Race hate gang in Temple Bar orgy of violence [mod note #1]

pappyodaniel · 08-07-2011 02:52PM

If Paddy from Roscommon was living legally in the States and one night he got drunk and brutally attacked someone, would you disagree with him getting deported back to his country of origin?
I wouldn't.
And I wouldn't expect the American government to have to pay for his rehabilitation, maybe charge him in the States, put him on a plane and let him do his sentence in Castlrea.
Unfortuately that's not the way things work though.
And that gang of 'Africans' who done this should be ashamed and have really let down the majority of hard-working honest African immigrants.

Hermy · 08-07-2011 02:56PM

Burgo wrote: »

Where in Wolfe Tones quote does it say any of that?

I don't know.
I withdraw the remark.

CreepingDeath · 08-07-2011 02:59PM

RichieC wrote: »

Lets have your cards on the table here just for the sake of your argument.

You're racist aren't you?

desertcircus wrote: »

Racism: now apparently the same as its opposite. Do you have the slightest shred of evidence for your sweeping assumption that black people are more violent than white?

Yes, with good reason.

CreepingDeath wrote: »

I've seen and experienced black violence, and they were caught in front of 90 witnesses and got probation.

Forgot to mention... CC TV footage too.
By the way, this was at 9am on a weekday in Dublin city centre in the height of rush hour.

Irish scumbags are one thing, they have a right to be here.
Immigrants were granted the privilege of being let into the country and this is how they repay the favour.

Does anyone here think this situation is going to get any better ?
Be realistic here.
A load of young black people, who probably will be discriminated against for jobs. No work and lots of frustration, they're going to take their anger out on Irish people. This is going to get worse.

stovelid · 08-07-2011 03:04PM

Also nobody seems to have considered the demographic time-bomb whereby these lads will create an Irish rap genre. Beating up people is one thing but this would take the biscuit.

RMD · 08-07-2011 03:05PM

I don't want to appear as some PC pinko-liberal but all this talk of "deporting" them, technically speaking if they were born here to immigrant parents, they have just as much a right to be here as you and me, legally speaking.

Dudess · 08-07-2011 03:05PM

old_aussie wrote: »

Waiting for Dudess to come to their rescue.

Interesting. Why would I come to the rescue of a group of people who committed serious assaults? They inflicted extreme violence on others, therefore they deserve reprimand.
I don't let their colour/ethnicity influence what I think of their behaviour/character - that's simple-minded.

Wolfe Tone · 08-07-2011 03:05PM

Burgo wrote: »

Where in Wolfe Tones quote does it say any of that?

Yeah I have no idea where he got any of that from

Standard Toaster · 08-07-2011 03:08PM

Coming over here stealing our record yadda yadda!

Just utter scumbags. They'll get of lightly as usual I suspect. Annoys me how THEY pulled the race card....git ouuuuuttaaa iit!

Mahatma coat · 08-07-2011 03:08PM

Certain groups in south America hada great method of dealing with undesireables back in the eighties, maybe its time to revisit this approach;)

Hermy · 08-07-2011 03:12PM

Hermy wrote: »

I don't know.
I withdraw the remark.

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Yeah I have no idea where he got any of that from

Neither do I.:o

amacachi · 08-07-2011 03:12PM

The gang are now expected to face a huge number of charges, including multiple serious assault charges, violent disorder, theft and production of an offensive weapon.

So stamping on someone's head isn't attempted murder now? Good to know.

Fratton Fred · 08-07-2011 03:13PM

stovelid wrote: »

Also nobody seems to have considered the demographic time-bomb whereby these lads will create an Irish rap genre. Beating up people is one thing but this would take the biscuit.

It can't be any worse than the indigenous rap surely.

beagle001 · 08-07-2011 03:14PM

Just take a look at a city like Brussels or the suburbs of Paris the people are afraid to go into these areas as a result of African and Nth African street gangs.
Centre of Brussels is a very dangerous place on a night out and the locals are petrified of the African gangs that roam the streets,knife violence is huge.
It's a disgrace how they have let them take it over and if we do not do something here fast it will be just like that a complete dump .
Pc brigade need to be disbanded and a tough regime brought in for all offenders not just immigrants,but immigrants caught creating violence should have all their families social welfare stopped,see how long it would take for them to reform then.

dlofnep · 08-07-2011 03:14PM

Killer Wench wrote: »

Deport them all? Even if they are all Irish citizens? I do think it is fascinating that the terms "African" and "Irish" were used.

Yes, even if they are Irish citizens. If they can't adhere to the law, then they do not deserve citizenship. It is a privilege, not a right.

du Maurier · 08-07-2011 03:17PM

"We believe that what happened on the night was motivated by racism -- that is racism against white people.

:pac:

An important nugget of corroboration there!

amacachi · 08-07-2011 03:18PM

dlofnep wrote: »

Yes, even if they are Irish citizens. If they can't adhere to the law, then they do not deserve citizenship. It is a privilege, not a right.

Same apply to the lads in Portlaois yeah?

Fcuk it, let's put anyone ever convicted of anything on a boat to somewhere. Maybe Australia or something.

tbh · 08-07-2011 03:21PM

CreepingDeath wrote: »

What do you base that on ? ( Apart from a naive idea of equality )
It's inherently racist to think that everyone is equal in every way.

Africa is far from civilised, and some of these immigrants grew up in seriously messed up cultures and areas.

what the hell are you talking about? "Africa" is far from civilised?! Do you know how big Africa is? Have you any clue about how many people live there?
You'd be better off actually doing a bit of travelling, experiencing different cultures and coming up with your own informed opinion instead of just blindly swallowing the crap you read in tabloids.

amacachi · 08-07-2011 03:22PM

This is actually a case where I'd like to see America's ridiculous interpretation of laws being applied. I remember someone was convicted of assault with a deadly weapon. The deadly weapon was the shoe they were wearing. :pac:

gbee · 08-07-2011 03:22PM

amacachi wrote: »

Maybe Australia or something.

They know the difference between right n wrong in that country now, we need someplace innocent and sweet.

tallaghtmick · 08-07-2011 03:23PM

A lot of people are throwing the racist card at some comments on here,let me put it this way if you get on a bus and one side is all white and the other is all black you are gonna sit on the white side does that make you racist?

Morlar · 08-07-2011 03:25PM

desertcircus wrote: »

Racism: now apparently the same as its opposite. Do you have the slightest shred of evidence for your sweeping assumption that black people are more violent than white?

I would point to crime statistics. Up till about a year ago Ireland had approx 1/3 non national prison population, that would be up from roughly 0% about 20 yrs ago. In the UK and USA black people are, over the course of decade after decade, consistently far more heavily represented in prison populations per head of population.

Wolfe Tone · 08-07-2011 03:26PM

tallaghtmick wrote: »

A lot of people are throwing the racist card at some comments on here,let me put it this way if you get on a bus and one side is all white and the other is all black you are gonna sit on the white side does that make you racist?

I'd stand pretending to be sending text massages the whole way

RichieC · 08-07-2011 03:27PM

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Yes, with good reason.

there's good reasons to be racist?

CreepingDeath wrote: »

A load of young black people, who probably will be discriminated against for jobs. No work and lots of frustration, they're going to take their anger out on Irish people. This is going to get worse.

it is illegal to discriminate on the grounds of age, sex, race, disability and sexual orientation in Ireland.

dlofnep · 08-07-2011 03:27PM

amacachi wrote: »

Same apply to the lads in Portlaois yeah?

Fcuk it, let's put anyone ever convicted of anything on a boat to somewhere. Maybe Australia or something.

Here's the thing - I'm all for immigration into Ireland. I unlike many like the diversity it brings to our cities. But what I will not tolerate is someone coming to Ireland, to engage in gang activity and hate crimes against the local population. Do that - and you lose any privilege you ever had of being here.

amacachi · 08-07-2011 03:30PM

dlofnep wrote: »

Here's the thing - I'm all for immigration into Ireland. I unlike many like the diversity it brings to our cities. But what I will not tolerate is someone coming to Ireland, to engage in gang activity and hate crimes against the local population. Do that - and you lose any privilege you ever had of being here.

So someone comes here at one day old and they don't have the same rights as if they'd been born here?

Gillington · 08-07-2011 03:31PM

Rodney Large Donut wrote: »

These attacks are common knowledge to those of us who are working around the Templebar area.

In fact around the time of the incident being reported here there were threads posted in relation to attacks and muggings by black African youths in the Templebar area which were promptly locked and/or deleted.

But!.

Yes there's a but, Templebar can be a violent area and in particular along the quays were there is a scarce Garda presence - (read non-existant) and attacks are carried out by lots of other gangs apart from the Africans.. Try hanging around Westmoreland Street & Aston Quay bus stops for a night and see the craic!... Its sickening.

But African gangs aren't the worse around that area, I'd be more weiry of the Bally'er, Tallaght & Blanch scumbags hanging around their bus stops and outside the Spar's and Centra's which do a roaring off licence sale in the area.

Mind the East European gangs too, vicious bastards altogether.

Not going to Temple Bar for a while so!

desertcircus · 08-07-2011 03:32PM

CreepingDeath wrote: »

RichieC wrote: »

Lets have your cards on the table here just for the sake of your argument.

You're racist aren't you?

desertcircus wrote: »

Racism: now apparently the same as its opposite. Do you have the slightest shred of evidence for your sweeping assumption that black people are more violent than white?

Yes, with good reason.

CreepingDeath wrote: »

I've seen and experienced black violence, and they were caught in front of 90 witnesses and got probation.

Forgot to mention... CC TV footage too.
By the way, this was at 9am on a weekday in Dublin city centre in the height of rush hour.

Irish scumbags are one thing, they have a right to be here.
Immigrants were granted the privilege of being let into the country and this is how they repay the favour.

Does anyone here think this situation is going to get any better ?
Be realistic here.
A load of young black people, who probably will be discriminated against for jobs. No work and lots of frustration, they're going to take their anger out on Irish people. This is going to get worse.

What you have there is evidence that someone black did something violent. Nothing whatsoever about trends or how they compare between different ethnicities. Nothing to justify racism.

careca11 · 08-07-2011 03:32PM

charlemont wrote: »

These people are just scumbags, No matter what colour they are, I reckon they were on something strong.

on drugs/drink or not , thats not a good enough excuse to beat the ****e out of some incident people.

get these fcuk's on the next plane out of here ......................putting them in mountjoy is to good for them

strobe · 08-07-2011 03:32PM

dlofnep wrote: »

Yes, even if they are Irish citizens. If they can't adhere to the law, then they do not deserve citizenship. It is a privilege, not a right.

Drop me a PM if this ever becomes government policy please. Flights are expensive and there is a chap living down the road from me that could do with a box on the chops.

K-9 · 08-07-2011 03:34PM

amacachi wrote: »

This is actually a case where I'd like to see America's ridiculous interpretation of laws being applied. I remember someone was convicted of assault with a deadly weapon. The deadly weapon was the shoe they were wearing. :pac:

Probably treat it as manslaughter at best here.

Race hate gang in Temple Bar orgy of violence [mod note #1]

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