, even if she did rare a scummer

King of Kings

the gardai deserved to be done with incompetance for not beating him more.

Bosco boy

If it's any consolation they are guilty on boards.ie where all is perfect and the cream of society pass judgement behind closed doors and pulled curtains. The jury were 12 of your own, they weren't gardai. Pass judgement when you know the facts of the case, hold back on your predjuices in the meantime!

7Sins

usernamegoes wrote: »

He was a scumbag, but still, the Garda shouldn't just be allowed turn up in force and take turns beating someone in bed.

Ah yea but in fairness, he deserved it.

Magic Beans

RichieC wrote: »

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Nemo.

Richard tea

It reminds me of the OJ Simpson case. We know they are guilty but they get away with it.

Ps. the little scummer more than likely deserved it:)

hatrickpatrick

7Sins wrote: »

Yea but in fairness, he deserved it

This is the problem with people in this country.
No one "deserves" it. No one. It isn't mandated by the law, it is a wholly inexcusable and impossible to justify act. The Gardai have no right whatsoever to do anything like this to ANY member of the public, for ANY reason. EVER.

0O7

Richard tea wrote: »

It reminds me of the OJ Simpson case. We know they are guilty but they get away with it.

or the case where the scumbag knocked down the garda in donegal and got away it with????

Einhard

Bosco boy wrote: »

If it's any consolation they are guilty on boards.ie where all is perfect and the cream of society pass judgement behind closed doors and pulled curtains. The jury were 12 of your own, they weren't gardai. Pass judgement when you know the facts of the case, hold back on your predjuices in the meantime!

Aren't you a member of the Garda? Not exactly objective in your analysis I'd warrant...

I mightn't have been in the Court Room, but I've kept myself up to date on proceedings on the case, and I think it's simply a matter of the jury deciding that they didn't want to ruin the careers (and lives) of the Gardai involved with a conviction. The fact that member sof the jury were in tears (WTF??) is, I think, testiment to this. The fact that people who were present at the trial were equally surprised at the verdict butresses my own opinion.

I respect the gardai, and think they get an awful lot of undeserved sh!t from people, but I don't think this case serves justice in this state.

Oh and by the way, if you don't want people to "pass judgement behind closed doors", then maybe you should stay clear of boards, and other, you know, discussion fora? Just a suggestion...

Einhard

Magic Beans wrote: »

Nemo.

Take it to the Pixar forum!!:D

MagicSean

usernamegoes wrote: »

I sat through every day of the trial, albeit I did hear voir dire arguments, but excusing that I still would love to see the reasoning for the jury's verdict.

Testimony was given by student garda that were there who said that they were unhappy with what happened in the Flat.

The accused lied about even being in the flat, they pretended they had a warrant.

Really, not sure what the jury was thinking.

In all fairness, student Gardaí know very little about how things should be done.

Richard tea

0O7 wrote: »

or the case where the scumbag knocked down the garda in donegal and got away it with????

Not aware of the case but I agree. sometimes scumbags get away with crime as do some members of the force

hatrickpatrick

Seanbeag1 wrote: »

In all fairness, student Gardaí know very little about how things should be done.

Surely to God anyone knows that beating the sh*t out of someone while restraining others from helping them is ALWAYS wrong?

7Sins

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

This is the problem with people in this country.
No one "deserves" it. No one. It isn't mandated by the law, it is a wholly inexcusable and impossible to justify act. The Gardai have no right whatsoever to do anything like this to ANY member of the public, for ANY reason. EVER.

I don't want to appear like an "uncool" cat now by not bashing the gardai but if they were found not guilty by a jury, doesn't that mean they were innocent and that the little scobie sh*t was lying :pac:

MagicSean

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Surely to God anyone knows that beating the sh*t out of someone while restraining others from helping them is ALWAYS wrong?

The students were outside the whole time. They didn't see anything that happened inside.

0O7

Richard tea wrote: »

Not aware of the case but I agree.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0204/mccallionr.html

also the drunk driver in co limerick who killed the fireman ad garda....not guilty.

maybe its more a problem with court system than with the people tried

hatrickpatrick

7Sins wrote: »

I don't want to appear like an "uncool" cat now by not bashing the gardai but if they were found not guilty by a jury, doesn't that mean they were innocent and that the little scobie sh*t was lying :pac:

I'm referring to all the people here who are saying "he deserved it".
NO ONE EVER deserves to be treated that way. Regardless fo whether it actually happened, it absolutely sickens me to see people advocating violent assault on any human being.