Are the gardai beating the sh1t out of people

Jess16 · 17-07-2011 12:19AM

davetherave wrote: »

Do you have proof that the Gardaí are actually bashing people?? That is a pretty big accusation.... :rolleyes:

If I'm to believe the Gardaí who told me, then yes -"rolleyes" indeed

deisedave · 17-07-2011 12:19AM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

That was one incedent, you can't assume its representative of them as a whole.

There was 4 of them in fairness, I know quite a few personally from outside of there profession, I feel from being in the UK quite a bit there police force is sooooo much better and way more polite:)

dresden8 · 17-07-2011 12:20AM

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/836411m-in-payouts-for-55-victims-of-donegal-garda-corruption-1456282.html

Gardai, never do anything wrong. We're all just bashers.

hondasam · 17-07-2011 12:21AM

The guards on traffic blues are lovely.

Super-Rush · 17-07-2011 12:22AM

deisedave wrote: »

There was 4 of them in fairness, I know quite a few personally from outside of there profession, I feel from being in the UK quite a bit there police force is sooooo much better and way more poliet:)

4 guards does not equate to an entire police force.

hondasam · 17-07-2011 12:23AM

deisedave wrote: »

There was 4 of them in fairness, I know quite a few personally from outside of there profession, I feel from being in the UK quite a bit there police force is sooooo much better and way more poliet:)

The UK police force have plenty of problems.

Ally Dick · 17-07-2011 12:23AM

I hope they are beating up people in custody. I thought they had gone too soft. Would be nice to hear they cared after all

Show Time · 17-07-2011 12:25AM

Tehachapi wrote: »

No, what they need is proper sentencing. If someone shows up in court with 124 previous convictions - give them 10 years mandatory, no bs suspended sentences. People criticize the USA for it's high prison population, but having lived there I can tell you there are a LOT less criminals walking the streets than here.

Won't work here as you would be going against their civil liberties and all the junk which the PC bunch use.

deisedave · 17-07-2011 12:25AM

super-rush wrote: »

4 guards does not equate to an entire police force.

Never said it did but more often than not even when your just asking a question or going up to get your passport forms sorted, they do tend to be really impolite. Even though I do find the older ones tend to be nicer, Maybe its because the young ones feel they have something to prove or something

Tehachapi · 17-07-2011 12:27AM

dresden8 wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/836411m-in-payouts-for-55-victims-of-donegal-garda-corruption-1456282.html

Gardai, never do anything wrong. We're all just bashers.

That's the problem with this country, anyone who goes against the general consensus is said to be 'bashing' them. E.g. questioning if the public sector wages are too high given our current deficit = public sector bashing. Questioning the catholic church's handling of child rape = church bashing. Questioning the behaviour of our police force = garda bashing. I guess we should all just shut up and keep our opinions to ourselves.

man.about.town · 17-07-2011 12:27AM

the reason people die in garda stations is because of the kind of people brought to garda stations are generally drug addicts and alcoholics, im amazed everyday walking through dublin at how bad the drug addicts look, most are on deaths door. if we are to be honest, its no loss to society when one dies.

AudreyHepburn · 17-07-2011 12:28AM

deisedave wrote: »

Never said it did but more often than not even when your just asking a question or going up to get your passport forms sorted, they do tend to be really impolite. Even though I do find the older ones tend to be nicer, Maybe its because the young ones feel they have something to prove or something

Gross generalisation tbh.

deisedave · 17-07-2011 12:30AM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Gross generalisation tbh.

As I said I am not saying all guards are rude, I am just saying way to many of them are and Should be called on it and appropriate action taken more often. I think they get away with things way to often;)

Super-Rush · 17-07-2011 12:30AM

deisedave wrote: »

Never said it did but more often than not even when your just asking a question or going up to get your passport forms sorted, they do tend to be really impolite. Even though I do find the older ones tend to be nicer, Maybe its because the young ones feel they have something to prove or something

You did when you said the UK police force was friendlier and more polite.

For someone who has had only one dealing with the guards you seem to have had a lot of dealings with the guards. Quit painting all guards with the one brush. We've all had bad encounters with guards, doctors, shop assistants etc but it doesn't mean that they are all like that.

deisedave · 17-07-2011 12:31AM

man.about.town wrote: »

the reason people die in garda stations is because of the kind of people brought to garda stations are generally drug addicts and alcoholics, im amazed everyday walking through dublin at how bad the drug addicts look, most are on deaths door. if we are to be honest, its no loss to society when one dies.

I know that and you know that, But say that to the drug addicts mother or family

hondasam · 17-07-2011 12:32AM

deisedave wrote: »

As I said I am not saying all guards are rude, I am just saying way to many of them are and Should be called on it and appropriate action taken more often. I think they get away with things way to often;)

They should have happy smiley faces at all times when dealing with the public.

you have a chip on your shoulder about them. move on get over it.

uk police are always polite, ya

deisedave · 17-07-2011 12:33AM

super-rush wrote: »

You did when you said the UK police force was friendlier and more polite.

For someone who has had only one dealing with the guards you seem to have had a lot of dealings with the guards. Quit painting all guards with the one brush. We've all had bad encounters with guards, doctors, shop assistants etc but it doesn't mean that they are all like that.

If I have a bad experience with a doctor or shop assistant I would change my shop or doctor, You cant do that with a guard. I would just like to see guards who want to serve the community rather than intimidate so much.

Super-Rush · 17-07-2011 12:33AM

man.about.town wrote: »

the reason people die in garda stations is because of the kind of people brought to garda stations are generally drug addicts and alcoholics, im amazed everyday walking through dublin at how bad the drug addicts look, most are on deaths door. if we are to be honest, its no loss to society when one dies.

Hold on a second there chief. Just because someone is an alcoholic or a drug addict doesn't mean they deserve to die.

Super-Rush · 17-07-2011 12:35AM

deisedave wrote: »

If I have a bad experience with a doctor or shop assistant I would change my shop or doctor, You cant do that with a guard. I would just like to see guards who want to serve the community rather than intimidate so much.

How would you know that guards are intimidating people when you've only dealth with 4?

deisedave · 17-07-2011 12:36AM

hondasam wrote: »

They should have happy smiley faces at all times when dealing with the public.

you have a chip on your shoulder about them. move on get over it.

uk police are always polite, ya

I never said the Uk police force was perfect, just feel way better than the Gardai. Just to get it out there I really have nothing against the Gardai what so ever.

AudreyHepburn · 17-07-2011 12:37AM

deisedave wrote: »

I never said the Uk police force was perfect, just feel way better than the Gardai. Just to get it out there I really have nothing against the Gardai what so ever.

Clearly you do if your posts so far are anything to go by.

7sr2z3fely84g5 · 17-07-2011 12:37AM

in fairness the guards have to put up with alot of shíte with abusive drunks,addicts,general rowdy people,arresting the usual suspects.

deisedave · 17-07-2011 12:38AM

super-rush wrote: »

How would you know that guards are intimidating people when you've only dealth with 4?

Well I live next door to the biggest night club in my city so I would see them do there job quite often, there is a different 4 guards in court at the moment for assaulting a man right outside my door in Waterford last year. I have seen some brilliant guards but alot just dont do there job properly in my opinion and I am entitled to my opinion

hondasam · 17-07-2011 12:39AM

deisedave wrote: »

I never said the Uk police force was perfect, just feel way better than the Gardai. Just to get it out there I really have nothing against the Gardai what so ever.

who are you kidding, you have done nothing but say how terrible they are.

how many uk officers did you deal with to assume they are so much better than ours.

Lady Chatterton · 17-07-2011 12:41AM

It goes without saying that there are obviously good and bad in every profession and in every walk of life. TBH, I have had very little experience or interaction with members of an Garda Siochana but on the occasions that our paths have crossed (I was injured in two separate road traffic accidents) the Gardai I met were very professional and incredibly helpful.

I remember one time when my husband was away for a weekend at a rugby match in Cardiff and during that weekend two gardai arrived at my door. I almost fainted when I answered the door to be confronted by two Gardai. I became very upset and before they could open their mouths, I said "Did he have an accident, where is he, is he dead?"... Turns out that the Gardai were in the wrong area and they were calling about about something fairly trival. They knew I got an awful shock so they insisted on making me tea

deisedave · 17-07-2011 12:42AM

MrsD007 wrote: »

It goes without saying that there are obviously good and bad in every profession and in every walk of life. TBH, I have had very little experience or interaction with members of an Garda Siochana but on the occasions that our paths have crossed (I was injured in two separate road traffic accidents) the Gardai I met were very professional and incredibly helpful.

I remember one time when my husband was away for a weekend at a rugby match in Cardiff and during that weekend two gardai arrived at my door. I almost fainted when I answered the door to be confronted by two Gardai. I became very upset and before they could open their mouths, I said "Did he have an accident, where is he, is he dead?"... Turns out that the Gardai were in the wrong area and they were calling about about something fairly trival. They knew I got an awful shock so they insisted on making me tea

See as I sad there are alot great at there job, Just the bad ones need to be weeded out.

Super-Rush · 17-07-2011 12:43AM

deisedave wrote: »

Well I live next door to the biggest night club in my city so I would see them do there job quite often, there is a different 4 guards in court at the moment for assaulting a man right outside my door in Waterford last year. I have seen some brilliant guards but alot just dont do there job properly in my opinion and I am entitled to my opinion

Your opinion is wrong. Very wrong.

Since you started posting in this thread you've gone from having no dealings with the guards to having dealt with 4 to seeing the entire citys police force in action.

deisedave · 17-07-2011 12:48AM

super-rush wrote: »

Your opinion is wrong. Very wrong.

Since you started posting in this thread you've gone from having no dealings with the guards to having dealt with 4 to seeing the entire citys police force in action.

I meant I have never been arrested, I live next to a busy night club so when I am sitting in my sitting room, (like now for example) If a fight breaks out or anything happens I can pretty much see it from my front window. You seem to want to defend the force to the last, there is good guards but way to many bad ones. Your wrong if you thing my opinion is wrong:rolleyes:

hondasam · 17-07-2011 12:49AM

deisedave wrote: »

Well I live next door to the biggest night club in my city so I would see them do there job quite often, there is a different 4 guards in court at the moment for assaulting a man right outside my door in Waterford last year. I have seen some brilliant guards but alot just dont do there job properly in my opinion and I am entitled to my opinion

you are entitled to your opinion.

have you any idea how many gardai are in this country?
how can you say alot don't do the job properly, you have no idea what their job is.

were you refused entry to AGS? is this why you have that big chip on your shoulder?

deisedave · 17-07-2011 12:53AM

hondasam wrote: »

you are entitled to your opinion.

have you any idea how many gardai are in this country?
how can you say alot don't do the job properly, you have no idea what their job is.

were you refused entry to AGS? is this why you have that big chip on your shoulder?

I am just talking from my experience obviously I cant talk for every Guard in the country, just to clarify I dont think the guards eat children or anything, I know they are normal every day people but I dont think they get held accountable enough.

Are the gardai beating the sh1t out of people

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