If ireland had 24 hour bars

NotSoSeriously wrote: »

Everywhere wouldn't have to close at the "normal" time. Normal time only exists now because of the laws. The whole business model landscape would change under 24 hour licensing freedom. That's a whole different story though, and something which would probably get our government's friends and family sweating in their diamond and shíte encrusted plastic leather pants.

Anyway, even if everyone was thrown out at the same time, and people had a choice to go somewhere else for a late drink, it would obviously not cause the same problems as before because people would be happy no matter what ... as in they are choosing to go home or choosing to stay out, not being forced to get a cab or freeze to death or sleep on the streets.

My point is that by and large it wouldn’t change the way most pubs operate. True they could stay open 24 hours but they wouldn’t and they also would all probably shut at around the same time as they always have because that’s the way they’ve always done it and because if they shut at slightly different times you would get people leaving one pub to get last orders in at another so the publicans would all stop at the same time. Some pubs will take up the 24 hours on certain busy nights like Friday or Saturday night but I don’t think you would find many that will be open at 5:30 AM on a Tuesday.

If it was introduced this is probably what would happen in most towns Ireland.

7:00PM people go out to their local pubs.

1:00AM most of the pubs close up except for O’Whatyeamocallsits witch stays open till 5 on the weekend (Fri & Sat) some people go on to the late pub others go home.

5:00AM O’Whatyeamocallsits closes.

Not much would really change except maybe in the larger cities with the numbers of people in them needed to make having a place open at alternative hours viable.

NotSoSeriously wrote: »

We're not talking 4 or 5 extra hours in the pub here, we're talking unlimited, infinite 24/7 hours in the pub. We will definitely either die of alcohol poisoning or spend our life savings on booze. Take your pick. We are nothing but the children of our drunken booze masters.

How the fcuk would that be any different from now? :pac:

One of the problems with 24 hour drinking laws in Ireland would be suburban pubs, especially in residential areas. We have one pub in our vicinity and since it opened the Sunday night's are bad. I am a heavy sleeper so it doesn't really bother me but for anyone who would be a light sleeper it would be bad. At least it dies down at two or three but if it were 24 hour, mother of jaysus.

Now I think on Friday nights and Saturday nights in the city/town centres there should be no closing laws per se. Pubs/clubs should have to present a case to the District Court for the licence extension, with conditions but it should be made easier for publicians and club owners to obtain it. The duty of care to run an orderly house should be retained through the usual court bond. It is ridiculous to put 20,000 out on the street simultaneously in say Dublin. The majority of self regulate and you would not have this post-apocalyptic vision people dream up when they hear of 24 hour drinking. In England most pubs close up at the regular hours because it simply does not pay to keep zombies on the premises, incapable of buying or consuming any more alcohol.

I live in a city with 24-hour drinking, but to be honest most ordinary pubs don't do it. I have found that the average pub seems to close anywhere between half 10 and half 11. It tends to be mainly clubs that stay open although I have seen a couple of pubs that stay open til 4am on weekend nights. One late bar I used to go to would basically stay open as long as there were enough people, if it was quiet he would close - and it was probably the most relaxed bar in that particular area.

Early closing pubs don't seem to be so much of a problem for people, because you can easily buy booze at any time of night in shops/off-licenses. This removes the last minute drunken panic of people frantically trying to throw pints into themselves and allows everyone to bring drink home should they want to continue drinking.

What also helps disperse the drunken madness on the streets at various closing times is the easy availability of regular 24 hour public transport. No waiting for hours in the taxi queue, people getting stranded. There are also loads of places you can get late night food, coffee etc - not just chippers, so it doesn't feel like the entire world is crammed into one McDonalds. Certain areas of the city have very few pubs, but would have 24 hour cafes and restuarants that people seem to hang out in all night instead of the pub.

Can't see it being a problem, especially with more and more people doing shift/night work, their morning is normal Joe's evening..

Whatever about 24/7 pubs ending the mayhem that is the reality of our streets most nights, it would probably help to boost tourism. I imagine a lot of people are put off coming to Ireland on their holliers when they hear that they have to go home so early. We're being thrown out onto the street when things are only just getting started in Madrid. And they're an hour ahead.

CNN's travel site had an article recently about Dublin and one of the things it warned about was the early closing times.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/06/10/dont.do.in.dublin.matador/

It would probably cut down on binge drinking.

When I lived in places with 24 hour bars, we would head out late and drink at a leisurely pace as opposed to drinking large amounts in the short time given.

It would also cut down on anti social behaviour in my opinion as large groups of people would not leave a venue all at once.

I hope it comes in soon it probably wont but any time I have been in 24 hr places everyone drinks more casually there not fighting the clock and its peoples choice when to go home which results in a more staggered approach to people leaving and most people would leave between 2.30 and 4.30.

I don't think it would really apply to the rural pub but i think the choice should be available when renewing their licences