Cork v Mayo All Ireland Quarter Final - Discussion

glic71rods46t0 · 24-07-2011 8:49pm #1

Ok, everyone is predicting an easy win for Cork in this one.
I think that Mayo will be stiffer opposition than they are being given credit for.
Leaving the London game to one side, the Galway and Roscommon games were played in terrible conditions which didnt allow for pretty football. Mayo are really an unknown quantity (in good weather) and I think that James Horan is proving to be quite a good tactican.
While I expect Cork to win, I think Mayo will make them work for it and go down fighting.

Padkir · 24-07-2011 9:17pm

lv4rwcog5yfmh0 wrote: »

Ok, everyone is predicting an easy win for Cork in this one.
I think that Mayo will be stiffer opposition than they are being given credit for.
Leaving the London game to one side, the Galway and Roscommon games were played in terrible conditions which didnt allow for pretty football. Mayo are really an unknown quantity (in good weather) and I think that James Horan is proving to be quite a good tactican.
While I expect Cork to win, I think Mayo will make them work for it and go down fighting.

Aye, I agree there!! But let's just hope Cork are buying into the hype that's surrounding this forum at the minute...!!;)

ShamoBuc · 24-07-2011 9:28pm

Not too many people will be putting their money on a Mayo win and rightly so. Cork should invariably win this match, not too many people would disagree with this.
By how much is of course open to debate. If Cork 'turn up' like they did last night they should win by in excess of 10pts. If they take it for granted they could get caught out if Mayo play well. But I cannot see anything other than a reasonably comfortable win for Cork.

glic71rods46t0 · 24-07-2011 9:39pm

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Not too many people will be putting their money on a Mayo win and rightly so. Cork should invariably win this match, not too many people would disagree with this.
By how much is of course open to debate. If Cork 'turn up' like they did last night they should win by in excess of 10pts. If they take it for granted they could get caught out if Mayo play well. But I cannot see anything other than a reasonably comfortable win for Cork.

Now thats nothing short of complete arrogance that Cork are famous for.
I remember talking to Cork supporters in Croker before the Kerry v Cork All Ireland and every Cork fan I met was cocksure of winning the game. Even Kerry people (who have a right to be cocky in such matters) dont hold a candle to the typical Cork supporters I meet.

Keep thinking 10 pt win - rest some of the better lads for the Kerry game - emm I'm liking this, Mayo might even win it!

BERBA · 24-07-2011 9:42pm

lv4rwcog5yfmh0 wrote: »

Now thats nothing short of complete arrogance that Cork are famous for.
I remember talking to Cork supporters in Croker before the Kerry v Cork All Ireland and every Cork fan I met was cocksure of winning the game. Even Kerry people (who have a right to be cocky in such matters) dont hold a candle to the typical Cork supporters I meet.

Keep thinking 10 pt win - rest some of the better lads for the Kerry game - emm I'm liking this, Mayo might even win it!

Cork will beat mayo handy , bring on the kingdom

ShamoBuc · 24-07-2011 9:45pm

lv4rwcog5yfmh0 wrote: »

Now thats nothing short of complete arrogance that Cork are famous for.
I remember talking to Cork supporters in Croker before the Kerry v Cork All Ireland and every Cork fan I met was cocksure of winning the game. Even Kerry people (who have a right to be cocky in such matters) dont hold a candle to the typical Cork supporters I meet.

Keep thinking 10 pt win - rest some of the better lads for the Kerry game - emm I'm liking this, Mayo might even win it!

I rate Down as a better team than Mayo. If Cork play against Mayo in a similar manner like they did last night I fully expect a Cork win by more than 10 points - do you think Mayo are that far ahead of Down?

Obviously no one knows how each team will play on the day but Cork are equally capable of turning up and playing like they did in the first half against Kerry a few weeks ago. That said Mayo could produce a performace like the one away to London - it's all relative.

glic71rods46t0 · 24-07-2011 9:46pm

BERBA wrote: »

Cork will beat mayo handy , bring on the kingdom

Too right - The real debate is on what players can be rested for the real game against Kerry:rolleyes:

glic71rods46t0 · 24-07-2011 9:55pm

ShamoBuc wrote: »

I rate Down as a better team than Mayo. If Cork play against Mayo in a similar manner like they did last night I fully expect a Cork win by more than 10 points - do you think Mayo are that far ahead of Down?

Obviously no one knows how each team will play on the day but Cork are equally capable of turning up and playing like they did in the first half against Kerry a few weeks ago. That said Mayo could produce a performace like the one away to London - it's all relative.

Indeed it is all relative. Mayo are provincial champions and Down are a shadow of the 2010 team so it is fair to say that I rate Mayo well ahead of Down in 2011
Mayo don't look like world beaters, and as a Mayoman I am just happy to get back to Croke Park but talk of 10 point win is just disrespectful. Glad u mentioned the 1st half of the Kerry game - Cork looked ordinary enough then

eigrod · 24-07-2011 9:55pm

lv4rwcog5yfmh0 wrote: »

I remember talking to Cork supporters in Croker before the Kerry v Cork All Ireland and every Cork fan I met was cocksure of winning the game.

I find that very hard to believe, or at best, I think you must've met those Cork "supporters" who only travel for the final (of which there are many).

In 30 years going to Cork games, I have never ever felt cocksure of beating Kerry, and any supporters I know are in the same boat. In fact it's quite the opposite, we're so sick of losing to them, we only ever travel in hope when playing Kerry, particularly in Croke Park.

Also, I didn't think Shamobuc's comment was arrogant. He/she was right.....if Cork play like they did yesterday, they will beat Mayo. Remember, only Kerry have beaten Cork in Championship football in the last 7 years.

unknown13 · 24-07-2011 9:56pm

Cork are going to demolish Mayo. They are a much better team and are going to win by a comfortable margin.

glic71rods46t0 · 24-07-2011 10:01pm

eigrod wrote: »

I find that very hard to believe, or at best, I think you must've met those Cork "supporters" who only travel for the final (of which there are many).

In 30 years going to Cork games, I have never ever felt cocksure of beating Kerry, and any supporters I know are in the same boat. In fact it's quite the opposite, we're so sick of losing to them, we only ever travel in hope when playing Kerry, particularly in Croke Park.

Also, I didn't think Shamobuc's comment was arrogant. He/she was right.....if Cork play like they did yesterday, they will beat Mayo. Remember, only Kerry have beaten Cork in Championship football in the last 7 years.

I'm not expecting Mayo to win and I fully respect Cork but loose talk of 10+ pt win is arrogant. As I said earlier, I expect Mayo to make a game of it and hoprfully be still in with a shout with 10 minutes to go.

I stand by what I said about the Cork fans I have met. Your experiences, obviously, differ from mine.

eigrod · 24-07-2011 10:03pm

lv4rwcog5yfmh0 wrote: »

Glad u mentioned the 1st half of the Kerry game - Cork looked ordinary enough then

So, you asked us to leave aside Mayo's performance in London, but you want Cork's 1st half performance against Kerry to be considered ?

The vast majority will go for an easy Cork win. Conor Counihan will be working on the team to ensure that complacency doesn't set in.

I predict an easy Cork win, but this is sport and surprises happen...otherwise nobody would bother travelling to the game.

Orizio · 24-07-2011 10:04pm

Have to agree with Fencer, Mayo by ten and Kerry people are the greatest in the world.

ShamoBuc · 24-07-2011 10:06pm

Orizio wrote: »

Have to agree with Fencer, Mayo by ten and Kerry people are the greatest in the world.

You enlighten us all;)

glic71rods46t0 · 24-07-2011 10:12pm

unknown13 wrote: »

Cork are going to demolish Mayo. They are a much better team and are going to win by a comfortable margin.

why waste your crystal ball on trivial matters, the lotto numbers is what u should be using it for;)

ShamoBuc · 24-07-2011 10:14pm

lv4rwcog5yfmh0 wrote: »

Indeed it is all relative. Mayo are provincial champions and Down are a shadow of the 2010 team so it is fair to say that I rate Mayo well ahead of Down in 2011
Mayo don't look like world beaters, and as a Mayoman I am just happy to get back to Croke Park but talk of 10 point win is just disrespectful. Glad u mentioned the 1st half of the Kerry game - Cork looked ordinary enough then

Fair enough. But if it were Down V Mayo my money would be on Down, make no mistake about it. You might take that to be disrespectful but it's not meant to be. I thought Cork would beat Down by about 5 or 6 pts to be honest. They beat them by double that.
The way I see it, if both teams play to their potential Cork will win - I've no doubt about that. If Mayo put in a particularly Croke Park esque performace then it will be interesting how much will be between the teams at the final whistle.
If you had to put all your money on a bet on what team would win and by how much - honestly - what would be your preferred bet? Just out of curiosity?

glic71rods46t0 · 24-07-2011 10:20pm

eigrod wrote: »

So, you asked us to leave aside Mayo's performance in London, but you want Cork's 1st half performance against Kerry to be considered ?

The vast majority will go for an easy Cork win. Conor Counihan will be working on the team to ensure that complacency doesn't set in.

I predict an easy Cork win, but this is sport and surprises happen...otherwise nobody would bother travelling to the game.

I only asked to leave aside the London game when making the point about the weather being the biggest factor in Mayo's championship so far. I wasnt looking for the London game to be set aside altogether. The London game was our first championship game and we have moved on a bit from that.

BERBA · 24-07-2011 10:25pm

lv4rwcog5yfmh0 wrote: »

I only asked to leave aside the London game when making the point about the weather being the biggest factor in Mayo's championship so far. I wasnt looking for the London game to be set aside altogether. The London game was our first championship game and we have moved on a bit from that.

ye'll need to move on a fair bit the next day to avoid an unmerciful hiding;)

glic71rods46t0 · 24-07-2011 10:25pm

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Fair enough. But if it were Down V Mayo my money would be on Down, make no mistake about it. You might take that to be disrespectful but it's not meant to be. I thought Cork would beat Down by about 5 or 6 pts to be honest. They beat them by double that.
The way I see it, if both teams play to their potential Cork will win - I've no doubt about that. If Mayo put in a particularly Croke Park esque performace then it will be interesting how much will be between the teams at the final whistle.
If you had to put all your money on a bet on what team would win and by how much - honestly - what would be your preferred bet? Just out of curiosity?

To answer your hypothetical scenario of having to bet my life savings I would bet Cork by two but, in the real world I will put a small sum (€20) on Mayo in the handicap if the odds reflect the sentiments being expressed here.
I dont think its disrespectful to expect to win but 10 points?

irishh_bob · 24-07-2011 10:27pm

lv4rwcog5yfmh0 wrote: »

Now thats nothing short of complete arrogance that Cork are famous for.
I remember talking to Cork supporters in Croker before the Kerry v Cork All Ireland and every Cork fan I met was cocksure of winning the game. Even Kerry people (who have a right to be cocky in such matters) dont hold a candle to the typical Cork supporters I meet.

Keep thinking 10 pt win - rest some of the better lads for the Kerry game - emm I'm liking this, Mayo might even win it!

give me cork cockiness over kerry cuteness anyday

glic71rods46t0 · 24-07-2011 10:38pm

BERBA wrote: »

ye'll need to move on a fair bit the next day to avoid an unmerciful hiding;)

Yes, we will need to improve, we know this. How will Cork prepare for this, given that a 10 pt thumping is in the bag?

BERBA · 24-07-2011 10:40pm

lv4rwcog5yfmh0 wrote: »

Yes, we will need to improve, we know this. How will Cork prepare for this, given that a 10 pt thumping is in the bag?

Cork in no win situation for this game , key for Cork is to avoid more injuries for the showdown with Kerry

ShamoBuc · 24-07-2011 10:41pm

lv4rwcog5yfmh0 wrote: »

To answer your hypothetical scenario of having to bet my life savings I would bet Cork by two but, in the real world I will put a small sum (€20) on Mayo in the handicap if the odds reflect the sentiments being expressed here.
I dont think its disrespectful to expect to win but 10 points?

Well obviously it's hypothetical, what else would it be?
I reckon you would get fairly good odds for Mayo minus 3 or 4 points - I wouldn't go there myself but work away.
If I had to put big money on a bet I would go Cork obviously. By how much would depend on the odds. I would imagine the odds would be fairly poor for a Cork win minus a couple of points.

If kerry play like they did in the first half ( against Cork ) I would expect a win by more than 10 points against Limerick - that's not being disrespectul to Limerick, in my honest opinion, it's simply being realistic. I would love for Limerick to beat Kerry, but I just cannot see it happening - in Croke Park especially. They could of course push Kerry all the way and I think they will give it a right lash, but will come up short in the end.

I think that there is alot of similarities between those two games and would expect a Cork and Kerry win by similar margins.

Flukey · 24-07-2011 10:45pm

Cork are a bogey team for Mayo going years back. I don't expect any change in that this year.

ShamoBuc · 24-07-2011 10:46pm

lv4rwcog5yfmh0 wrote: »

Yes, we will need to improve, we know this. How will Cork prepare for this, given that a 10 pt thumping is in the bag?

Hardly in the bag. But if they perform like they did last night I can see that happening.
The problem will of course be complacency and not performing like ( as I have mentioned) the first half of the Kerry game. But then again if we performed like we did in the second half of that game we should win.
Mayo don't have too many fond memories of Croke Park - that might change.....or stay the same...time will tell.

glic71rods46t0 · 24-07-2011 10:52pm

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Hardly in the bag. But if they perform like they did last night I can see that happening.
The problem will of course be complacency and not performing like ( as I have mentioned) the first half of the Kerry game. But then again if we performed like we did in the second half of that game we should win.
Mayo don't have too many fond memories of Croke Park - that might change.....or stay the same...time will tell.

Croke Park has many happy memories for me when you exclude the AI finals. Our 2004 win over reigning champions Tyrone and our 2006 semi final win over Dublin being particularly notable.
I am hoping for Mayo to give a good account for themselves and keep the scoreline respectable

Lapin · 24-07-2011 10:53pm

As a Galwayman, I have no great love for Mayo football.

But having read some of the cocky Cork rubbish
here I genuinely hope Mayo go on to beat Cork.

Up the West.

BERBA · 24-07-2011 10:55pm

Lapin wrote: »

As a Galwayman, I have no great love for Mayo football.

But having read some of the cocky Cork rubbish
here I genuinely hope Mayo go on to beat Cork.

Up the West.

bit sore after thumping ye got today Lappin:D

glic71rods46t0 · 24-07-2011 10:55pm

Flukey wrote: »

Cork are a bogey team for Mayo going years back. I don't expect any change in that this year.

thats horse manure - this is a new Mayo team and past performances by previous Mayo teams will not decide this game

WesternZulu · 24-07-2011 10:55pm

My big fear going into the quarter finals was getting Cork because I fear they have the potential to give this very young and inexperienced Mayo team a hammering.

All Mayo need is to put in a performance in Croke Park this year to round off a reasonably successful 1st season in charge for James Horan.

The ritual sacrifice of a Mayo in Croker like the one in the 2010 league Final would undo any good work this year.

That is my big fear!

rossie1977 · 24-07-2011 10:56pm

roscommon held mayos full forward line scoreless from play, in fact mayos starting 15 only scored 2 points from play last sunday, they lost every battle but on the scoreboard, roscommon had more chances, more possession, they won more ball at midfield, more wides

would like to see mayo win but can't see it

Syferus · 24-07-2011 10:57pm

lv4rwcog5yfmh0 wrote: »

Ok, everyone is predicting an easy win for Cork in this one.
I think that Mayo will be stiffer opposition than they are being given credit for.
Leaving the London game to one side, the Galway and Roscommon games were played in terrible conditions which didnt allow for pretty football. Mayo are really an unknown quantity (in good weather) and I think that James Horan is proving to be quite a good tactican.
While I expect Cork to win, I think Mayo will make them work for it and go down fighting.

I'd be worried about how Mayo cope in the last 10-15 as Cork have a real habit of sticking the gloss on games near the end. As with any underdog, a good start will go a long way.

Lapin · 24-07-2011 10:59pm

BERBA wrote: »

bit sore after thumping ye got today Lapin:D

Yes.

But I still have happy memories of thumping Cork only 2 weeks ago.

PennyLane88 · 24-07-2011 11:05pm

Lapin wrote: »

Yes.

But I still have happy memories of thumping Cork only 2 weeks ago.

I fancy Cork winning it, no offence but as a Galwegian i will say that Connaught football is dreadful, real cringe-worthy to watch. The connaught final (i know the weather was shocking), was very poor, if this is the best we have in the west, then god help us.

So it'll be the rebels for me.

Syferus · 24-07-2011 11:09pm

PennyLane88 wrote: »

I fancy Cork winning it, no offence but as a Galwegian i will say that Connaught football is dreadful, real cringe-worthy to watch. The connaught final (i know the weather was shocking), was very poor, if this is the best we have in the west, then god help us.

So it'll be the rebels for me.

Sigh. We have enough critics outside of the province without people turning on their own. Let's see how Roscommon and Mayo perform next weekend before we write the story of Connacht football this year.

ShamoBuc · 24-07-2011 11:13pm

lv4rwcog5yfmh0 wrote: »

Croke Park has many happy memories for me when you exclude the AI finals. Our 2004 win over reigning champions Tyrone and our 2006 semi final win over Dublin being particularly notable.
I am hoping for Mayo to give a good account for themselves and keep the scoreline respectable

So by Mayo giving a good account of themselves you think that would be losing but keeping the scoreline respectable. So if Mayo do not give a good account of themselves I presume you think the scoreline will not be respectable i.e. a hammering.
I think if Cork play well they will win by ten or more points. If they don't play well they should still win but by a couple of points.

Cork could of course lose. Mayo could blow Cork out of the water or win by a point.
After the game has been played you can re read the thread again and see that some posters were right and some were wrong. That's always going to happen. I could be wrong or proven right, so could you.
I hope both Cork and Mayo give a good account of themselves and that the better team on the day wins - by whatever margin!

Fowler87 · 25-07-2011 12:19am

ShamoBuc wrote: »

So by Mayo giving a good account of themselves you think that would be losing but keeping the scoreline respectable. So if Mayo do not give a good account of themselves I presume you think the scoreline will not be respectable i.e. a hammering.
I think if Cork play well they will win by ten or more points. If they don't play well they should still win but by a couple of points.

Cork could of course lose. Mayo could blow Cork out of the water or win by a point.
After the game has been played you can re read the thread again and see that some posters were right and some were wrong. That's always going to happen. I could be wrong or proven right, so could you.
I hope both Cork and Mayo give a good account of themselves and that the better team on the day wins - by whatever margin!

Agree here, the only way Mayo are gonna beat Cork is by putting similar performance to 04 against Tyrone and Dublin 06. However, a certain McDonald played and a stronger Mayo full back were in position back then. But I do expect a better performance than last years league final and ya never know:pac: But yeah Cork should punish Mayos' inexperienced and light weight full back line..

Fr Tod Umptious · 25-07-2011 12:25am

WesternZulu wrote: »

My big fear going into the quarter finals was getting Cork because I fear they have the potential to give this very young and inexperienced Mayo team a hammering.

All Mayo need is to put in a performance in Croke Park this year to round off a reasonably successful 1st season in charge for James Horan.

The ritual sacrifice of a Mayo in Croker like the one in the 2010 league Final would undo any good work this year.

That is my big fear!

My feelings exactly.
It is the worst possible draw for Mayo and I fear that this young and improving could end the year with an absolute hammering that could set the good work back a bit.
Remember this team already as a number of players who have lost senior and minor All Ireland finals.

I have a feeling it will end up like the 2005 Mayo v Kerry 1/4 final, where Mayo lost by 3 points but at no time looked like they would ever win the game.

teednab-el · 25-07-2011 12:59am

A Mayo upset on the cards

padd b1975 · 25-07-2011 9:32am

rossie1977 wrote: »

roscommon held mayos full forward line scoreless from play, in fact mayos starting 15 only scored 2 points from play last sunday, they lost every battle but on the scoreboard, roscommon had more chances, more possession, they won more ball at midfield, more wides

would like to see mayo win but can't see it

Its the scoreboard at the final whistle that matters! Who cares where the scores
come from as long as they do? Now run along and wipe up that spilt milk! Good man.

homerjay2005 · 25-07-2011 10:27am

mayo will need a huge effort here to pull this off, unless injuries cost cork.

whats the story with Goulding, is he defo out?

cork are 10 points better on paper than mayo if not more, but stranger things have happened, look at waterford yesterday.

ShamoBuc · 25-07-2011 10:40am

homerjay2005 wrote: »

mayo will need a huge effort here to pull this off, unless injuries cost cork.

whats the story with Goulding, is he defo out?

cork are 10 points better on paper than mayo if not more, but stranger things have happened, look at waterford yesterday.

Apparently Counihan has said Goulding should be ok - hopefully that is true.
The Waterford game certainly could be used as a wake up call alright - if needed.

Niall M · 25-07-2011 10:53am

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Apparently Counihan has said Goulding should be ok - hopefully that is true.
The Waterford game certainly could be used as a wake up call alright - if needed.

Wouldnt believe anything from Counihan, he always picks a team and never plays it then, that bugs me. Canty and Jamie O Sullivan picked to start, yet Cadogan and Cotter start. Why bother?

JFlah · 25-07-2011 11:33am

As a proud Kerry man , unfortunately i can only see a very comfortable Cork victory , hopefully Mayo are capable of 1 decent performance and attain respectability but i would genuinely fear for them. If Roscommon had won the Connaught final what sort of prediction would people be making??

While it appears Cork have a mental problem with us(Kerry) they came very close to winning a Munster final that they only played in for 15/20 minutes and if and when they put a longer performance together i don,t think anyone will live with them Kerry included , despite the Munster victory we still have problems and would fear for us when our midfield and half back line is put under pressure for an entire game .

Back to Cork/Mayo while i would hope for a copmpetetive game with Cork winning by 3/4 points i can see the last 15 minutes going really badly for Mayo and have to take Cork by 8-10 and in a bad case scenario possibly much more!!!

ShamoBuc · 25-07-2011 11:59am

JFlah wrote: »

As a proud Kerry man , unfortunately i can only see a very comfortable Cork victory , hopefully Mayo are capable of 1 decent performance and attain respectability but i would genuinely fear for them. If Roscommon had won the Connaught final what sort of prediction would people be making??

While it appears Cork have a mental problem with us(Kerry) they came very close to winning a Munster final that they only played in for 15/20 minutes and if and when they put a longer performance together i don,t think anyone will live with them Kerry included , despite the Munster victory we still have problems and would fear for us when our midfield and half back line is put under pressure for an entire game .

Back to Cork/Mayo while i would hope for a copmpetetive game with Cork winning by 3/4 points i can see the last 15 minutes going really badly for Mayo and have to take Cork by 8-10 and in a bad case scenario possibly much more!!!

If it was Cork V Roscommon I would think it would be a closer game. This is kinda contradictory of course as Mayo beat Roscommon but I do think Roscommon are the better team. I think Cork are currently a better team than Kerry - although Kerry beat us a few weeks ago. I saw enough in that game to be confident going into a semi against Kerry - if results go as planned. There won't be much in it in any Cork V Kerry match at the moment, but I think of the teams left in the championship, Cork have the best capabilities of beating Kerry in Croke Park this year - despite their recent record there against Kerry. Again, only time will tell.

yop · 25-07-2011 12:05pm

I don't expect a win from us, but we have seen a lot of under par performance from players who have done very well for us over the last few years.
Add to that the hope it won't be pi**n it down and we might finally see a performance from Mayo.
No pressure on Mayo then who knows.

Having loads of possession and kicking a bag loads of wides doesn't make you the better team.

Balmed Out · 25-07-2011 12:10pm

I wouldnt be too cocky about the match. Mayo havent been performing but they have absolutely no pressure and are playing a team which when they play well I reckon are the best in Ireland but they are also a team who are well capable of playing woefully bad on any given day.

JFlah · 25-07-2011 12:13pm

ShamoBuc wrote: »

If it was Cork V Roscommon I would think it would be a closer game. This is kinda contradictory of course as Mayo beat Roscommon but I do think Roscommon are the better team. I think Cork are currently a better team than Kerry - although Kerry beat us a few weeks ago. I saw enough in that game to be confident going into a semi against Kerry - if results go as planned. There won't be much in it in any Cork V Kerry match at the moment, but I think of the teams left in the championship, Cork have the best capabilities of beating Kerry in Croke Park this year - despite their recent record there against Kerry. Again, only time will tell.

I.d have to agree that Cork are a better team than us , despite the denial by most Kerry people , our brilliant frowards are glossing over an awful lot of stuff and i really fear we are a car crash waiting to happen , come the dy when some of those forwards are held slightly or underperform then god help us , our midfield and half back line scares me genuinely particularly Half back line A o mahoney in my opinion is but a shadow of what he once was and in a tight competetive game .............. scary , same with E Brosnan firstly never was is or will be a defender and was more or less deeemed past it a couple of years ago so how he is starting out of position currently baffles me when he is called upon to primarily defend against a decent attacking centre forward i fear will be found out too , that said fascinating few weeks coming up ... Bring it on btw donegal to sneak into the final !!!

ShamoBuc · 25-07-2011 12:14pm

Balmed Out wrote: »

I wouldnt be too cocky about the match. Mayo havent been performing but they have absolutely no pressure and are playing a team which when they play well I reckon are the best in Ireland but they are also a team who are well capable of playing woefully bad on any given day.

That is very true and is one of the annoying thing about following this particular Cork team in recent years. But we'll struggle on anyway;)

Fr Tod Umptious · 25-07-2011 12:14pm

ShamoBuc wrote: »

If it was Cork V Roscommon I would think it would be a closer game. This is kinda contradictory of course as Mayo beat Roscommon but I do think Roscommon are the better team. I think Cork are currently a better team than Kerry - although Kerry beat us a few weeks ago. I saw enough in that game to be confident going into a semi against Kerry - if results go as planned. There won't be much in it in any Cork V Kerry match at the moment, but I think of the teams left in the championship, Cork have the best capabilities of beating Kerry in Croke Park this year - despite their recent record there against Kerry. Again, only time will tell.

I saw nothing in the Connaught final to suggest that Roscommon where the better team than Mayo.

I saw lots in the Munster final that suggest that Cork are a better team than Kerry.
Kerry are an ageing team with ageing legs and do not have a strong 70mins in them as we saw from the Munster final, and semi final to a certain extent.
Also they do not have the bench to supplement the starters late in the game.
The addition of T O' Shea will help but Galvin will have far less of an impact.

Jack O' Conor is a very smart manager and knows how to deploy and adjust his team during the game so that his team maximises the areas where they match-up better than the opposition
But if his opponent on the other bench can out smart him tactically I can see Kerry losing against Cork, or Mayo.

bm1993 · 25-07-2011 12:51pm

Cork will destroy Mayo. Mayo are lucky that Sheehan O'Neill and possibly Goulding are out otherwise I shudder to think what would happen. Mayo's backs with the exception of Higgins are poor and will be ruthlessly exposed in Croker. The midfield is average at best and while the half forward line is good Doherty and Freeman aren't up to championship standard. O'Connor is a serious talent but only 19. Cork are far superior in every area and Mayo's only hope is if Cork hit 30 wides. A 10 pt or less defeat would be a good result for Mayo.

Cork v Mayo All Ireland Quarter Final - Discussion

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