Advertisement
Help Keep Boards Alive. Support us by going ad free today. See here: https://subscriptions.boards.ie/.
https://www.boards.ie/group/1878-subscribers-forum

Private Group for paid up members of Boards.ie. Join the club.
Hi all, please see this major site announcement: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058427594/boards-ie-2026

First Time Tribe Encounter with Civilized Man [Real or Fake?]

2»

Comments

  • #32
    Seachmall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    red menace wrote: »
    Can help but feel that tribe would be 1000 times better off if they were left alone

    What? You can't have a functional society without taxation and regulation, they're lucky we found them when we did otherwise they'll end up killing each other whilst high on drugs when they should be working 9-to-5s and going to church!


  • #33
    opinion guy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,000 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    red menace wrote: »
    Can help but feel that tribe would be 1000 times better off if they were left alone

    As I said earlier - the kids all have kwashiorkor - a malnutrition disease.

    But I expect they are all happy in their malnourished subsistence existence:rolleyes:


  • #34
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Someone uploaded the full original video to youtube



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNQo8GAqILM&feature=channel_video_title
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDvhVItiBFs&feature=relmfu
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXjIrYwmTUc&feature=relmfu
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyeq9-cJoJA&feature=relmfu
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz0XS4VlgJQ&feature=relmfu


  • #35
    Pace2008
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    policarp wrote: »
    They have clothes which would mean the Spanish were there first.
    I hope that's some sort of joke.


  • #36
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    There's people in Mullingar that have never seen civilized man ffs.


  • Advertisement
  • #37
    DexyDrain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 254 ✭✭DexyDrain


    People would have seen their reflection in still water, pots and puddles etc. The reaction is probably a nervousness over what the object/mirror may do rather than what it is doing.

    I think the Wharfian Hypothesis is well and truly on its last legs, even non-verbal persons with autism have a rich conceptual mind that retains its distinct cognitive style even after language is acquired in many cases.

    Personally I think it's either fake or misrepresented.


  • #38
    Duckworth_Luas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,746 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    There's people in Mullingar that have never seen civilized man ffs.
    When did these people move to Westmeath from Dublin?


  • #39
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,589 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Seachmall wrote: »
    Basic counting is apparently innate even without an understanding of words or numbers.
    Pigeons and other birds can count. And IIRC they are better than students at counting the number of objects shown in flash cards.

    https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Bird_intelligence


  • #40
    dubtom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,084 ✭✭✭dubtom


    opinion guy wrote: »
    As I said earlier - the kids all have kwashiorkor - a malnutrition disease.

    But I expect they are all happy in their malnourished subsistence existence:rolleyes:

    I call bull, can we assume that they have lived as that guy 'found' them for thousands of years and in that time overcame malnutrition and worse without any help from us Civilized folk. I'd hazard a guess that some nice whitey purchased their land for 6 bags of rice and a slab of beer and it's now a tesco car park or some other essential infrastructure that they can't live without.:rolleyes:


  • #41
    [Jackass]
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,192 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    I'm not sure how exactly the OP suggests that this could be faked, but finding and meeting tribes that are in such remote areas to have never experienced outside human contact before is very well documented on several occassions.

    Soth America and Asia's vast dense landscape and rainforests mean that civilizations are perminantly cut off from society when ventured in too deep.

    This is quite a famous image of a tribe that was discovered by satelite photo and a search plain went to photograph it (in Brazil I believe).

    The tribesmen, unaware of what a plane is, tried to shoot it down with arrows.

    y172954236651842.jpg

    There are also charity organisations out there to protect rainforest land that is home to tribes unconntacted by the developed world who are being found by loggers etc.

    http://www.survivalinternational.org/tribes/isolatedperu


  • Advertisement
  • #42
    El_Dangeroso
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭El_Dangeroso


    opinion guy wrote: »
    As I said earlier - the kids all have kwashiorkor - a malnutrition disease.

    But I expect they are all happy in their malnourished subsistence existence:rolleyes:

    I doubt it's kwashikor, protein is plentiful in PNG, rare to find a protein deficiency in hunter gatherer tribes because they eat such a variety of protein sources such as insects and grubs.

    It's probably parasites.

    In any case contact with the western world doesn't usually work out well for these types of tribes, they usually suffer the ravages of communicable diseases that they haven't had prior exposure to before they experience any benefit like reduced childhood mortality.


  • #43
    Cathaoirleach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 701 ✭✭✭Cathaoirleach


    It's not fake. :rolleyes: Encounters like these are well documented.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncontacted_peoples

    Here another recent one

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16fvTonR_gA


  • #44
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    [Jackass] wrote: »
    I'm not sure how exactly the OP suggests that this could be faked
    Cathaoirleach wrote: »
    It's not fake. :rolleyes: Encounters like these are well documented.

    Yes it's because of encounters like this being documented that French anthropologists believe this footage to be faked. Did you check out the links in my original post?


  • #45
    Sir Gallagher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭Sir Gallagher


    Anybody interested in this or remembers the show; Mark and Olly:Living with the tribes should check out this documentary. It follows Bruce Parry who goes and lives with the Kombai tribe in PNG. It's as entertaining as it is fascinating.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDu0z_3NvI


  • #46
    Pompey Magnus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Didnt know you were an intrepid explorer in your spare time keith!

    To be fair he just said he had many encounters like this, he didn't actually specify whether he was the equivalent of the primitive native or the explorer and given the very tribal nature of parts of his community I am assuming he may fall into the former category :pac:.


Advertisement
Advertisement